Immigration Bill

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Anonymous wrote:And when this gets killed in the senate, don't be surprised if people support Trump on this matter.

That's why trump destroyed the R field - immigration was really the one area where he ran totally against the party and it propelled him

Don't forget, Trump got fewer votes than his opponent. The idea that there is some mandate for his policies was never true. He has run into more problems on his immigration proposals than in any other are and that's going to continue.

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA

so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?

Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.

Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.

Except the waiting period even to get a sibling runs into decades. So your theory of chain migration letting people into this country to the tune of millions is possible if humans live for 200 years.

that is not true. it says in the documents/website it will take 20 years to bring ina sibling on reality it moves faster. not sure why, or maybe those people bring sibling illegally and merely start the paperwork.

You need to be a US citizen to apply for your siblings. You also need to wait 5 years to get citizenship after green card. Uncle's uncle is not coming in 50 years.

uncle's uncle will be here immediately and file his paperwork. my nanny brought half of her village to DC.

You can't file paperwork immediately as a green card holder other than your spouse or minor children. And the wait time is long.

right. but they can come here illegally and then become legal over time.

That's a totally different issue.

I have no idea why Steve Bannon/Miller picked LEGAL immigration issue as the first immigration bill to bring up.

because it's important and most people support merit system.

We already have merit system for people don't have family connections here. I thought ILLEGAL immigration was the most pressing problem. I guess not.

So cut the quota in half is going to magically attract the best and brightest to this country?

illegal immigration is a separate problem. you can walk and chew gum at the same time, you know.

foreigners and even americans have no clue what current immigration levels are. 500k or a million means nothing to them.

having a point system will attract some number of best and brightest to this country. but it is true, best and brightest as not gonna be coming to the US in great numbers. that has nothing to do with immigration law but with globalization. life at other places with good human capital is not bad anymore, in fact sometimes it's better than in the US with its insane real estate and childcare prices. that's all the more reason to strongly prioritize talented and educated. otherwise only people from the worlds' worst places will be coming.

Illegal immigration is part of the same problem! If you make it impossible for people to come legally, guess what, they have nothing to lose and come illegally.

We have a merit based system that already exists and works in parallel with the family-based system. And guess what? The employment based system is far less subscribed than the family-based system. The visa waiting time for skilled and professional workers is non-existent or far less than the family wait times, depending on category.

We have more Spanish speakers in the US than they have in Spain, so Spanish should get points too, just like French does in Canada.

This announcement was just a political stunt to distract by the White House. This bill has been getting zero traction in the Senate.

1) employer based system is not a merit based system

2) that we have so many spanish speakers is a problem, not a virtue. people who speak spanish only should be getting negate points

3) the bill is not making it impossible to come to the country legally. even even if it did, illegal immigration should be zero. that's a matter of enforcement, not laws.

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA

so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?

Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.

Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.

Except the waiting period even to get a sibling runs into decades. So your theory of chain migration letting people into this country to the tune of millions is possible if humans live for 200 years.

that is not true. it says in the documents/website it will take 20 years to bring ina sibling on reality it moves faster. not sure why, or maybe those people bring sibling illegally and merely start the paperwork.

You need to be a US citizen to apply for your siblings. You also need to wait 5 years to get citizenship after green card. Uncle's uncle is not coming in 50 years.

uncle's uncle will be here immediately and file his paperwork. my nanny brought half of her village to DC.

You can't file paperwork immediately as a green card holder other than your spouse or minor children. And the wait time is long.

right. but they can come here illegally and then become legal over time.

That's a totally different issue.

I have no idea why Steve Bannon/Miller picked LEGAL immigration issue as the first immigration bill to bring up.

because it's important and most people support merit system.

We already have merit system for people don't have family connections here. I thought ILLEGAL immigration was the most pressing problem. I guess not.

So cut the quota in half is going to magically attract the best and brightest to this country?

illegal immigration is a separate problem. you can walk and chew gum at the same time, you know.

foreigners and even americans have no clue what current immigration levels are. 500k or a million means nothing to them.

having a point system will attract some number of best and brightest to this country. but it is true, best and brightest as not gonna be coming to the US in great numbers. that has nothing to do with immigration law but with globalization. life at other places with good human capital is not bad anymore, in fact sometimes it's better than in the US with its insane real estate and childcare prices. that's all the more reason to strongly prioritize talented and educated. otherwise only people from the worlds' worst places will be coming.

Illegal immigration is part of the same problem! If you make it impossible for people to come legally, guess what, they have nothing to lose and come illegally.

We have a merit based system that already exists and works in parallel with the family-based system. And guess what? The employment based system is far less subscribed than the family-based system. The visa waiting time for skilled and professional workers is non-existent or far less than the family wait times, depending on category.

We have more Spanish speakers in the US than they have in Spain, so Spanish should get points too, just like French does in Canada.

This announcement was just a political stunt to distract by the White House. This bill has been getting zero traction in the Senate.

1) employer based system is not a merit based system

2) that we have so many spanish speakers is a problem, not a virtue. people who speak spanish only should be getting negate points

3) the bill is not making it impossible to come to the country legally. even even if it did, illegal immigration should be zero. that's a matter of enforcement, not laws.

I was in a small store this weekend, and a woman there spoke only Spanish and was livid that the shop had no Spanish-speaking staff. She stormed out in a huff. I've never gone to a foreign country and insisted that the staff know English!

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1) employer based system is not a merit based system

2) that we have so many spanish speakers is a problem, not a virtue. people who speak spanish only should be getting negate points

3) the bill is not making it impossible to come to the country legally. even even if it did, illegal immigration should be zero. that's a matter of enforcement, not laws.

1) Did your ancestors have a job lined up when they came here? Or were they on the Mayflower and stole it from the Native Americans?
2) Did your ancestors speak English (which is not a mandated national language, by the way) before they came here? Many millions learned it once they got here and the fact is, many around the world speak it better than many Americans;
3) The bill will stifle our economy. As it is, there are millions of unfilled jobs that people don't seem to want to take, and our unemployment is at an all time low (thanks Obama)

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The employer based system is very much a merit-based system. Let's look at EB-2:

"You must be able to show exceptional ability in the sciences, arts, or business. Exceptional ability “means a degree of expertise significantly above that ordinarily encountered in the sciences, arts, or business.”

Spanish is very much part of this country. It's not a negative. The #1 song in the US is in Spanish. With 50M speakers it's a second language now. If you don't think so, visit Miami.

The bill would indeed make it impossible for many people to come to the country, the same way Canada's system does. It depends on the profile of points the government says you have.

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA

so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?

Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.

Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.

Except the waiting period even to get a sibling runs into decades. So your theory of chain migration letting people into this country to the tune of millions is possible if humans live for 200 years.

that is not true. it says in the documents/website it will take 20 years to bring ina sibling on reality it moves faster. not sure why, or maybe those people bring sibling illegally and merely start the paperwork.

You need to be a US citizen to apply for your siblings. You also need to wait 5 years to get citizenship after green card. Uncle's uncle is not coming in 50 years.

uncle's uncle will be here immediately and file his paperwork. my nanny brought half of her village to DC.

You can't file paperwork immediately as a green card holder other than your spouse or minor children. And the wait time is long.

right. but they can come here illegally and then become legal over time.

That's a totally different issue.

I have no idea why Steve Bannon/Miller picked LEGAL immigration issue as the first immigration bill to bring up.

because it's important and most people support merit system.

We already have merit system for people don't have family connections here. I thought ILLEGAL immigration was the most pressing problem. I guess not.

So cut the quota in half is going to magically attract the best and brightest to this country?

illegal immigration is a separate problem. you can walk and chew gum at the same time, you know.

foreigners and even americans have no clue what current immigration levels are. 500k or a million means nothing to them.

having a point system will attract some number of best and brightest to this country. but it is true, best and brightest as not gonna be coming to the US in great numbers. that has nothing to do with immigration law but with globalization. life at other places with good human capital is not bad anymore, in fact sometimes it's better than in the US with its insane real estate and childcare prices. that's all the more reason to strongly prioritize talented and educated. otherwise only people from the worlds' worst places will be coming.

Illegal immigration is part of the same problem! If you make it impossible for people to come legally, guess what, they have nothing to lose and come illegally.

We have a merit based system that already exists and works in parallel with the family-based system. And guess what? The employment based system is far less subscribed than the family-based system. The visa waiting time for skilled and professional workers is non-existent or far less than the family wait times, depending on category.

We have more Spanish speakers in the US than they have in Spain, so Spanish should get points too, just like French does in Canada.

This announcement was just a political stunt to distract by the White House. This bill has been getting zero traction in the Senate.

1) employer based system is not a merit based system

2) that we have so many spanish speakers is a problem, not a virtue. people who speak spanish only should be getting negate points

3) the bill is not making it impossible to come to the country legally. even even if it did, illegal immigration should be zero. that's a matter of enforcement, not laws.

I was in a small store this weekend, and a woman there spoke only Spanish and was livid that the shop had no Spanish-speaking staff. She stormed out in a huff. I've never gone to a foreign country and insisted that the staff know English!

Your Spanish must be pretty good if you understood all that.

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA

so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?

Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.

Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.

Except the waiting period even to get a sibling runs into decades. So your theory of chain migration letting people into this country to the tune of millions is possible if humans live for 200 years.

that is not true. it says in the documents/website it will take 20 years to bring ina sibling on reality it moves faster. not sure why, or maybe those people bring sibling illegally and merely start the paperwork.

You need to be a US citizen to apply for your siblings. You also need to wait 5 years to get citizenship after green card. Uncle's uncle is not coming in 50 years.

uncle's uncle will be here immediately and file his paperwork. my nanny brought half of her village to DC.

You can't file paperwork immediately as a green card holder other than your spouse or minor children. And the wait time is long.

right. but they can come here illegally and then become legal over time.

That's a totally different issue.

I have no idea why Steve Bannon/Miller picked LEGAL immigration issue as the first immigration bill to bring up.

because it's important and most people support merit system.

We already have merit system for people don't have family connections here. I thought ILLEGAL immigration was the most pressing problem. I guess not.

So cut the quota in half is going to magically attract the best and brightest to this country?

illegal immigration is a separate problem. you can walk and chew gum at the same time, you know.

foreigners and even americans have no clue what current immigration levels are. 500k or a million means nothing to them.

having a point system will attract some number of best and brightest to this country. but it is true, best and brightest as not gonna be coming to the US in great numbers. that has nothing to do with immigration law but with globalization. life at other places with good human capital is not bad anymore, in fact sometimes it's better than in the US with its insane real estate and childcare prices. that's all the more reason to strongly prioritize talented and educated. otherwise only people from the worlds' worst places will be coming.

Illegal immigration is part of the same problem! If you make it impossible for people to come legally, guess what, they have nothing to lose and come illegally.

We have a merit based system that already exists and works in parallel with the family-based system. And guess what? The employment based system is far less subscribed than the family-based system. The visa waiting time for skilled and professional workers is non-existent or far less than the family wait times, depending on category.

We have more Spanish speakers in the US than they have in Spain, so Spanish should get points too, just like French does in Canada.

This announcement was just a political stunt to distract by the White House. This bill has been getting zero traction in the Senate.

1) employer based system is not a merit based system

2) that we have so many spanish speakers is a problem, not a virtue. people who speak spanish only should be getting negate points

3) the bill is not making it impossible to come to the country legally. even even if it did, illegal immigration should be zero. that's a matter of enforcement, not laws.

I was in a small store this weekend, and a woman there spoke only Spanish and was livid that the shop had no Spanish-speaking staff. She stormed out in a huff. I've never gone to a foreign country and insisted that the staff know English!

You must not travel much. Americans routinely expect foreigners to speak English overseas. What's even funnier is hearing Americans refer to people in their own countries as "foreigners." BTW we all know your little story is BS.

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Anonymous wrote:The employer based system is very much a merit-based system. Let's look at EB-2:

"You must be able to show exceptional ability in the sciences, arts, or business. Exceptional ability “means a degree of expertise significantly above that ordinarily encountered in the sciences, arts, or business.”

Spanish is very much part of this country. It's not a negative. The #1 song in the US is in Spanish. With 50M speakers it's a second language now. If you don't think so, visit Miami.

The bill would indeed make it impossible for many people to come to the country, the same way Canada's system does. It depends on the profile of points the government says you have.

i have been to miami. i asked policeman for directions but he only spoke spanish.

and of course the bill would make it impossible for many people to come to the country. that's what it is supposed to do, in fact any restriction on immigration whatsoever makes it impossible for "many people to come to the country". who cares!

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA

so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?

Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.

Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.

Except the waiting period even to get a sibling runs into decades. So your theory of chain migration letting people into this country to the tune of millions is possible if humans live for 200 years.

that is not true. it says in the documents/website it will take 20 years to bring ina sibling on reality it moves faster. not sure why, or maybe those people bring sibling illegally and merely start the paperwork.

You need to be a US citizen to apply for your siblings. You also need to wait 5 years to get citizenship after green card. Uncle's uncle is not coming in 50 years.

uncle's uncle will be here immediately and file his paperwork. my nanny brought half of her village to DC.

You can't file paperwork immediately as a green card holder other than your spouse or minor children. And the wait time is long.

right. but they can come here illegally and then become legal over time.

That's a totally different issue.

I have no idea why Steve Bannon/Miller picked LEGAL immigration issue as the first immigration bill to bring up.

because it's important and most people support merit system.

We already have merit system for people don't have family connections here. I thought ILLEGAL immigration was the most pressing problem. I guess not.

So cut the quota in half is going to magically attract the best and brightest to this country?

illegal immigration is a separate problem. you can walk and chew gum at the same time, you know.

foreigners and even americans have no clue what current immigration levels are. 500k or a million means nothing to them.

having a point system will attract some number of best and brightest to this country. but it is true, best and brightest as not gonna be coming to the US in great numbers. that has nothing to do with immigration law but with globalization. life at other places with good human capital is not bad anymore, in fact sometimes it's better than in the US with its insane real estate and childcare prices. that's all the more reason to strongly prioritize talented and educated. otherwise only people from the worlds' worst places will be coming.

Illegal immigration is part of the same problem! If you make it impossible for people to come legally, guess what, they have nothing to lose and come illegally.

We have a merit based system that already exists and works in parallel with the family-based system. And guess what? The employment based system is far less subscribed than the family-based system. The visa waiting time for skilled and professional workers is non-existent or far less than the family wait times, depending on category.

We have more Spanish speakers in the US than they have in Spain, so Spanish should get points too, just like French does in Canada.

This announcement was just a political stunt to distract by the White House. This bill has been getting zero traction in the Senate.

1) employer based system is not a merit based system

2) that we have so many spanish speakers is a problem, not a virtue. people who speak spanish only should be getting negate points

3) the bill is not making it impossible to come to the country legally. even even if it did, illegal immigration should be zero. that's a matter of enforcement, not laws.

I was in a small store this weekend, and a woman there spoke only Spanish and was livid that the shop had no Spanish-speaking staff. She stormed out in a huff. I've never gone to a foreign country and insisted that the staff know English!

You must not travel much. Americans routinely expect foreigners to speak English overseas. What's even funnier is hearing Americans refer to people in their own countries as "foreigners." BTW we all know your little story is BS.

everyone expects others to speak english. russian tourists in brazil except people to speak english. japanese businessmen in south africa expect their hosts to speak english.

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA

so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?

Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.

Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.

Except the waiting period even to get a sibling runs into decades. So your theory of chain migration letting people into this country to the tune of millions is possible if humans live for 200 years.

that is not true. it says in the documents/website it will take 20 years to bring ina sibling on reality it moves faster. not sure why, or maybe those people bring sibling illegally and merely start the paperwork.

You need to be a US citizen to apply for your siblings. You also need to wait 5 years to get citizenship after green card. Uncle's uncle is not coming in 50 years.

uncle's uncle will be here immediately and file his paperwork. my nanny brought half of her village to DC.

You can't file paperwork immediately as a green card holder other than your spouse or minor children. And the wait time is long.

right. but they can come here illegally and then become legal over time.

That's a totally different issue.

I have no idea why Steve Bannon/Miller picked LEGAL immigration issue as the first immigration bill to bring up.

because it's important and most people support merit system.

We already have merit system for people don't have family connections here. I thought ILLEGAL immigration was the most pressing problem. I guess not.

So cut the quota in half is going to magically attract the best and brightest to this country?

illegal immigration is a separate problem. you can walk and chew gum at the same time, you know.

foreigners and even americans have no clue what current immigration levels are. 500k or a million means nothing to them.

having a point system will attract some number of best and brightest to this country. but it is true, best and brightest as not gonna be coming to the US in great numbers. that has nothing to do with immigration law but with globalization. life at other places with good human capital is not bad anymore, in fact sometimes it's better than in the US with its insane real estate and childcare prices. that's all the more reason to strongly prioritize talented and educated. otherwise only people from the worlds' worst places will be coming.

Illegal immigration is part of the same problem! If you make it impossible for people to come legally, guess what, they have nothing to lose and come illegally.

We have a merit based system that already exists and works in parallel with the family-based system. And guess what? The employment based system is far less subscribed than the family-based system. The visa waiting time for skilled and professional workers is non-existent or far less than the family wait times, depending on category.

We have more Spanish speakers in the US than they have in Spain, so Spanish should get points too, just like French does in Canada.

This announcement was just a political stunt to distract by the White House. This bill has been getting zero traction in the Senate.

it won't get traction in the senate because all dems oppose it (to their peril - see peter beinart a liberal on this issue in the atlantic recently) and there are enough R's who are beholden to big business that want to flood the country with low skilled drones.

Remember the vox interview when bernie was asked if he supported relaxed immigration - he said 'no, that's a koch brothers proposal. we need to have an immigration policy that protects american workers". he said this in an interview with ezra klein

The bill is not new. Many Republicans oppose it.

yes republicans oppose it for the reasons bernie voiced in the vox inteview.

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one thing is clear - tom cotton is running for potus in 2024

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Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant and I remember being shocked at what kind of people in the waiting room at the uS embassy were getttong green cards. Like the most backward looking. Meanwhile i was rejected for a tourist visa though I had no intention whatsoever of staying.

I happened to win a green card lottery so eventually I came in. But I never would have otherwise.

As a liberal, when you bring this up - the Latino groups hammer you.

They are fully against Australian/Canadian type systems.

We should be bringing in more Japanese, Koreans, Jews, high IQ northwest Europeans.

Not the dregs

You realize that there is far more variation in iQ within races than between them.

Wait of course you don't, which proves the point.

I am the immigrant above and this all happened within the same race. Basically poor probably illiterate villagers were getting green cards while educated people knew they had no chance. I was only looking for a tourist visa and still didn't get it. American embassies are so arrogant and stupid.

If you were intelligent, you would understand why we should not choose people based on countries you think are high iQ.

i am profoundly gifted thx. i didn't say the people should be chosen based on country of origin. and that's not in the bill either, as i understand it.

i am merely providing my perspective from the other side. every smart, educated person who wanted to immigrate (which i didn't) went to canada embassy. those who were rejected there went to australia and NZ. nobody even tried to get a green card for the US because that was impossible if you had no family connections (no matter how remote) in the US. some smart people still managed to stay in the US mostly by going to phd programs and then getting jobs/getting employer sponsorship. but basically there was no route to legally immigrate.

I think this brings up a really good point: why are we allowing immigration via family connections? It's pretty absurd to let a person and his entire family immigrate simply because they already have one sibling in the United States who sponsors them. It's a completely illogical way of running an immigration system.

I'm on board with moving to a point system for individuals with good educations, technical skills, or badly needed language abilities. I'm also totally open to allowing more refugees or those facing persecution (religious, gender, LBGT, etc).

But the family-based system is nuts. No way in hell is one brother already in the US able to support all his siblings, their kids, and parents.

Frisco TX and Ashburn VA, have turned into Bangalore with family immigration.

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Anonymous wrote:Jim Acosta was just schooled by Steven Miller.

Acosta is an entertainer not a journalist.

Media has shamed itself pushing for "gotcha" questions rather than real investigative journalism.

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Anonymous wrote:one thing is clear - tom cotton is running for potus in 2024

He's foregoing 2020?

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Anonymous wrote:It's nice to know that America will have a policy similar to the one that turned away 900 Jews who fled Nazi Germany in 1939 on the MS St. Louis, #MAGA

so for how many millennia do we need to accept every single person because we turned them way? btw, weren't they highly educated or something? or are we supposed to give preference to those who have uncle's uncle in the US, the way we do now?

Do not talk what you have no clue about. That tells badly about your intelligence and maybe you deserve to be deported replaced by some smart immigrant.

The immigration policy provides options for parents and siblings of US permanent residents or citizens to immigrate not uncle or uncle's uncle. You need to be permanent resident or citizen to even apply for them NOT just a mere visa holder.

Riiight. Except that a person brings a sibling who brings a spouse who brings a sibling so pretty quickly we have uncles uncle.

The annual quota is fixed. The number of immigrants we allow is a simple function of the quota the government sets. It takes years to go through the process. Your uncle's uncle will most likely die before he can complete the process. There is a long line and a fixed number of slots given each year.

As to who is allowed to come is a totally different question from the number of immigrants we are going to get. I don't think Miller understands the distinction.

didn't watch miller my point by was that currently we in fact to give preference to uncles uncle compared to a random foreign phd, say.

Uncles do not qualify for any immigration benefit.

yes but brothers and fathers do. somehow you have difficulty grasping that it's not families but clans that are coming to the US. culturally backward people tend to be more clannish.

Brothers have ridiculoulsy long waits. As much as 25 years. Only U.S. Citizens can bring fathers (or brothers) for that matter. I think you have no clue how immigration actually works. Clans have no way to immigrate at all. You are just making that shit up.

The big problem here is cutting legal immigrants by 50%. We need legal immigrants.

This is just not true. We do NOT need legal immigrants. That is corporate propaganda. I hire developers and find HUNDREDS of available developers whenever I look. Just in virginia.

Every year we graduate more people in STEM than find STEM jobs.

Every year.