Unpopular Opinions

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care when people have their kids.

Just don’t cry to me about how poor you are when it comes time to pay for daycare or college. I can’t stand when people do that.

It’s not like it’s some unknown quantity. We all know how much these things cost. A responsible person would wait until they know they can afford it (daycare) and save from day 1 or even before (for college).

Oh, so you think just because someone knows how much something costs ahead of time they’ll be able to save enough money for it?!? Are you high?

Then don’t have kids. Or don’t have more than one.

More than that though, just stop whining about it. Plan ahead.

I think college is way too expensive right now. I have felt that way for many years and I don’t see my feelings changing.

It is what it is. Adjust your expectations to reality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids are a luxury in modern America

This is an unpopular reality, not opinion.

Poor people deserve to have sex just as much as rich people. I didn’t want to be that blunt but I’ll say it.

We’re not living in 1900.

Get some bc. There are forms that are 99.9% effective.

And before you start, I am as pro choice and pro sex Ed as they come. Free Iuds or Depp shots for all.

Omg THIS

There is no excuse for an unwanted pregnancy and a childhood spent mired in poverty in this day and age. For gods sake. When did we through personal responsibility and accountability out the window?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are a luxury in modern America

This is an unpopular reality, not opinion.

Poor people deserve to have sex just as much as rich people. I didn’t want to be that blunt but I’ll say it.

We’re not living in 1900.

Get some bc. There are forms that are 99.9% effective.

And before you start, I am as pro choice and pro sex Ed as they come. Free Iuds or Depp shots for all.

Omg THIS

There is no excuse for an unwanted pregnancy and a childhood spent mired in poverty in this day and age. For gods sake. When did we through personal responsibility and accountability out the window?

What are you talking about?
Most kids/pregnancies are planned. I do not think that a DINK can talk about responsibility to parents

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are a luxury in modern America

This is an unpopular reality, not opinion.

Poor people deserve to have sex just as much as rich people. I didn’t want to be that blunt but I’ll say it.

We’re not living in 1900.

Get some bc. There are forms that are 99.9% effective.

And before you start, I am as pro choice and pro sex Ed as they come. Free Iuds or Depp shots for all.

Omg THIS

There is no excuse for an unwanted pregnancy and a childhood spent mired in poverty in this day and age. For gods sake. When did we through personal responsibility and accountability out the window?

What are you talking about?
Most kids/pregnancies are planned. I do not think that a DINK can talk about responsibility to parents

Do you think 19 year old mothers “planned” their pregnancies?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you can't afford kids you shouldn't have them.

But my definition of “affording kids” differs from yours.

NP. I agree with the first poster. If you can't afford food, shelter, clothing and love for your children, you shouldn't be having them.

Disagree.

The average age of a woman having her first baby is 26. Twenty-six year olds, in general, don’t make jack. Their incomes will only climb.

LOL. The average avg used to be about 17, and the fact that women are most fertile at those ages hasn’t changed. Not saying I would have a kid at 17. I guess you think that people who make under $220k shouldn’t have kids. Again, my definition of affording kids differs from yours.

I bet the average age in DC is more like 35.

If people only had kids when they were ready, financially or otherwise, to have kids, there would be no kids.

Wow, what a classic "the entirety of DC is my upper NW bubble" comment. See you at Millie's, PP!

Never heard of millies. And turns out I was off by five years. In 2017, the mean age of women in dc having their first baby was 30, which was the oldest in the country. DC also has the most kids born to mothers at least 35 years old.

You should maybe learn what you’re talking about before jumping down people’s throats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are a luxury in modern America

This is an unpopular reality, not opinion.

Poor people deserve to have sex just as much as rich people. I didn’t want to be that blunt but I’ll say it.

We’re not living in 1900.

Get some bc. There are forms that are 99.9% effective.

And before you start, I am as pro choice and pro sex Ed as they come. Free Iuds or Depp shots for all.

Omg THIS

There is no excuse for an unwanted pregnancy and a childhood spent mired in poverty in this day and age. For gods sake. When did we through personal responsibility and accountability out the window?

What are you talking about?
Most kids/pregnancies are planned. I do not think that a DINK can talk about responsibility to parents

Do you think 19 year old mothers “planned” their pregnancies?

Yes and I know several that did
Some had older spouses, most married after the event.
One was an idiot, another brought up religious and super strict so getting married is how she got out of home.

Some more knew what they were doing and planned the baby by themselves, one planned kid with spouse. He was much older and I think he pressured her

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are a luxury in modern America

This is an unpopular reality, not opinion.

Poor people deserve to have sex just as much as rich people. I didn’t want to be that blunt but I’ll say it.

We’re not living in 1900.

Get some bc. There are forms that are 99.9% effective.

And before you start, I am as pro choice and pro sex Ed as they come. Free Iuds or Depp shots for all.

Omg THIS

There is no excuse for an unwanted pregnancy and a childhood spent mired in poverty in this day and age. For gods sake. When did we through personal responsibility and accountability out the window?

What are you talking about?
Most kids/pregnancies are planned. I do not think that a DINK can talk about responsibility to parents

LOL more like what are YOU talking about. Over 50% of pregnancies in the US are unplanned. Google it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are a luxury in modern America

This is an unpopular reality, not opinion.

Poor people deserve to have sex just as much as rich people. I didn’t want to be that blunt but I’ll say it.

We’re not living in 1900.

Get some bc. There are forms that are 99.9% effective.

And before you start, I am as pro choice and pro sex Ed as they come. Free Iuds or Depp shots for all.

Omg THIS

There is no excuse for an unwanted pregnancy and a childhood spent mired in poverty in this day and age. For gods sake. When did we through personal responsibility and accountability out the window?

The folks on welfare are the ones doing the jobs you don’t want to do. We call them essential workers!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Compound interest although great on paper is not as valuable as the fun you could have had with it when you were younger.

I regret saving small amounts in my early/mid 20s. The fun you can have with small amounts of money when you are young significantly exceeds it when you are older. I’m in my mid 40s, yeah maybe I have a few hundred thousand more now because I saved in my early 20s but spending that money would have brought more pleasure.

Now I see my parents who just turned 80, they don’t really spend much anymore. Wealth is wasted on the old, it should be the young that have money but the world doesn’t work that way.

So much truth to this that I unfortunately realized much too late. I worked and saved during HS and saved a lot during college as well. I'm almost 40 and I have a lot of money saved but with little kids I don't really have the time to do anything with the money nor do my friends who also have little kids have time to do anything either. I should have gone on spring break or used my money to do a study abroad or gone out more and had more fun. I'm trying to learn from my mistake though and pre-covid DW and I would try to get away for one week each year and go someplace nice.

Agreed, I never did study abroad because of the cost. Also missed a spring break because I was too cheap. I’ve realized my mistakes and try to strike a better balance now. Spending definitely brings more joy when younger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That the best possible investment people with money in this country could make is a robust social safety net (some form of UI, unemployment benefits, universal healthcare, subsidized childcare, housing for the homeless, and subsidized or free education and job training), paid for via higher taxes.

You can donate your own money to those causes. Or move to Europe.

Ahh. And let me guess where you fall on the socio-economic spectrum? Im betting somewhere along the lines that you could easily afford to invest in these things, find every tax loophole you can to avoid it, and think that the larger society in which you live isn't your responsibility to help maintain? Oh, and probably that you are smarter and more deserving of your wealth just be virtue of the fact that you have it?

Different poster here, but it's not just by virtue of the fact that I have wealth. I worked for it. I came from a dirt poor family. Took out loans, went to Ivy League schools, worked hard to build a business. It's my money and I don't have to give it to the government. I choose my own charities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care when people have their kids.

Just don’t cry to me about how poor you are when it comes time to pay for daycare or college. I can’t stand when people do that.

It’s not like it’s some unknown quantity. We all know how much these things cost. A responsible person would wait until they know they can afford it (daycare) and save from day 1 or even before (for college).

Oh, so you think just because someone knows how much something costs ahead of time they’ll be able to save enough money for it?!? Are you high?

Then don’t have kids. Or don’t have more than one.

More than that though, just stop whining about it. Plan ahead.

I think college is way too expensive right now. I have felt that way for many years and I don’t see my feelings changing.

It is what it is. Adjust your expectations to reality.

But it’s an absurd reality, so it’s fine to complain about it. The cost of childcare and college rise at a rate independent of any other factor. The amount college costs should be a concern to everyone. The amount of debt incurred effects all industries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That the best possible investment people with money in this country could make is a robust social safety net (some form of UI, unemployment benefits, universal healthcare, subsidized childcare, housing for the homeless, and subsidized or free education and job training), paid for via higher taxes.

You can donate your own money to those causes. Or move to Europe.

Ahh. And let me guess where you fall on the socio-economic spectrum? Im betting somewhere along the lines that you could easily afford to invest in these things, find every tax loophole you can to avoid it, and think that the larger society in which you live isn't your responsibility to help maintain? Oh, and probably that you are smarter and more deserving of your wealth just be virtue of the fact that you have it?

Different poster here, but it's not just by virtue of the fact that I have wealth. I worked for it. I came from a dirt poor family. Took out loans, went to Ivy League schools, worked hard to build a business. It's my money and I don't have to give it to the government. I choose my own charities.

Dirt poor family huh? Was your family on Section 8? Food stamps? Medicaid? Who do you think pays for all of that, including WIC? The milk fairy? It’s the federal government. You presumably went to public school. Who pays for that? Your teachers were no doubt educated in public schools. You got loans to go to a private college. Who subsidized those loans? You no doubt use the Internet to build your business. Who created that? DARPA. You drive on a federally built interstate system. You put your money in FDIC-backed banks, which contributes to the faith in the banking system.

Would you have built the same life you have now if you had been born in a cave in Afghanistan? No. You were born into a country and system that - along with your hard work - allowed it. Be grateful and realize that those who came before you paid their taxes (more than you, even) and allowed this system to flourish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That the best possible investment people with money in this country could make is a robust social safety net (some form of UI, unemployment benefits, universal healthcare, subsidized childcare, housing for the homeless, and subsidized or free education and job training), paid for via higher taxes.

You can donate your own money to those causes. Or move to Europe.

Ahh. And let me guess where you fall on the socio-economic spectrum? Im betting somewhere along the lines that you could easily afford to invest in these things, find every tax loophole you can to avoid it, and think that the larger society in which you live isn't your responsibility to help maintain? Oh, and probably that you are smarter and more deserving of your wealth just be virtue of the fact that you have it?

Different poster here, but it's not just by virtue of the fact that I have wealth. I worked for it. I came from a dirt poor family. Took out loans, went to Ivy League schools, worked hard to build a business. It's my money and I don't have to give it to the government. I choose my own charities.

Dirt poor family huh? Was your family on Section 8? Food stamps? Medicaid? Who do you think pays for all of that, including WIC? The milk fairy? It’s the federal government. You presumably went to public school. Who pays for that? Your teachers were no doubt educated in public schools. You got loans to go to a private college. Who subsidized those loans? You no doubt use the Internet to build your business. Who created that? DARPA. You drive on a federally built interstate system. You put your money in FDIC-backed banks, which contributes to the faith in the banking system.

Would you have built the same life you have now if you had been born in a cave in Afghanistan? No. You were born into a country and system that - along with your hard work - allowed it. Be grateful and realize that those who came before you paid their taxes (more than you, even) and allowed this system to flourish.

Oh grow up
Nobody needs to feel grateful for being in this time of history.
Taxes should and do go to roads, schools, fire department, police, military, city parks, state forests, elder care, Medicaid, bus and railroad systems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If you can't afford kids you shouldn't have them.

But my definition of “affording kids” differs from yours.

NP. I agree with the first poster. If you can't afford food, shelter, clothing and love for your children, you shouldn't be having them.

Disagree.

The average age of a woman having her first baby is 26. Twenty-six year olds, in general, don’t make jack. Their incomes will only climb.

LOL. The average avg used to be about 17, and the fact that women are most fertile at those ages hasn’t changed. Not saying I would have a kid at 17. I guess you think that people who make under $220k shouldn’t have kids. Again, my definition of affording kids differs from yours.

I bet the average age in DC is more like 35.

If people only had kids when they were ready, financially or otherwise, to have kids, there would be no kids.

You were off by 5 years - nearly 15% - and *I'm* the one

Wow, what a classic "the entirety of DC is my upper NW bubble" comment. See you at Millie's, PP!

Never heard of millies. And turns out I was off by five years. In 2017, the mean age of women in dc having their first baby was 30, which was the oldest in the country. DC also has the most kids born to mothers at least 35 years old.

You should maybe learn what you’re talking about before jumping down people’s throats.

You were off by 5 years - nearly 15% - and *I'm* the one who needs to learn what I'm talking about? GOt it.

Do you work at the White House? That's Trump-style thinking on perfect display.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That the best possible investment people with money in this country could make is a robust social safety net (some form of UI, unemployment benefits, universal healthcare, subsidized childcare, housing for the homeless, and subsidized or free education and job training), paid for via higher taxes.

You can donate your own money to those causes. Or move to Europe.

Ahh. And let me guess where you fall on the socio-economic spectrum? Im betting somewhere along the lines that you could easily afford to invest in these things, find every tax loophole you can to avoid it, and think that the larger society in which you live isn't your responsibility to help maintain? Oh, and probably that you are smarter and more deserving of your wealth just be virtue of the fact that you have it?

Different poster here, but it's not just by virtue of the fact that I have wealth. I worked for it. I came from a dirt poor family. Took out loans, went to Ivy League schools, worked hard to build a business. It's my money and I don't have to give it to the government. I choose my own charities.

Dirt poor family huh? Was your family on Section 8? Food stamps? Medicaid? Who do you think pays for all of that, including WIC? The milk fairy? It’s the federal government. You presumably went to public school. Who pays for that? Your teachers were no doubt educated in public schools. You got loans to go to a private college. Who subsidized those loans? You no doubt use the Internet to build your business. Who created that? DARPA. You drive on a federally built interstate system. You put your money in FDIC-backed banks, which contributes to the faith in the banking system.

Would you have built the same life you have now if you had been born in a cave in Afghanistan? No. You were born into a country and system that - along with your hard work - allowed it. Be grateful and realize that those who came before you paid their taxes (more than you, even) and allowed this system to flourish.

Oh grow up
Nobody needs to feel grateful for being in this time of history.
Taxes should and do go to roads, schools, fire department, police, military, city parks, state forests, elder care, Medicaid, bus and railroad systems.

Um that was the point. These quasi-libertarians think they’ve done it all themselves and therefore don’t need to pay taxes. The system provides a framework to make it, and they need to pay taxes that allows the framework to exist.