Man killed in Tyson’s Corner shooting

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Barbaric? Go to the other thread about stealing. It should be fine to just walk in to a store and take stuff, amirite?

It's really not asking too much to ask police not to summarily execute unarmed shoplifting suspects pre-trial.

I want this crocheted on a throw pillow.

[Anonymous]

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Barbaric? Go to the other thread about stealing. It should be fine to just walk in to a store and take stuff, amirite?

It's really not asking too much to ask police not to summarily execute unarmed shoplifting suspects pre-trial.

Imagine if IRS agents did this because you screwed up on your taxes by $600. Is that also OK?

Agents of government should not be executing people in public. Police are agents of government.

At one time, the IRS had an enforcement arm. But Congress defunded them so they wouldn't have to live in fear of getting caught anymore.

Hmm, allegedly the husband who shot the man who stabbed his wife in Herndon yesterday was an IRS special agent (packing).

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Anonymous wrote:He had just been released from jail on a parole violation. He wasn’t stealing food or diapers for his 2 children. Instead, he was stealing designer sunglasses. I hope that these poor policeman don’t lose their jobs.

I hope they go to prison. You don’t shoot unarmed people for shoplifting, period. At a minimum they should be fired for incompetence.

You are everything that is wrong with our criminal justice system and the reason why crime of all types continues to increase in this country. He wasn’t shot because he was shoplifting and he wasn’t a victim. He was shot, because when the police tried to apprehend for shoplifting, he ran. He was a lifelong criminal with a long and violent history. The police shouldn’t have to risk their lives chasing him into the woods only to have him pull out a weapon and kill them. No sympathy for this POS.

Spoken like somebody who has no idea how law enforcement works. There was no threat to life. The Chief of Police said they have no located a weapon. The man was running from the cops who coincidentally keeping killing unarmed people.

With the increase in gun violence at Tysons, with the recent armed carjackings in Fairfax County, I expect there's a push to come down hard on crime here. DC, Maryland, Loudoun County may be fine with skyrocketing crime statistics but we are not.

Go crime somewhere else.

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I hope this acts as a deterrent

It won’t.

It will.

There's a reason that crime is so low in Nova and in Fairfax county in particular.

^^^. Not because the police usually shoot criminals, they don't. But we prosecute them her. No Savage is facing 7 counts and up to 45 years in prison.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He had just been released from jail on a parole violation. He wasn’t stealing food or diapers for his 2 children. Instead, he was stealing designer sunglasses. I hope that these poor policeman don’t lose their jobs.

I hope they go to prison. You don’t shoot unarmed people for shoplifting, period. At a minimum they should be fired for incompetence.

You are everything that is wrong with our criminal justice system and the reason why crime of all types continues to increase in this country. He wasn’t shot because he was shoplifting and he wasn’t a victim. He was shot, because when the police tried to apprehend for shoplifting, he ran. He was a lifelong criminal with a long and violent history. The police shouldn’t have to risk their lives chasing him into the woods only to have him pull out a weapon and kill them. No sympathy for this POS.

DP. But why do the police have to chase a shoplifter/thief, even if they’re a career criminal in the first place, let alone shoot them? If the cops already knew who he was, or had their eye on him, as one of the articles suggested, why not just apprehend him at his home later? Chases should be for more serious crimes like murder, rape, serious assault, etc.

[Anonymous]

I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

Move to Saudi Arabia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

Move to Saudi Arabia

OR, and stay with me here, I can stay in THIS country and have a different opinion from you. See how that works?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Barbaric? Go to the other thread about stealing. It should be fine to just walk in to a store and take stuff, amirite?

It's really not asking too much to ask police not to summarily execute unarmed shoplifting suspects pre-trial.

Imagine if IRS agents did this because you screwed up on your taxes by $600. Is that also OK?

Agents of government should not be executing people in public. Police are agents of government.

This is a ridiculous analogy. Screwing up your taxes is not a violent crime that can result in the death or bodily harm of others. It is not an immediate physical threat to society.

An armed assault is, and should be treated differently.

This guy was a known criminal. He'd been let go before and back to do the same thing and worse. His criminal streak and luck finally ran out. All of you PPs upset over this, tell your children that when you lead a life full of violent crime, there's a risk of death.
At least he won't be committing any more crimes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Shooting at fleeing suspects has been illegal in the US since Tennessee v. Garner in 1985. Yet police do it anyways. Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

Move to Saudi Arabia

OR, and stay with me here, I can stay in THIS country and have a different opinion from you. See how that works?

If you don’t believe in due process and don’t understand its importance, America is not the country for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

I fully support the police but if this guy was just running I fully do not understand why deadly force was used.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they don't trust the cops to not shoot them anyways. It doesn't matter anyway. There's no reason that would justify being executed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that if anyone has a violent criminal history, and are in process of committing any crime, it is very reasonable to assume they have a weapon on them (even if they do not). Therefore, I think appropriate policy would be to allow the shooting of any violent criminal in commission of a crime.

1) We only know the victim had a "violent criminal history" because the cops said so. It's not clear yet what that history is.

2) We don't know yet whether the officers who pursued him on foot knew his criminal history when they started pursuing him.

3) Shoplifting plastic "designer" sunglasses is not a violent crime.

4) Human beings should not be executed by police for stealing without the benefit of due process. White collar criminals certainly aren't.

Fastest way to get shot by police is to run when they tell you to stop. Yet criminals do it anyways. Why?

Because they're afraid?