November Govt. Shutdown - Updates

[Anonymous]

They shut it down to elect 3 blue democrat governors hopefully the public will learn that it was a scam but people are stupid

[Anonymous]

40 days of loss income I won’t be getting back

This is very upsetting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:40 days of loss income I won’t be getting back

This is very upsetting

Who stopped you from working elsewhere? Plus you did get paid via unemployment

[Anonymous]

Really, this makes no sense. Why now? When the SNAP and travel issues were serving to actually build public opinion AGAINST the ruling party and all the Dems had to do was sit back and continue to hammer Trump and the GOP?

From where I'm sitting, it looks like Dems just shot themselves in the foot at the worst time.

I don't get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Really, this makes no sense. Why now? When the SNAP and travel issues were serving to actually build public opinion AGAINST the ruling party and all the Dems had to do was sit back and continue to hammer Trump and the GOP?

From where I'm sitting, it looks like Dems just shot themselves in the foot at the worst time.

I don't get it.

Well Virginia got Abbigail men in girls bathrooms spamburger elected

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Really, this makes no sense. Why now? When the SNAP and travel issues were serving to actually build public opinion AGAINST the ruling party and all the Dems had to do was sit back and continue to hammer Trump and the GOP?

From where I'm sitting, it looks like Dems just shot themselves in the foot at the worst time.

I don't get it.

Well Virginia got Abbigail men in girls bathrooms spamburger elected

PP you replied to. That's nice, but also sort of unrelated, in the sense that the logic is to push one's advantage and accumulate wins. It's very important to do that with someone like Trump, because Trump is a zero sum game sort of person. He will always kick you when you're down, which means Dems need to fight dirty too. They could have had so much more out of this situation!

[Anonymous]

All this shows is that the Trump’s cruelty goes beyond what retiring Democratic Senators can stomach. Dems have already lost all credibility in advance of the soon-to-be January 30 deadline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DH pretty much going to have to immediately go out on PTO once the government opens because of lose or use. Don’t care. He’ll do it along with his boss.

He doesn’t “have” to go on PTO. If he was one of the many who is getting free post paid leave while on furlough, then if he has decent morals he should just eat it and work like the rest of society who doesn’t have a cushy gov job with excellent retirement benefits.

NP- this does clash horribly with all feds saying that they are devoted to their jobs and the public service that they do.
There are so many posts on how hard they work and they alone keep programs afloat and your average american doesn't appreciate.

I guess not if now you can work you're just going to go on PTO and let the program flail?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DH pretty much going to have to immediately go out on PTO once the government opens because of lose or use. Don’t care. He’ll do it along with his boss.

He doesn’t “have” to go on PTO. If he was one of the many who is getting free post paid leave while on furlough, then if he has decent morals he should just eat it and work like the rest of society who doesn’t have a cushy gov job with excellent retirement benefits.

NP- this does clash horribly with all feds saying that they are devoted to their jobs and the public service that they do.
There are so many posts on how hard they work and they alone keep programs afloat and your average american doesn't appreciate.

I guess not if now you can work you're just going to go on PTO and let the program flail?

LOL we're not volunteers you bootlicker

[Anonymous]

My agency management is unlikely to support letting people use much leave before the end of the year. They pretty much said so before we shut down.

We are going to be buried in work through the holidays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:40 days of loss income I won’t be getting back

This is very upsetting

Are you a Fed contractor?

[Anonymous]

I read on Twitter that the airline execs threatened Dems with withholding political contributions - not sure if that person was hypothesizing or reporting substantiated information, but not seems like the most likely explanation for the sudden about face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Really, this makes no sense. Why now? When the SNAP and travel issues were serving to actually build public opinion AGAINST the ruling party and all the Dems had to do was sit back and continue to hammer Trump and the GOP?

From where I'm sitting, it looks like Dems just shot themselves in the foot at the worst time.

I don't get it.

They're simply not a united caucus. My theory is that the 8 who voted yes (and probably some more) have been chomping at the bit to end the shutdown with no concessions for a couple weeks now, and only agreed to hold their fire until after the election and giving Schumer one try to make a public proposal for the subsidies on Friday. When Republicans immediately rejected that, they said "we waited long enough and now we're done." Clearly, they weren't all in agreement on this strategy, but it's not majority rules, you only need 8 defectors.

When there's a third party challenge, it ALWAYS takes votes from Democrats because they're the big tent party. It's a weakness. There's not going to be any break in Republican power until their party eventually splinters as well.

Meanwhile, am I going to be back at work on Wednesday or next week?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My agency management is unlikely to support letting people use much leave before the end of the year. They pretty much said so before we shut down.

We are going to be buried in work through the holidays.

I'd be ok with that if they'd let me carry it over to next year. But I saved a lot of AL for a holiday trip this year, which i still haven't booked thanks to the shutdown, and I really don't want to lose it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They shut it down to elect 3 blue democrat governors hopefully the public will learn that it was a scam but people are stupid

I really hope they don’t think that. They won with good, sane candidates who weren’t too far left. That’s the lesson that needs to be learned.