Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So Arlington did say that kids will play based on the 8/1-7/31 schedule, but they subsequently sent out a short survey asking for school grades suggesting they do care about grade level. They also said playing up will be the exception but is that only at the ECNL level? For example, will strong RL players be exceptions and be able to stay on their current RL team?

“Strong RL” players? Is that actually a thing?

I think the PP meant relatively strong.

[Anonymous]

Can the playing down grade guy stick to one thread at this point? I don't want to have to report all your posts, but it's incredibly annoying how you've messed up several threads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can the playing down grade guy stick to one thread at this point? I don't want to have to report all your posts, but it's incredibly annoying how you've messed up several threads.

I think they're right which would make you wrong. So please stop messing up the threads.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Nobody believes you. To bolster your opinion, you could try adding factual information that can be verified.

Say you're a D1 college coach looking for a forward. You have 200 players pinging you to watch them play. They're all graduating in 2028 + 99% are playing on teams that are their grade 1% are playing on a team and level thats a grade down. Would you choose the one thats playing down a grade/level? Remember you're paycheck depends on wins.

This is where you lose the argument. You are inventing irrelevant hypotheticals not knowing the process while the PPs are tell you what does and you ignore them.

He's here for the argument, not the truth

They sound logical and have provided examples. You've provided nothing.

Provide quotes of every comment I've made on the thread

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever

The coach comes out to watch specific recruiting targets based on information they already have
The main one being Graduation Year

It does not matter which club team they are on

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So Arlington did say that kids will play based on the 8/1-7/31 schedule, but they subsequently sent out a short survey asking for school grades suggesting they do care about grade level. They also said playing up will be the exception but is that only at the ECNL level? For example, will strong RL players be exceptions and be able to stay on their current RL team?

“Strong RL” players? Is that actually a thing?

Why wouldn't there be strong players on RL teams?
You think the label means that much?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can the playing down grade guy stick to one thread at this point? I don't want to have to report all your posts, but it's incredibly annoying how you've messed up several threads.

I think they're right which would make you wrong. So please stop messing up the threads.

Trying to sandbag kids that aren't yours by trying to shame them into playing up and then inventing some special recruiting process that doesn't exist to help your DD is horrible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can the playing down grade guy stick to one thread at this point? I don't want to have to report all your posts, but it's incredibly annoying how you've messed up several threads.

I think they're right which would make you wrong. So please stop messing up the threads.

Trying to sandbag kids that aren't yours by trying to shame them into playing up and then inventing some special recruiting process that doesn't exist to help your DD is horrible.

Fighting against SY with players playing up (not down) on teams that are their grade in school is the sandbag/dirtbag way to get GY Showcaases.

For parents that dont know GY means grade in school as the only qualifier for eligibility. This guy wants club soccer showcases to be like HS soccer where players might be 2+ years older all playing on the same teams in front of college coaches.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever

The coach comes out to watch specific recruiting targets based on information they already have
The main one being Graduation Year

It does not matter which club team they are on

You think you can sneak it by a college coachs atrention that you're playing on a grade down level? They'll figure it out quickly and move on to a different player thats playing on a team thats their grade in school.

[Anonymous]

How about creating your own special thread that is exclusively about Aug-Sept grade-related issues?

This thread was/is? aiming for people to share what's actually happening, not what should or should not happen, based on opinions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about creating your own special thread that is exclusively about Aug-Sept grade-related issues?

This thread was/is? aiming for people to share what's actually happening, not what should or should not happen, based on opinions.

https://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/age-group-transition

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can the playing down grade guy stick to one thread at this point? I don't want to have to report all your posts, but it's incredibly annoying how you've messed up several threads.

I think they're right which would make you wrong. So please stop messing up the threads.

Trying to sandbag kids that aren't yours by trying to shame them into playing up and then inventing some special recruiting process that doesn't exist to help your DD is horrible.

Fighting against SY with players playing up (not down) on teams that are their grade in school is the sandbag/dirtbag way to get GY Showcaases.

For parents that dont know GY means grade in school as the only qualifier for eligibility. This guy wants club soccer showcases to be like HS soccer where players might be 2+ years older all playing on the same teams in front of college coaches.

You made a leap. And PP mentioned showcases aren't what you think they are. For the record, could care less about how they run showcases or IDs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can the playing down grade guy stick to one thread at this point? I don't want to have to report all your posts, but it's incredibly annoying how you've messed up several threads.

I think they're right which would make you wrong. So please stop messing up the threads.

Trying to sandbag kids that aren't yours by trying to shame them into playing up and then inventing some special recruiting process that doesn't exist to help your DD is horrible.

Fighting against SY with players playing up (not down) on teams that are their grade in school is the sandbag/dirtbag way to get GY Showcaases.

For parents that dont know GY means grade in school as the only qualifier for eligibility. This guy wants club soccer showcases to be like HS soccer where players might be 2+ years older all playing on the same teams in front of college coaches.

You made a leap. And PP mentioned showcases aren't what you think they are. For the record, could care less about how they run showcases or IDs.

You will when your kid gets older and you're paying for showcases.

Here's what will happen if ECNL implemented GY showcases. Coaches would have their hands out and certain players who's parernts pay the troll toll will get to pay on Sophmore GY teams 3 years in a row in front of college scouts.