APS School Board Race

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not saying don’t listen to APE as constituents. But as the head of a union signing an official letter under both AEA’s and APE’s letterhead is more than just listening. It’s making a statement. June is obviously with APE. They have been divisive since the pandemic, and are close to the Youngkin administration in how they take leadership from him. (Remember that the whole cellphone brouhaha started with Youngkin’s EO.) And sorry, I’m not going to vote for June because of that. You go vote for whoever you’d like tho.

Instead of making assumptions, why don’t you just ask June directly about it? If you know anything about her, you know she’ll tell you her thoughts directly.

I do question the person who keeps coming to this page to spread false narrative about June being a Youngkin supporter. Do you know anything about her? Either you’re making a wild assumption or you’re blatantly spreading false information.

No one is saying that June directly supports Youngkin. People are pointing out the June as head of AEA willingly wrote a joint letter with APE, a group that supports Youngkin and that won't disclose who funds it. That's not what I want to see in a future school board member. We can judge our candidates based on their past actions and associations. She either agrees with APE or should have done more homework before teaming up with them. Either way, no thanks.

Does this argument work both ways? Am I to understand that because APE signed a letter with AEA they have now endorsed the entire AEA position? Does APE now support unlimited collective bargaining rights for teachers? Do they support AEA's position on salaries and pay increases in the coming years? AEA opposed in-person learning during COVID, so clearly we must assume that APE has repudiated those views. What other positions does AEA have that APE has now seemingly signed on to by agreeing with them on a single issue?

[Anonymous]

As we say in Germany, if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not saying don’t listen to APE as constituents. But as the head of a union signing an official letter under both AEA’s and APE’s letterhead is more than just listening. It’s making a statement. June is obviously with APE. They have been divisive since the pandemic, and are close to the Youngkin administration in how they take leadership from him. (Remember that the whole cellphone brouhaha started with Youngkin’s EO.) And sorry, I’m not going to vote for June because of that. You go vote for whoever you’d like tho.

Instead of making assumptions, why don’t you just ask June directly about it? If you know anything about her, you know she’ll tell you her thoughts directly.

I do question the person who keeps coming to this page to spread false narrative about June being a Youngkin supporter. Do you know anything about her? Either you’re making a wild assumption or you’re blatantly spreading false information.

I’m not that OP but thanks. I’ve already voted for Moe but thanks for your concern?

I’m not making any assumptions about June and Youngkin. There is an actual letter that June signed with a group whose members who parrot Youngkin’s BOE talking points. If she didn’t want that heat, AEA should have released their own statement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not saying don’t listen to APE as constituents. But as the head of a union signing an official letter under both AEA’s and APE’s letterhead is more than just listening. It’s making a statement. June is obviously with APE. They have been divisive since the pandemic, and are close to the Youngkin administration in how they take leadership from him. (Remember that the whole cellphone brouhaha started with Youngkin’s EO.) And sorry, I’m not going to vote for June because of that. You go vote for whoever you’d like tho.

Instead of making assumptions, why don’t you just ask June directly about it? If you know anything about her, you know she’ll tell you her thoughts directly.

I do question the person who keeps coming to this page to spread false narrative about June being a Youngkin supporter. Do you know anything about her? Either you’re making a wild assumption or you’re blatantly spreading false information.

No one is saying that June directly supports Youngkin. People are pointing out the June as head of AEA willingly wrote a joint letter with APE, a group that supports Youngkin and that won't disclose who funds it. That's not what I want to see in a future school board member. We can judge our candidates based on their past actions and associations. She either agrees with APE or should have done more homework before teaming up with them. Either way, no thanks.

Does this argument work both ways? Am I to understand that because APE signed a letter with AEA they have now endorsed the entire AEA position? Does APE now support unlimited collective bargaining rights for teachers? Do they support AEA's position on salaries and pay increases in the coming years? AEA opposed in-person learning during COVID, so clearly we must assume that APE has repudiated those views. What other positions does AEA have that APE has now seemingly signed on to by agreeing with them on a single issue?

APE is deceptive. They will say whatever they need to say to get what they want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not saying don’t listen to APE as constituents. But as the head of a union signing an official letter under both AEA’s and APE’s letterhead is more than just listening. It’s making a statement. June is obviously with APE. They have been divisive since the pandemic, and are close to the Youngkin administration in how they take leadership from him. (Remember that the whole cellphone brouhaha started with Youngkin’s EO.) And sorry, I’m not going to vote for June because of that. You go vote for whoever you’d like tho.

You should be careful who you get in bed with. It might have consequences. We're paying attention.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not saying don’t listen to APE as constituents. But as the head of a union signing an official letter under both AEA’s and APE’s letterhead is more than just listening. It’s making a statement. June is obviously with APE. They have been divisive since the pandemic, and are close to the Youngkin administration in how they take leadership from him. (Remember that the whole cellphone brouhaha started with Youngkin’s EO.) And sorry, I’m not going to vote for June because of that. You go vote for whoever you’d like tho.

Instead of making assumptions, why don’t you just ask June directly about it? If you know anything about her, you know she’ll tell you her thoughts directly.

I do question the person who keeps coming to this page to spread false narrative about June being a Youngkin supporter. Do you know anything about her? Either you’re making a wild assumption or you’re blatantly spreading false information.

No one is saying that June directly supports Youngkin. People are pointing out the June as head of AEA willingly wrote a joint letter with APE, a group that supports Youngkin and that won't disclose who funds it. That's not what I want to see in a future school board member. We can judge our candidates based on their past actions and associations. She either agrees with APE or should have done more homework before teaming up with them. Either way, no thanks.

Does this argument work both ways? Am I to understand that because APE signed a letter with AEA they have now endorsed the entire AEA position? Does APE now support unlimited collective bargaining rights for teachers? Do they support AEA's position on salaries and pay increases in the coming years? AEA opposed in-person learning during COVID, so clearly we must assume that APE has repudiated those views. What other positions does AEA have that APE has now seemingly signed on to by agreeing with them on a single issue?

Good point, but Moe's crew on here just seems to want to bash June... which makes me question why they think she can't stand on her own as a candidate?

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Anonymous wrote:This letter links June directly with APE's board. It's not a large step to take to think that she'll be very friendly to them and their views as a SB member.

So agree with getting cell phones out of schools, which is what AEA was fighting for, but think of it as a negative for June because of who she as President of AEA had to work with? Ok, lol.

HAD to work with, lol? How exactly was June forced to work with APE? Please explain.

She signed the letter willingly. That’s worse. Sorry APE supporters but a lot of us in the community are tired of you, and your interjection into advocacy and board races will affect the candidates running.

I was really put off by the way APE behaved during Covid, but I truly see nothing wrong with this letter. The vast majority of parents and educators know we need to get cell phones out of the classroom. There is nothing wrong with teaming together for the greater good. Even the Democrats are going to need to rely on Republicans to get the mess DT has done to our country turned around. Some of you are really willing to cut off your nose to spite your face.

They could easily have put out a letter on their own. It’s telling that they did it with APE.

There is another (better) candidate. Our noses are fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not saying don’t listen to APE as constituents. But as the head of a union signing an official letter under both AEA’s and APE’s letterhead is more than just listening. It’s making a statement. June is obviously with APE. They have been divisive since the pandemic, and are close to the Youngkin administration in how they take leadership from him. (Remember that the whole cellphone brouhaha started with Youngkin’s EO.) And sorry, I’m not going to vote for June because of that. You go vote for whoever you’d like tho.

Instead of making assumptions, why don’t you just ask June directly about it? If you know anything about her, you know she’ll tell you her thoughts directly.

I do question the person who keeps coming to this page to spread false narrative about June being a Youngkin supporter. Do you know anything about her? Either you’re making a wild assumption or you’re blatantly spreading false information.

No one is saying that June directly supports Youngkin. People are pointing out the June as head of AEA willingly wrote a joint letter with APE, a group that supports Youngkin and that won't disclose who funds it. That's not what I want to see in a future school board member. We can judge our candidates based on their past actions and associations. She either agrees with APE or should have done more homework before teaming up with them. Either way, no thanks.

Does this argument work both ways? Am I to understand that because APE signed a letter with AEA they have now endorsed the entire AEA position? Does APE now support unlimited collective bargaining rights for teachers? Do they support AEA's position on salaries and pay increases in the coming years? AEA opposed in-person learning during COVID, so clearly we must assume that APE has repudiated those views. What other positions does AEA have that APE has now seemingly signed on to by agreeing with them on a single issue?

APE is deceptive. They will say whatever they need to say to get what they want.

Just like many posters here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not saying don’t listen to APE as constituents. But as the head of a union signing an official letter under both AEA’s and APE’s letterhead is more than just listening. It’s making a statement. June is obviously with APE. They have been divisive since the pandemic, and are close to the Youngkin administration in how they take leadership from him. (Remember that the whole cellphone brouhaha started with Youngkin’s EO.) And sorry, I’m not going to vote for June because of that. You go vote for whoever you’d like tho.

Instead of making assumptions, why don’t you just ask June directly about it? If you know anything about her, you know she’ll tell you her thoughts directly.

I do question the person who keeps coming to this page to spread false narrative about June being a Youngkin supporter. Do you know anything about her? Either you’re making a wild assumption or you’re blatantly spreading false information.

No one is saying that June directly supports Youngkin. People are pointing out the June as head of AEA willingly wrote a joint letter with APE, a group that supports Youngkin and that won't disclose who funds it. That's not what I want to see in a future school board member. We can judge our candidates based on their past actions and associations. She either agrees with APE or should have done more homework before teaming up with them. Either way, no thanks.

Does this argument work both ways? Am I to understand that because APE signed a letter with AEA they have now endorsed the entire AEA position? Does APE now support unlimited collective bargaining rights for teachers? Do they support AEA's position on salaries and pay increases in the coming years? AEA opposed in-person learning during COVID, so clearly we must assume that APE has repudiated those views. What other positions does AEA have that APE has now seemingly signed on to by agreeing with them on a single issue?

Good point, but Moe's crew on here just seems to want to bash June... which makes me question why they think she can't stand on her own as a candidate?

Republicans love to shift blame. She is responsible for her own actions. Teaming with APE has consequences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not saying don’t listen to APE as constituents. But as the head of a union signing an official letter under both AEA’s and APE’s letterhead is more than just listening. It’s making a statement. June is obviously with APE. They have been divisive since the pandemic, and are close to the Youngkin administration in how they take leadership from him. (Remember that the whole cellphone brouhaha started with Youngkin’s EO.) And sorry, I’m not going to vote for June because of that. You go vote for whoever you’d like tho.

Instead of making assumptions, why don’t you just ask June directly about it? If you know anything about her, you know she’ll tell you her thoughts directly.

I do question the person who keeps coming to this page to spread false narrative about June being a Youngkin supporter. Do you know anything about her? Either you’re making a wild assumption or you’re blatantly spreading false information.

No one is saying that June directly supports Youngkin. People are pointing out the June as head of AEA willingly wrote a joint letter with APE, a group that supports Youngkin and that won't disclose who funds it. That's not what I want to see in a future school board member. We can judge our candidates based on their past actions and associations. She either agrees with APE or should have done more homework before teaming up with them. Either way, no thanks.

Does this argument work both ways? Am I to understand that because APE signed a letter with AEA they have now endorsed the entire AEA position? Does APE now support unlimited collective bargaining rights for teachers? Do they support AEA's position on salaries and pay increases in the coming years? AEA opposed in-person learning during COVID, so clearly we must assume that APE has repudiated those views. What other positions does AEA have that APE has now seemingly signed on to by agreeing with them on a single issue?

APE is deceptive. They will say whatever they need to say to get what they want.

Just like many posters here.

Yes, APE lies whenever they can.

Her actions are clear. No need for interpretation.

[Anonymous]

The orange skidmark is indelible.

There is no coming back from supporting Trump, Youngkin, or APE.

We will never forget what you did to our schools, our community, our state, and our country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As we say in Germany, if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.

Yes, because APE is definitely analogous to genocidal fascists responsible for the worst crimes of the 20th century. Get over yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not saying don’t listen to APE as constituents. But as the head of a union signing an official letter under both AEA’s and APE’s letterhead is more than just listening. It’s making a statement. June is obviously with APE. They have been divisive since the pandemic, and are close to the Youngkin administration in how they take leadership from him. (Remember that the whole cellphone brouhaha started with Youngkin’s EO.) And sorry, I’m not going to vote for June because of that. You go vote for whoever you’d like tho.

Instead of making assumptions, why don’t you just ask June directly about it? If you know anything about her, you know she’ll tell you her thoughts directly.

I do question the person who keeps coming to this page to spread false narrative about June being a Youngkin supporter. Do you know anything about her? Either you’re making a wild assumption or you’re blatantly spreading false information.

No one is saying that June directly supports Youngkin. People are pointing out the June as head of AEA willingly wrote a joint letter with APE, a group that supports Youngkin and that won't disclose who funds it. That's not what I want to see in a future school board member. We can judge our candidates based on their past actions and associations. She either agrees with APE or should have done more homework before teaming up with them. Either way, no thanks.

Does this argument work both ways? Am I to understand that because APE signed a letter with AEA they have now endorsed the entire AEA position? Does APE now support unlimited collective bargaining rights for teachers? Do they support AEA's position on salaries and pay increases in the coming years? AEA opposed in-person learning during COVID, so clearly we must assume that APE has repudiated those views. What other positions does AEA have that APE has now seemingly signed on to by agreeing with them on a single issue?

APE is deceptive. They will say whatever they need to say to get what they want.

And June has already showed that she falls for what APE says. We already have one board member associated with APE. We really don't need a second.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As we say in Germany, if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.

Yes, because APE is definitely analogous to genocidal fascists responsible for the worst crimes of the 20th century. Get over yourself.

Okay, how's this:

As we say in Arlington, if there's an APE at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 APEs.

Better?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not saying don’t listen to APE as constituents. But as the head of a union signing an official letter under both AEA’s and APE’s letterhead is more than just listening. It’s making a statement. June is obviously with APE. They have been divisive since the pandemic, and are close to the Youngkin administration in how they take leadership from him. (Remember that the whole cellphone brouhaha started with Youngkin’s EO.) And sorry, I’m not going to vote for June because of that. You go vote for whoever you’d like tho.

Instead of making assumptions, why don’t you just ask June directly about it? If you know anything about her, you know she’ll tell you her thoughts directly.

I do question the person who keeps coming to this page to spread false narrative about June being a Youngkin supporter. Do you know anything about her? Either you’re making a wild assumption or you’re blatantly spreading false information.

No one is saying that June directly supports Youngkin. People are pointing out the June as head of AEA willingly wrote a joint letter with APE, a group that supports Youngkin and that won't disclose who funds it. That's not what I want to see in a future school board member. We can judge our candidates based on their past actions and associations. She either agrees with APE or should have done more homework before teaming up with them. Either way, no thanks.

Does this argument work both ways? Am I to understand that because APE signed a letter with AEA they have now endorsed the entire AEA position? Does APE now support unlimited collective bargaining rights for teachers? Do they support AEA's position on salaries and pay increases in the coming years? AEA opposed in-person learning during COVID, so clearly we must assume that APE has repudiated those views. What other positions does AEA have that APE has now seemingly signed on to by agreeing with them on a single issue?

Good point, but Moe's crew on here just seems to want to bash June... which makes me question why they think she can't stand on her own as a candidate?

I'm not part of Moe's crew. I never heard of Moe before this election. I am going to vote for Moe though. June co-writing a letter with APE was definitely a factor I considered.