Is this CRT?

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Anonymous wrote:Technically no, but it’s what people are referring to when they talk about CRT in k-12 education.

A lot of parents don’t think public schools should teach students to be “agents of social change”. They expect their kids to be taught skills like math and reading, and facts like science and social studies. Creating social change agents seems outside of that mission.

This is where it gets hairy. A lot of what's being taught in social studies is not facts but someone's interpretation of facts, especially in k-12.

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Parents want social studies to be as uncontroversial as possible until maybe high school. Facts like George Washington was our first president isn’t very controversial. Explaining how the three branches of government work isn’t very controversial.

A lot of people feel heavier topics like race discussions should wait until high school. People don’t want to see it in elementary school. Elementary schools shouldn’t be a battleground.

[Anonymous]

Yes, this is exactly what people are complaining about when they tail against CRT in schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Technically no, but it’s what people are referring to when they talk about CRT in k-12 education.

A lot of parents don’t think public schools should teach students to be “agents of social change”. They expect their kids to be taught skills like math and reading, and facts like science and social studies. Creating social change agents seems outside of that mission.

This is where it gets hairy. A lot of what's being taught in social studies is not facts but someone's interpretation of facts, especially in k-12.

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Parents want social studies to be as uncontroversial as possible until maybe high school. Facts like George Washington was our first president isn’t very controversial. Explaining how the three branches of government work isn’t very controversial.

A lot of people feel heavier topics like race discussions should wait until high school. People don’t want to see it in elementary school. Elementary schools shouldn’t be a battleground.

A “battleground”?

Uncomfortable facts are still facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Technically no, but it’s what people are referring to when they talk about CRT in k-12 education.

A lot of parents don’t think public schools should teach students to be “agents of social change”. They expect their kids to be taught skills like math and reading, and facts like science and social studies. Creating social change agents seems outside of that mission.

This is where it gets hairy. A lot of what's being taught in social studies is not facts but someone's interpretation of facts, especially in k-12.

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Parents want social studies to be as uncontroversial as possible until maybe high school. Facts like George Washington was our first president isn’t very controversial. Explaining how the three branches of government work isn’t very controversial.

A lot of people feel heavier topics like race discussions should wait until high school. People don’t want to see it in elementary school. Elementary schools shouldn’t be a battleground.

A “battleground”?

Uncomfortable facts are still facts.

I agree with PP, they stated my feelings as well. There are plenty of uncomfortable facts that are appropriate for grade school, and others that can be effectively discussed when children are older.

Starting from a common base of shared understanding is a foundation. Starting from a state of discomfort, as well as battleground, is not a foundation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Technically no, but it’s what people are referring to when they talk about CRT in k-12 education.

A lot of parents don’t think public schools should teach students to be “agents of social change”. They expect their kids to be taught skills like math and reading, and facts like science and social studies. Creating social change agents seems outside of that mission.

This is where it gets hairy. A lot of what's being taught in social studies is not facts but someone's interpretation of facts, especially in k-12.

+1

Parents want social studies to be as uncontroversial as possible until maybe high school. Facts like George Washington was our first president isn’t very controversial. Explaining how the three branches of government work isn’t very controversial.

A lot of people feel heavier topics like race discussions should wait until high school. People don’t want to see it in elementary school. Elementary schools shouldn’t be a battleground.

A “battleground”?

Uncomfortable facts are still facts.

Those controversial facts can wait until the children are older and more independent.

[Anonymous]

If a child asks what Harriet Tubman was running from, what are teachers going to tell them? She was training people for a marathon?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If a child asks what Harriet Tubman was running from, what are teachers going to tell them? She was training people for a marathon?

I don’t think the mere mention of slavery is necessarily controversial. You can answer quickly and move on with the curriculum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Technically no, but it’s what people are referring to when they talk about CRT in k-12 education.

A lot of parents don’t think public schools should teach students to be “agents of social change”. They expect their kids to be taught skills like math and reading, and facts like science and social studies. Creating social change agents seems outside of that mission.

This is where it gets hairy. A lot of what's being taught in social studies is not facts but someone's interpretation of facts, especially in k-12.

+1

Parents want social studies to be as uncontroversial as possible until maybe high school. Facts like George Washington was our first president isn’t very controversial. Explaining how the three branches of government work isn’t very controversial.

A lot of people feel heavier topics like race discussions should wait until high school. People don’t want to see it in elementary school. Elementary schools shouldn’t be a battleground.

A “battleground”?

Uncomfortable facts are still facts.

And overcoming discomfort is learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Technically no, but it’s what people are referring to when they talk about CRT in k-12 education.

A lot of parents don’t think public schools should teach students to be “agents of social change”. They expect their kids to be taught skills like math and reading, and facts like science and social studies. Creating social change agents seems outside of that mission.

This is where it gets hairy. A lot of what's being taught in social studies is not facts but someone's interpretation of facts, especially in k-12.

+1

Parents want social studies to be as uncontroversial as possible until maybe high school. Facts like George Washington was our first president isn’t very controversial. Explaining how the three branches of government work isn’t very controversial.

A lot of people feel heavier topics like race discussions should wait until high school. People don’t want to see it in elementary school. Elementary schools shouldn’t be a battleground.

A “battleground”?

Uncomfortable facts are still facts.

Those controversial facts can wait until the children are older and more independent.

How exactly are they "controversial"?

Because some people doesn't like to feel uncomfortable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Technically no, but it’s what people are referring to when they talk about CRT in k-12 education.

A lot of parents don’t think public schools should teach students to be “agents of social change”. They expect their kids to be taught skills like math and reading, and facts like science and social studies. Creating social change agents seems outside of that mission.

This is where it gets hairy. A lot of what's being taught in social studies is not facts but someone's interpretation of facts, especially in k-12.

+1

Parents want social studies to be as uncontroversial as possible until maybe high school. Facts like George Washington was our first president isn’t very controversial. Explaining how the three branches of government work isn’t very controversial.

A lot of people feel heavier topics like race discussions should wait until high school. People don’t want to see it in elementary school. Elementary schools shouldn’t be a battleground.

A “battleground”?

Uncomfortable facts are still facts.

I agree with PP, they stated my feelings as well. There are plenty of uncomfortable facts that are appropriate for grade school, and others that can be effectively discussed when children are older.

Starting from a common base of shared understanding is a foundation. Starting from a state of discomfort, as well as battleground, is not a foundation.

Examples of what you think should not be taught in elementary school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Technically no, but it’s what people are referring to when they talk about CRT in k-12 education.

A lot of parents don’t think public schools should teach students to be “agents of social change”. They expect their kids to be taught skills like math and reading, and facts like science and social studies. Creating social change agents seems outside of that mission.

This is where it gets hairy. A lot of what's being taught in social studies is not facts but someone's interpretation of facts, especially in k-12.

+1

Parents want social studies to be as uncontroversial as possible until maybe high school. Facts like George Washington was our first president isn’t very controversial. Explaining how the three branches of government work isn’t very controversial.

A lot of people feel heavier topics like race discussions should wait until high school. People don’t want to see it in elementary school. Elementary schools shouldn’t be a battleground.

A “battleground”?

Uncomfortable facts are still facts.

Those controversial facts can wait until the children are older and more independent.

How exactly are they "controversial"?

Because some people doesn't like to feel uncomfortable?

Anything that causes hundreds or thousands of people to get angry is by definition controversial. We don’t need that in Elementary schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Technically no, but it’s what people are referring to when they talk about CRT in k-12 education.

A lot of parents don’t think public schools should teach students to be “agents of social change”. They expect their kids to be taught skills like math and reading, and facts like science and social studies. Creating social change agents seems outside of that mission.

This is where it gets hairy. A lot of what's being taught in social studies is not facts but someone's interpretation of facts, especially in k-12.

+1

Parents want social studies to be as uncontroversial as possible until maybe high school. Facts like George Washington was our first president isn’t very controversial. Explaining how the three branches of government work isn’t very controversial.

A lot of people feel heavier topics like race discussions should wait until high school. People don’t want to see it in elementary school. Elementary schools shouldn’t be a battleground.

A “battleground”?

Uncomfortable facts are still facts.

Those controversial facts can wait until the children are older and more independent.

How exactly are they "controversial"?

Because some people doesn't like to feel uncomfortable?

Anything that causes hundreds or thousands of people to get angry is by definition controversial. We don’t need that in Elementary schools.

What specifically is making them angry?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If a child asks what Harriet Tubman was running from, what are teachers going to tell them? She was training people for a marathon?

Do you have a child? Do you know what children in the DMV learn in grade school? They learn all about Harriet Tubman and slavery. Less about the Civil Movement and more current issues.

A couple years ago, my then 3rd grader was ready to declare war on the North to free the slaves. We had to tell him that was already done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe not CRT but the term “intersectionality” is a buzzword for woke pablum.

I’m pretty liberal, but my eyes automatically roll when I hear that word.

It’s jargon but it just means everyone has their own experiences with discrimination and consideration should be given to things that affect marginalized people. It rubs some white people the wrong way because they have never experienced discrimination and can’t relate. They also probably consider themselves to be good people and can’t separate that from acknowledging the system is set up to benefit them, which is why they can’t relate to the discrimination marginalized people experience.

Contradict much?

No. White people don’t experience discrimination.

You think “rednecks” and “traitor trash” don’t experience discrimination? How about Jewish people? Mormons?

Then you wonder why people are wary of progressives. Many progressives can’t see beyond their own worldview.

How about, um, women. Women (yes, even white women) experience discrimination regularly. If you don’t, you’re either not paying attention or so accustomed to it, you don’t notice anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If a child asks what Harriet Tubman was running from, what are teachers going to tell them? She was training people for a marathon?

Do you have a child? Do you know what children in the DMV learn in grade school? They learn all about Harriet Tubman and slavery. Less about the Civil Movement and more current issues.

A couple years ago, my then 3rd grader was ready to declare war on the North to free the slaves. We had to tell him that was already done.

^^^ From the North, not on the North.

This is in Nova, btw.