Anyone have the list of colleges TJ's class of 2019 is headed to?

[Anonymous]

I wonder if the decline in TJHSST students actually choosing to attend UVa was a factor in Admissions' return to the ED option this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because you asked and Naviance 2019 loaded:

Don’t flame if my math is wrong somewhere. I did it on the back of a sheet of paper.

In state applied/ accepted/ attending:
UVA: 333/152/53. (48% admit rate and In line with prior years)
WM: 189/153/40 (80% admit rate and in line with prior years)
VT: 99/71/21 (the huge surprise. Normally 200-250 kids apply. But only low 20s attend each year. So their attend number stayed stable).

Also:

GMU 17
VCU. 9 (their guaranteed admit med school program is popular at TJ)

So: 114 to UVA/WM/VT and 142 in state (although I didn’t pull every state school, no one to CNU)

Pitt: 116/113/25. Making it the 3rd most popular school and this the first year more kids applied to Pitt than VT and more kids attend Pitt than VT. They give amazing merit aid to TJ kids, the counselors love them, and rolling admissions).

39 to Ivys:
Cornell topping the list at 15 (it’s always high, b/c engineering)
8 to Harvard
5 to Yale
4 to Princeton
2 to Columbia
1 to Dartmouth
0 to Brown

29 to Almost Ivy’s:
8 to MIT
1 to Cal Tech
12 to Chicago, out of 15 accepted (!!!— that’s a huge number for a non-engineering/CS school)
4 each to Stanford and Duke


75 to the T10 Engineering schools not already listed:
17 to Michigan
6 to GT
10 to Berkeley
15 to CMU
13 to UI-CU
10 to Purdue
4 to UT Austin

14 total to the other T20 National Us not already listed put together, with 1-2 per school, except 3 to UCLA and 4 to WashU

2 to Williams. I didn’t pullall of the top SLACs, but kids were admitted to, but are not attending Amherst, Swarthmore, and Davidson.

Other places I spot checked b/c I know kids going: Grinnell (1), Kenyon (1), CWRU (3), Ohio State (2), Penn State (6)

So that’s 339 of the 425. The rest are likely to be 1-2 students each to T50 schools, a few SLACs, and T10-T20 engineering. Probably at least 10-12 at other UCs combined, although I didn’t pull each one.

Make of it what you will. I’m shocked that VT went from 243 apps in 2018 to 99 in 2019. And had fewer students enroll than Pitt for the first time. And had fewer students apply than Pitt, Michigan or GT. Especially in a year when VT overenrolled. What I’m hearing (based on a sample size of about 4) is that kids aren’t filling out the Coalition app and writing the extra essays unless they really want VT. They are using Pitt as their safety instead.

Anyway, looks like a great year to me. But, have at it.

The acceptance rate to UVA has historically been over 60%. The below 50% is a shocker.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because you asked and Naviance 2019 loaded:

Don’t flame if my math is wrong somewhere. I did it on the back of a sheet of paper.

In state applied/ accepted/ attending:
UVA: 333/152/53. (48% admit rate and In line with prior years)
WM: 189/153/40 (80% admit rate and in line with prior years)
VT: 99/71/21 (the huge surprise. Normally 200-250 kids apply. But only low 20s attend each year. So their attend number stayed stable).

Also:

GMU 17
VCU. 9 (their guaranteed admit med school program is popular at TJ)

So: 114 to UVA/WM/VT and 142 in state (although I didn’t pull every state school, no one to CNU)

Pitt: 116/113/25. Making it the 3rd most popular school and this the first year more kids applied to Pitt than VT and more kids attend Pitt than VT. They give amazing merit aid to TJ kids, the counselors love them, and rolling admissions).

39 to Ivys:
Cornell topping the list at 15 (it’s always high, b/c engineering)
8 to Harvard
5 to Yale
4 to Princeton
2 to Columbia
1 to Dartmouth
0 to Brown

29 to Almost Ivy’s:
8 to MIT
1 to Cal Tech
12 to Chicago, out of 15 accepted (!!!— that’s a huge number for a non-engineering/CS school)
4 each to Stanford and Duke


75 to the T10 Engineering schools not already listed:
17 to Michigan
6 to GT
10 to Berkeley
15 to CMU
13 to UI-CU
10 to Purdue
4 to UT Austin

14 total to the other T20 National Us not already listed put together, with 1-2 per school, except 3 to UCLA and 4 to WashU

2 to Williams. I didn’t pullall of the top SLACs, but kids were admitted to, but are not attending Amherst, Swarthmore, and Davidson.

Other places I spot checked b/c I know kids going: Grinnell (1), Kenyon (1), CWRU (3), Ohio State (2), Penn State (6)

So that’s 339 of the 425. The rest are likely to be 1-2 students each to T50 schools, a few SLACs, and T10-T20 engineering. Probably at least 10-12 at other UCs combined, although I didn’t pull each one.

Make of it what you will. I’m shocked that VT went from 243 apps in 2018 to 99 in 2019. And had fewer students enroll than Pitt for the first time. And had fewer students apply than Pitt, Michigan or GT. Especially in a year when VT overenrolled. What I’m hearing (based on a sample size of about 4) is that kids aren’t filling out the Coalition app and writing the extra essays unless they really want VT. They are using Pitt as their safety instead.

Anyway, looks like a great year to me. But, have at it.

,

The acceptance rate to UVA has historically been over 60%. The below 50% is a shocker.

Not quite. 56% when rounded to the nearest whole number in 2017 and 2018. But they had fewer kids apply this year (333 vs 349 in 2018) and many fewer kids accept (53 vs 83).

Meanwhile, WM had lower applications in 2018 (168) and fewer kids accept (27), but the 2019 numbers are almost identical to the 2017. It’s hard to see a trend with only 3 years of the data broken down in Naviance and sometimes classes have strong or off years with certain schools. But going from 243 to less than 100 applications for VT says something.

It will be very interesting to see what happens when WM goes to ED this year. And I am very thankful my kid wants WM and not VT (overenrolled) or UVA (a huge gamble the first year of ED).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because you asked and Naviance 2019 loaded:

Don’t flame if my math is wrong somewhere. I did it on the back of a sheet of paper.

In state applied/ accepted/ attending:
UVA: 333/152/53. (48% admit rate and In line with prior years)
WM: 189/153/40 (80% admit rate and in line with prior years)
VT: 99/71/21 (the huge surprise. Normally 200-250 kids apply. But only low 20s attend each year. So their attend number stayed stable).

Also:

GMU 17
VCU. 9 (their guaranteed admit med school program is popular at TJ)

So: 114 to UVA/WM/VT and 142 in state (although I didn’t pull every state school, no one to CNU)

Pitt: 116/113/25. Making it the 3rd most popular school and this the first year more kids applied to Pitt than VT and more kids attend Pitt than VT. They give amazing merit aid to TJ kids, the counselors love them, and rolling admissions).

39 to Ivys:
Cornell topping the list at 15 (it’s always high, b/c engineering)
8 to Harvard
5 to Yale
4 to Princeton
2 to Columbia
1 to Dartmouth
0 to Brown

29 to Almost Ivy’s:
8 to MIT
1 to Cal Tech
12 to Chicago, out of 15 accepted (!!!— that’s a huge number for a non-engineering/CS school)
4 each to Stanford and Duke


75 to the T10 Engineering schools not already listed:
17 to Michigan
6 to GT
10 to Berkeley
15 to CMU
13 to UI-CU
10 to Purdue
4 to UT Austin

14 total to the other T20 National Us not already listed put together, with 1-2 per school, except 3 to UCLA and 4 to WashU

2 to Williams. I didn’t pullall of the top SLACs, but kids were admitted to, but are not attending Amherst, Swarthmore, and Davidson.

Other places I spot checked b/c I know kids going: Grinnell (1), Kenyon (1), CWRU (3), Ohio State (2), Penn State (6)

So that’s 339 of the 425. The rest are likely to be 1-2 students each to T50 schools, a few SLACs, and T10-T20 engineering. Probably at least 10-12 at other UCs combined, although I didn’t pull each one.

Make of it what you will. I’m shocked that VT went from 243 apps in 2018 to 99 in 2019. And had fewer students enroll than Pitt for the first time. And had fewer students apply than Pitt, Michigan or GT. Especially in a year when VT overenrolled. What I’m hearing (based on a sample size of about 4) is that kids aren’t filling out the Coalition app and writing the extra essays unless they really want VT. They are using Pitt as their safety instead.

Anyway, looks like a great year to me. But, have at it.

,

The acceptance rate to UVA has historically been over 60%. The below 50% is a shocker.

Not quite. 56% when rounded to the nearest whole number in 2017 and 2018. But they had fewer kids apply this year (333 vs 349 in 2018) and many fewer kids accept (53 vs 83).

Meanwhile, WM had lower applications in 2018 (168) and fewer kids accept (27), but the 2019 numbers are almost identical to the 2017. It’s hard to see a trend with only 3 years of the data broken down in Naviance and sometimes classes have strong or off years with certain schools. But going from 243 to less than 100 applications for VT says something.

It will be very interesting to see what happens when WM goes to ED this year. And I am very thankful my kid wants WM and not VT (overenrolled) or UVA (a huge gamble the first year of ED).

^^ sorry, when UVA goes ED this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the decline in TJHSST students actually choosing to attend UVa was a factor in Admissions' return to the ED option this year.

It’s hard to believe UVA is doing anything based on what 20 TJ kids decide. And Naviance doesn’t have Honors College numbers. But, in the era of USNWR looking at yield, I think they would have to go back to ED to keep their ranking.

[Anonymous]

Adding to the list, another 36 kids, which gets you to 375.

Georgetown. 7
GW 2

UMD-CP. 7
UNC. 3
U. Wisconsin- Madison 3
2 each to USC, UC-Davis, UC-Santa Barbara, and UC San Diego
2 to Northeastern
2 to Tufts
1 to U. Florida
1 to U. Alabama

[Anonymous]

Adding some more:

3- Worcester Polytechnic
7- NYU
1- York College
2- Brandeis
1- U South Carolina

So that’s 389. Or 90% of the class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because you asked and Naviance 2019 loaded:

Don’t flame if my math is wrong somewhere. I did it on the back of a sheet of paper.

In state applied/ accepted/ attending:
UVA: 333/152/53. (48% admit rate and In line with prior years)
WM: 189/153/40 (80% admit rate and in line with prior years)
VT: 99/71/21 (the huge surprise. Normally 200-250 kids apply. But only low 20s attend each year. So their attend number stayed stable).

Also:

GMU 17
VCU. 9 (their guaranteed admit med school program is popular at TJ)

So: 114 to UVA/WM/VT and 142 in state (although I didn’t pull every state school, no one to CNU)

Pitt: 116/113/25. Making it the 3rd most popular school and this the first year more kids applied to Pitt than VT and more kids attend Pitt than VT. They give amazing merit aid to TJ kids, the counselors love them, and rolling admissions).

39 to Ivys:
Cornell topping the list at 15 (it’s always high, b/c engineering)
8 to Harvard
5 to Yale
4 to Princeton
2 to Columbia
1 to Dartmouth
0 to Brown

29 to Almost Ivy’s:
8 to MIT
1 to Cal Tech
12 to Chicago, out of 15 accepted (!!!— that’s a huge number for a non-engineering/CS school)
4 each to Stanford and Duke


75 to the T10 Engineering schools not already listed:
17 to Michigan
6 to GT
10 to Berkeley
15 to CMU
13 to UI-CU
10 to Purdue
4 to UT Austin

14 total to the other T20 National Us not already listed put together, with 1-2 per school, except 3 to UCLA and 4 to WashU

2 to Williams. I didn’t pullall of the top SLACs, but kids were admitted to, but are not attending Amherst, Swarthmore, and Davidson.

Other places I spot checked b/c I know kids going: Grinnell (1), Kenyon (1), CWRU (3), Ohio State (2), Penn State (6)

So that’s 339 of the 425. The rest are likely to be 1-2 students each to T50 schools, a few SLACs, and T10-T20 engineering. Probably at least 10-12 at other UCs combined, although I didn’t pull each one.

Make of it what you will. I’m shocked that VT went from 243 apps in 2018 to 99 in 2019. And had fewer students enroll than Pitt for the first time. And had fewer students apply than Pitt, Michigan or GT. Especially in a year when VT overenrolled. What I’m hearing (based on a sample size of about 4) is that kids aren’t filling out the Coalition app and writing the extra essays unless they really want VT. They are using Pitt as their safety instead.

Anyway, looks like a great year to me. But, have at it.

Thanks for the effort to gather this data! I like to see the trends on where TJ kids end up. The VT data is very surprising to me. When my kid graduated VT was THE safety school. A real bargain and a very good school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did end of the year recitals and banquets and senior nights for two TJ kids this year. And for most, where the kids were attending was listed. So, I’ve seen the lost in bits and pieces.

A few observations.

Kids who don’t know they want Vat aren’t even applying because it requires the coalition app. And everything else TJ does for colleges is common app based. So, kids who might have put a safety app into VT are applying to Pitt instead.

Speaking of which, Pitt is increasingly attractive for TJ kids. Pittsburgh has really turned itself around, they take the common app, have rolling admissions and you can take some classes at CMU. Plus, they literally take 99% of TJ applicants, and rumor is they give enough merit aid to TJ kids to get the price down to VT— or less. My kid is applying now. If VAt did common app, he’d check the box. But unless Pitt rejects him in October, he has his safety school, and no desire to start over with the Coalition. It sucks the one of the top tier VA schools hold out for a second round of essays, and a second application.

TJ also has a lot of kids who can afford in state but not full rode private. And once you get below the top 25% of the class going to Ivy’s and taking out loans, kids are shopping for merit aid to bring the cost down to in state. And/or are applying for T10 engineering/CS. 2019 numbers aren’t up yet, but in the last 4 years, there were 6 applications to St. Olaf, 5 acceptances, 4 attending. That’s a lot of merit money. Oberlin and Grinnell also attract relatively few applications— but more than 5 years ago. CWRU is another biggie. All schools with great merit.

Pitt gives really good merit-based aid, too. For the right applicant, it's probably the same or cheaper than VT instate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because you asked and Naviance 2019 loaded:

Don’t flame if my math is wrong somewhere. I did it on the back of a sheet of paper.

In state applied/ accepted/ attending:
UVA: 333/152/53. (48% admit rate and In line with prior years)
WM: 189/153/40 (80% admit rate and in line with prior years)
VT: 99/71/21 (the huge surprise. Normally 200-250 kids apply. But only low 20s attend each year. So their attend number stayed stable).

Also:

GMU 17
VCU. 9 (their guaranteed admit med school program is popular at TJ)

So: 114 to UVA/WM/VT and 142 in state (although I didn’t pull every state school, no one to CNU)

Pitt: 116/113/25. Making it the 3rd most popular school and this the first year more kids applied to Pitt than VT and more kids attend Pitt than VT. They give amazing merit aid to TJ kids, the counselors love them, and rolling admissions).

39 to Ivys:
Cornell topping the list at 15 (it’s always high, b/c engineering)
8 to Harvard
5 to Yale
4 to Princeton
2 to Columbia
1 to Dartmouth
0 to Brown

29 to Almost Ivy’s:
8 to MIT
1 to Cal Tech
12 to Chicago, out of 15 accepted (!!!— that’s a huge number for a non-engineering/CS school)
4 each to Stanford and Duke


75 to the T10 Engineering schools not already listed:
17 to Michigan
6 to GT
10 to Berkeley
15 to CMU
13 to UI-CU
10 to Purdue
4 to UT Austin

14 total to the other T20 National Us not already listed put together, with 1-2 per school, except 3 to UCLA and 4 to WashU

2 to Williams. I didn’t pullall of the top SLACs, but kids were admitted to, but are not attending Amherst, Swarthmore, and Davidson.

Other places I spot checked b/c I know kids going: Grinnell (1), Kenyon (1), CWRU (3), Ohio State (2), Penn State (6)

So that’s 339 of the 425. The rest are likely to be 1-2 students each to T50 schools, a few SLACs, and T10-T20 engineering. Probably at least 10-12 at other UCs combined, although I didn’t pull each one.

Make of it what you will. I’m shocked that VT went from 243 apps in 2018 to 99 in 2019. And had fewer students enroll than Pitt for the first time. And had fewer students apply than Pitt, Michigan or GT. Especially in a year when VT overenrolled. What I’m hearing (based on a sample size of about 4) is that kids aren’t filling out the Coalition app and writing the extra essays unless they really want VT. They are using Pitt as their safety instead.

Anyway, looks like a great year to me. But, have at it.

The Naviance seems kind of unbelievable. Only 99 applying to VT? That would be a HUGE change from prior years for one year. I wonder if there is a data issue.

You also say UVA admit rate is in line with prior years, but that is a significantly lower rate than prior years. It used to be quite high if you looked at the PDF the school produces. I wonder if this is a reflection of increased UVA selectivity, or a change in their admit strategy for TJ (or both). The other data point is the number going to UVA and VT are down considerably in 2019.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the decline in TJHSST students actually choosing to attend UVa was a factor in Admissions' return to the ED option this year.

It’s hard to believe UVA is doing anything based on what 20 TJ kids decide. And Naviance doesn’t have Honors College numbers. But, in the era of USNWR looking at yield, I think they would have to go back to ED to keep their ranking.

I suspect ED may have more to do with aid budget. ED applicants tend to be wealthier and closer to full pay. That frees up money for other targeted things in admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because you asked and Naviance 2019 loaded:

Don’t flame if my math is wrong somewhere. I did it on the back of a sheet of paper.

In state applied/ accepted/ attending:
UVA: 333/152/53. (48% admit rate and In line with prior years)
WM: 189/153/40 (80% admit rate and in line with prior years)
VT: 99/71/21 (the huge surprise. Normally 200-250 kids apply. But only low 20s attend each year. So their attend number stayed stable).

Also:

GMU 17
VCU. 9 (their guaranteed admit med school program is popular at TJ)

So: 114 to UVA/WM/VT and 142 in state (although I didn’t pull every state school, no one to CNU)

Pitt: 116/113/25. Making it the 3rd most popular school and this the first year more kids applied to Pitt than VT and more kids attend Pitt than VT. They give amazing merit aid to TJ kids, the counselors love them, and rolling admissions).

39 to Ivys:
Cornell topping the list at 15 (it’s always high, b/c engineering)
8 to Harvard
5 to Yale
4 to Princeton
2 to Columbia
1 to Dartmouth
0 to Brown

29 to Almost Ivy’s:
8 to MIT
1 to Cal Tech
12 to Chicago, out of 15 accepted (!!!— that’s a huge number for a non-engineering/CS school)
4 each to Stanford and Duke


75 to the T10 Engineering schools not already listed:
17 to Michigan
6 to GT
10 to Berkeley
15 to CMU
13 to UI-CU
10 to Purdue
4 to UT Austin

14 total to the other T20 National Us not already listed put together, with 1-2 per school, except 3 to UCLA and 4 to WashU

2 to Williams. I didn’t pullall of the top SLACs, but kids were admitted to, but are not attending Amherst, Swarthmore, and Davidson.

Other places I spot checked b/c I know kids going: Grinnell (1), Kenyon (1), CWRU (3), Ohio State (2), Penn State (6)

So that’s 339 of the 425. The rest are likely to be 1-2 students each to T50 schools, a few SLACs, and T10-T20 engineering. Probably at least 10-12 at other UCs combined, although I didn’t pull each one.

Make of it what you will. I’m shocked that VT went from 243 apps in 2018 to 99 in 2019. And had fewer students enroll than Pitt for the first time. And had fewer students apply than Pitt, Michigan or GT. Especially in a year when VT overenrolled. What I’m hearing (based on a sample size of about 4) is that kids aren’t filling out the Coalition app and writing the extra essays unless they really want VT. They are using Pitt as their safety instead.

Anyway, looks like a great year to me. But, have at it.

,

The acceptance rate to UVA has historically been over 60%. The below 50% is a shocker.

Not quite. 56% when rounded to the nearest whole number in 2017 and 2018. But they had fewer kids apply this year (333 vs 349 in 2018) and many fewer kids accept (53 vs 83).

Meanwhile, WM had lower applications in 2018 (168) and fewer kids accept (27), but the 2019 numbers are almost identical to the 2017. It’s hard to see a trend with only 3 years of the data broken down in Naviance and sometimes classes have strong or off years with certain schools. But going from 243 to less than 100 applications for VT says something.

It will be very interesting to see what happens when WM goes to ED this year. And I am very thankful my kid wants WM and not VT (overenrolled) or UVA (a huge gamble the first year of ED).

The Bull Moose seems to have an increase in W&M attendees for 2019. Someone said VT has consistently been in the 20s, but Bull Moose has 38, 35, 42, 38, 16 (2019) for trend for last few years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because you asked and Naviance 2019 loaded:

Don’t flame if my math is wrong somewhere. I did it on the back of a sheet of paper.

In state applied/ accepted/ attending:
UVA: 333/152/53. (48% admit rate and In line with prior years)
WM: 189/153/40 (80% admit rate and in line with prior years)
VT: 99/71/21 (the huge surprise. Normally 200-250 kids apply. But only low 20s attend each year. So their attend number stayed stable).

Also:

GMU 17
VCU. 9 (their guaranteed admit med school program is popular at TJ)

So: 114 to UVA/WM/VT and 142 in state (although I didn’t pull every state school, no one to CNU)

Pitt: 116/113/25. Making it the 3rd most popular school and this the first year more kids applied to Pitt than VT and more kids attend Pitt than VT. They give amazing merit aid to TJ kids, the counselors love them, and rolling admissions).

39 to Ivys:
Cornell topping the list at 15 (it’s always high, b/c engineering)
8 to Harvard
5 to Yale
4 to Princeton
2 to Columbia
1 to Dartmouth
0 to Brown

29 to Almost Ivy’s:
8 to MIT
1 to Cal Tech
12 to Chicago, out of 15 accepted (!!!— that’s a huge number for a non-engineering/CS school)
4 each to Stanford and Duke


75 to the T10 Engineering schools not already listed:
17 to Michigan
6 to GT
10 to Berkeley
15 to CMU
13 to UI-CU
10 to Purdue
4 to UT Austin

14 total to the other T20 National Us not already listed put together, with 1-2 per school, except 3 to UCLA and 4 to WashU

2 to Williams. I didn’t pullall of the top SLACs, but kids were admitted to, but are not attending Amherst, Swarthmore, and Davidson.

Other places I spot checked b/c I know kids going: Grinnell (1), Kenyon (1), CWRU (3), Ohio State (2), Penn State (6)

So that’s 339 of the 425. The rest are likely to be 1-2 students each to T50 schools, a few SLACs, and T10-T20 engineering. Probably at least 10-12 at other UCs combined, although I didn’t pull each one.

Make of it what you will. I’m shocked that VT went from 243 apps in 2018 to 99 in 2019. And had fewer students enroll than Pitt for the first time. And had fewer students apply than Pitt, Michigan or GT. Especially in a year when VT overenrolled. What I’m hearing (based on a sample size of about 4) is that kids aren’t filling out the Coalition app and writing the extra essays unless they really want VT. They are using Pitt as their safety instead.

Anyway, looks like a great year to me. But, have at it.

The Naviance seems kind of unbelievable. Only 99 applying to VT? That would be a HUGE change from prior years for one year. I wonder if there is a data issue.

You also say UVA admit rate is in line with prior years, but that is a significantly lower rate than prior years. It used to be quite high if you looked at the PDF the school produces. I wonder if this is a reflection of increased UVA selectivity, or a change in their admit strategy for TJ (or both). The other data point is the number going to UVA and VT are down considerably in 2019.

The same number of kids are going to VT— it’s been low 20s the last several years. The difference is number of kids applying. Doing the Coalition App is a PITA, and more essays. And VT may be the only TJ competitive school that requires coalition. TJ itself isn’t set up for Coalition— transcripts and red letters go automatically to common, and it’s more steps to do Coalition manually. So, kids have moved to Pitt as their engineering safety. Everyone gets in. Everyone gets enough merit aid to make it cost less than VT. And lots of kids like the more urban campus. Remember that most kids don’t actually plan to attend their safety school. They apply to Pitt. They are are thinking Michigan.

I have a rising senior. He would be applying to VT as a safety, but doesn’t want to deal with the Coalition. He has several friends applying for engineering. The only one who is applying VT is the one whose first choice is VT. She is applying ED and hoping to only have to use the Coalition.

I’m actually around TJ upperclassmen, and talked to my kids counselor about admissions/ college right before school ended in June. I don’t think it’s a data error. I think it’s high demand for TJ kids by other engineering schools and a desire to avoid the Coalition app. And Pitt has been aggressively buying talent for the last 5 years at least, so they can say they have more TJ kids than any other engineering school. It’s smart.

As for UVA. Colleges have good and bad years. 2018 was weak for WM and it rebounded. You need more than one years worth of data. But ED is going to cause a reset anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because you asked and Naviance 2019 loaded:

Don’t flame if my math is wrong somewhere. I did it on the back of a sheet of paper.

In state applied/ accepted/ attending:
UVA: 333/152/53. (48% admit rate and In line with prior years)
WM: 189/153/40 (80% admit rate and in line with prior years)
VT: 99/71/21 (the huge surprise. Normally 200-250 kids apply. But only low 20s attend each year. So their attend number stayed stable).

Also:

GMU 17
VCU. 9 (their guaranteed admit med school program is popular at TJ)

So: 114 to UVA/WM/VT and 142 in state (although I didn’t pull every state school, no one to CNU)

Pitt: 116/113/25. Making it the 3rd most popular school and this the first year more kids applied to Pitt than VT and more kids attend Pitt than VT. They give amazing merit aid to TJ kids, the counselors love them, and rolling admissions).

39 to Ivys:
Cornell topping the list at 15 (it’s always high, b/c engineering)
8 to Harvard
5 to Yale
4 to Princeton
2 to Columbia
1 to Dartmouth
0 to Brown

29 to Almost Ivy’s:
8 to MIT
1 to Cal Tech
12 to Chicago, out of 15 accepted (!!!— that’s a huge number for a non-engineering/CS school)
4 each to Stanford and Duke


75 to the T10 Engineering schools not already listed:
17 to Michigan
6 to GT
10 to Berkeley
15 to CMU
13 to UI-CU
10 to Purdue
4 to UT Austin

14 total to the other T20 National Us not already listed put together, with 1-2 per school, except 3 to UCLA and 4 to WashU

2 to Williams. I didn’t pullall of the top SLACs, but kids were admitted to, but are not attending Amherst, Swarthmore, and Davidson.

Other places I spot checked b/c I know kids going: Grinnell (1), Kenyon (1), CWRU (3), Ohio State (2), Penn State (6)

So that’s 339 of the 425. The rest are likely to be 1-2 students each to T50 schools, a few SLACs, and T10-T20 engineering. Probably at least 10-12 at other UCs combined, although I didn’t pull each one.

Make of it what you will. I’m shocked that VT went from 243 apps in 2018 to 99 in 2019. And had fewer students enroll than Pitt for the first time. And had fewer students apply than Pitt, Michigan or GT. Especially in a year when VT overenrolled. What I’m hearing (based on a sample size of about 4) is that kids aren’t filling out the Coalition app and writing the extra essays unless they really want VT. They are using Pitt as their safety instead.

Anyway, looks like a great year to me. But, have at it.

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The acceptance rate to UVA has historically been over 60%. The below 50% is a shocker.

Not quite. 56% when rounded to the nearest whole number in 2017 and 2018. But they had fewer kids apply this year (333 vs 349 in 2018) and many fewer kids accept (53 vs 83).

Meanwhile, WM had lower applications in 2018 (168) and fewer kids accept (27), but the 2019 numbers are almost identical to the 2017. It’s hard to see a trend with only 3 years of the data broken down in Naviance and sometimes classes have strong or off years with certain schools. But going from 243 to less than 100 applications for VT says something.

It will be very interesting to see what happens when WM goes to ED this year. And I am very thankful my kid wants WM and not VT (overenrolled) or UVA (a huge gamble the first year of ED).

The Bull Moose seems to have an increase in W&M attendees for 2019. Someone said VT has consistently been in the 20s, but Bull Moose has 38, 35, 42, 38, 16 (2019) for trend for last few years.

I would trust Naviance over Bull Moose. They only have breakdowns back to 2017. VT is 44 (2017), 22 (2018), 21 (2019) enrolled. Realize Bull Moose is self report. And VT is a safety. Some kids will think they are attending in May, and then get off the WL somewhere else.

WM 2017 to 2019 is 37, 27, 40 enrolled.