Skyview is Open for Opt-In from Any Rising 9th and 10th grader in Fairfax County

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You anti-Skyview people think it's fine that other people's kids go to school in trailers as long as you get to keep the status quo. You don't care at all that they hauled in 23 trailers and modulars at Chantilly, 13 at Westfield, 22 at Centreville, 16 at Mclean or 29 at Robinson.

Now that the school is bought and paid for, we'll see how many change their tunes about the empty, unused seats at Herndon needing to be filled when the next review comes around. Hippocrites, all of you.

Why are you conflating trailers and modular classrooms? Modulars are installed, not hauled. They are separate structures just like the current shell buildings at Skyview.

It’s sad you support creating so much excess capacity in western Fairfax all so you can dream about filling vacant seats at Herndon with one group of kids whose families are even less enthusiastic about Herndon than Crossfield families are about Skyview or Lees Corner families are about Westfield.

Maybe in your next life you’ll be a problem solver, not a problem creator.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You anti-Skyview people think it's fine that other people's kids go to school in trailers as long as you get to keep the status quo. You don't care at all that they hauled in 23 trailers and modulars at Chantilly, 13 at Westfield, 22 at Centreville, 16 at Mclean or 29 at Robinson.

Now that the school is bought and paid for, we'll see how many change their tunes about the empty, unused seats at Herndon needing to be filled when the next review comes around. Hippocrites, all of you.

Why are you conflating trailers and modular classrooms? Modulars are installed, not hauled. They are separate structures just like the current shell buildings at Skyview.

It’s sad you support creating so much excess capacity in western Fairfax all so you can dream about filling vacant seats at Herndon with one group of kids whose families are even less enthusiastic about Herndon than Crossfield families are about Skyview or Lees Corner families are about Westfield.

Maybe in your next life you’ll be a problem solver, not a problem creator.

A modular is not the same as a real building. A shell building is just not totally finished inside. It is a permanent structure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You anti-Skyview people think it's fine that other people's kids go to school in trailers as long as you get to keep the status quo. You don't care at all that they hauled in 23 trailers and modulars at Chantilly, 13 at Westfield, 22 at Centreville, 16 at Mclean or 29 at Robinson.

Now that the school is bought and paid for, we'll see how many change their tunes about the empty, unused seats at Herndon needing to be filled when the next review comes around. Hippocrites, all of you.

Why are you conflating trailers and modular classrooms? Modulars are installed, not hauled. They are separate structures just like the current shell buildings at Skyview.

It’s sad you support creating so much excess capacity in western Fairfax all so you can dream about filling vacant seats at Herndon with one group of kids whose families are even less enthusiastic about Herndon than Crossfield families are about Skyview or Lees Corner families are about Westfield.

Maybe in your next life you’ll be a problem solver, not a problem creator.

A modular is not the same as a real building. A shell building is just not totally finished inside. It is a permanent structure.

A modular has heat and AC, water connections, bathrooms, and classrooms. Right now they are more finished and suited to education than the shell buildings at Skyview.

[Anonymous]

When Skyview opens and the county expands Centreville to 3000 if that’s still happening, maybe they move part of the Fairfax (Powell, Willow Springs, maybe Eagle View) and part of Robinson (Union Mill) into Centreville.

But I hear your sentiment about Herndon being underenrolled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When Skyview opens and the county expands Centreville to 3000 if that’s still happening, maybe they move part of the Fairfax (Powell, Willow Springs, maybe Eagle View) and part of Robinson (Union Mill) into Centreville.

But I hear your sentiment about Herndon being underenrolled.

So you want to spend money on an unnecessarily large expansion of Centreville and then leave Fairfax HS severely under capacity?

Sounds like a shell game. How about we just stop wasting money?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Skyview opens and the county expands Centreville to 3000 if that’s still happening, maybe they move part of the Fairfax (Powell, Willow Springs, maybe Eagle View) and part of Robinson (Union Mill) into Centreville.

But I hear your sentiment about Herndon being underenrolled.

So you want to spend money on an unnecessarily large expansion of Centreville and then leave Fairfax HS severely under capacity?

Sounds like a shell game. How about we just stop wasting money?

Well, we have too many facilities so Fairfax and Woodson (minus Oak View) could consolidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When Skyview opens and the county expands Centreville to 3000 if that’s still happening, maybe they move part of the Fairfax (Powell, Willow Springs, maybe Eagle View) and part of Robinson (Union Mill) into Centreville.

But I hear your sentiment about Herndon being underenrolled.

Many of us that attend Willow agree with this- but no one else in the county cares that our children spend 45 mins on the bus to attend a school that’s further than 3 other Highschools. It might make Centreville more demographic heavy in one area. 😳 (Centreville is less than a mile for most Willow kids)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Skyview opens and the county expands Centreville to 3000 if that’s still happening, maybe they move part of the Fairfax (Powell, Willow Springs, maybe Eagle View) and part of Robinson (Union Mill) into Centreville.

But I hear your sentiment about Herndon being underenrolled.

So you want to spend money on an unnecessarily large expansion of Centreville and then leave Fairfax HS severely under capacity?

Sounds like a shell game. How about we just stop wasting money?

Well, we have too many facilities so Fairfax and Woodson (minus Oak View) could consolidate.

If you really believe that, they should just kill Skyview off before it opens. Fairfax and Woodson will never consolidate. Fairfax is owned by Fairfax City, and Woodson would never merge with Fairfax (not enough space at Fairfax and Woodson is a stronger school).

Coming up with one bad idea after another is not the way to go. They need to scale back the Centreville renovation substantially.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Skyview opens and the county expands Centreville to 3000 if that’s still happening, maybe they move part of the Fairfax (Powell, Willow Springs, maybe Eagle View) and part of Robinson (Union Mill) into Centreville.

But I hear your sentiment about Herndon being underenrolled.

Many of us that attend Willow agree with this- but no one else in the county cares that our children spend 45 mins on the bus to attend a school that’s further than 3 other Highschools. It might make Centreville more demographic heavy in one area. 😳 (Centreville is less than a mile for most Willow kids)

If they move part of Centreville to Westfield, doesn't that free up space at CVHS for Willow Springs? If that still requires a modest expansion of CVHS, fine.

But expanding CVHS to 3000 seats when they have 600 empty seats at Herndon, are adding 2000 seats at Skyview, and are expecting enrollment declines is beyond absurd.

And they can't empty out Fairfax HS, either, without coming to some agreement with the City of Fairfax. Consolidating Fairfax and Woodson is a non-starter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When Skyview opens and the county expands Centreville to 3000 if that’s still happening, maybe they move part of the Fairfax (Powell, Willow Springs, maybe Eagle View) and part of Robinson (Union Mill) into Centreville.

But I hear your sentiment about Herndon being underenrolled.

Many of us that attend Willow agree with this- but no one else in the county cares that our children spend 45 mins on the bus to attend a school that’s further than 3 other Highschools. It might make Centreville more demographic heavy in one area. 😳 (Centreville is less than a mile for most Willow kids)

If they move part of Centreville to Westfield, doesn't that free up space at CVHS for Willow Springs? If that still requires a modest expansion of CVHS, fine.

But expanding CVHS to 3000 seats when they have 600 empty seats at Herndon, are adding 2000 seats at Skyview, and are expecting enrollment declines is beyond absurd.

And they can't empty out Fairfax HS, either, without coming to some agreement with the City of Fairfax. Consolidating Fairfax and Woodson is a non-starter.

They shouldn't add more seats at Centreville. If they need to do a small- scale renovation to update electrical systems or mechanical systems, they should do that.

Centreville kids don't want to move to Westfield. Fairfax kids don't want to move to Centreville. The more downstream moves you add in to the boundary study, the more headaches you create.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't they just wait until it was ready and open it as a real school with boundaries and sports, and none of this nonsense.

Should have just focused on the magnet/academy options from the start instead of trying to convert it into a traditional school and prioritizing more sports facilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't they just wait until it was ready and open it as a real school with boundaries and sports, and none of this nonsense.

Should have just focused on the magnet/academy options from the start instead of trying to convert it into a traditional school and prioritizing more sports facilities.

No. A traditional school is needed. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't they just wait until it was ready and open it as a real school with boundaries and sports, and none of this nonsense.

Should have just focused on the magnet/academy options from the start instead of trying to convert it into a traditional school and prioritizing more sports facilities.

I don't think they could have come across a better location. Where they erred was not being up-front that the building was not a turn-key building, and that they'd need to spend time and money to get it ready to function as a 9-12 neighborhood high school.

Reid seemed hell-bent on opening it this fall. Not sure why. That's created all sorts of issues and distractions. They had perfectly good precedents of opening new high schools years ago with fixed boundaries, sports and activities, large freshmen and sophomore classes from within the new boundaries, and small numbers of juniors opting in to attend a new school. If that meant Skyview couldn't open until the fall of 2027 or even 2028, so what. The best case scenario otherwise would have been opening a new high school in the 2030s and even that was by no means assured.

The opt-in model allows them to open Skyview earlier for some students, but it may or may not even provide that much relief to the one school that's really crowded - Chantilly. In return, they are creating a situation where the initial class at Skyview is going to have higher test scores than later classes, so people will now say in a few years that Skyview is "declining" when it's really just doing what it always should have done - serve as a neighborhood high school.

I wish Michelle Reid was put on a one-way plane back to Washington State. She's the worst superintendent FCPS has ever had, and it's not even close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't they just wait until it was ready and open it as a real school with boundaries and sports, and none of this nonsense.

Should have just focused on the magnet/academy options from the start instead of trying to convert it into a traditional school and prioritizing more sports facilities.

I don't think they could have come across a better location. Where they erred was not being up-front that the building was not a turn-key building, and that they'd need to spend time and money to get it ready to function as a 9-12 neighborhood high school.

Reid seemed hell-bent on opening it this fall. Not sure why. That's created all sorts of issues and distractions. They had perfectly good precedents of opening new high schools years ago with fixed boundaries, sports and activities, large freshmen and sophomore classes from within the new boundaries, and small numbers of juniors opting in to attend a new school. If that meant Skyview couldn't open until the fall of 2027 or even 2028, so what. The best case scenario otherwise would have been opening a new high school in the 2030s and even that was by no means assured.

The opt-in model allows them to open Skyview earlier for some students, but it may or may not even provide that much relief to the one school that's really crowded - Chantilly. In return, they are creating a situation where the initial class at Skyview is going to have higher test scores than later classes, so people will now say in a few years that Skyview is "declining" when it's really just doing what it always should have done - serve as a neighborhood high school.

I wish Michelle Reid was put on a one-way plane back to Washington State. She's the worst superintendent FCPS has ever had, and it's not even close.

The school will be fine unless they do something really weird with the boundaries. It will have a great mix of UMC, MC, and FARMS. Test scores should be great. Jury is still out on sports...but they will have them, in any case.

I mean. Chantilly is huge. There is a great CYA athletic program in the area. And, yet, when has Chantilly had a championship football program? Westfield had one within a year or two of opening.

All the schools in this area can succeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't they just wait until it was ready and open it as a real school with boundaries and sports, and none of this nonsense.

Should have just focused on the magnet/academy options from the start instead of trying to convert it into a traditional school and prioritizing more sports facilities.

No. A traditional school is needed. Period.

New traditional schools are needed to meet declining enrollment!

Genius