Gen Z has been warped by social media and victimhood culture: Jonathan haidt

[Anonymous]

Generation Z are seriously the most educated stupids on this ship we call Earth.
One way you can tell is that phone stuck to their hand 24/7. They cannot do a damn thing without consulting that phone.
The gimme I want generation who thinks they are owed something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Generation Z are seriously the most educated stupids on this ship we call Earth.
One way you can tell is that phone stuck to their hand 24/7. They cannot do a damn thing without consulting that phone.
The gimme I want generation who thinks they are owed something.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Generation Z are seriously the most educated stupids on this ship we call Earth.
One way you can tell is that phone stuck to their hand 24/7. They cannot do a damn thing without consulting that phone.
The gimme I want generation who thinks they are owed something.

Inflammatory and unhelpful - reported

You are a millennial?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Generation Z are seriously the most educated stupids on this ship we call Earth.
One way you can tell is that phone stuck to their hand 24/7. They cannot do a damn thing without consulting that phone.
The gimme I want generation who thinks they are owed something.

Inflammatory and unhelpful - reported

You are a millennial?

I don't know what PP is but I would assume that there are people in every generation who find that comment inflammatory and unhelpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Generation Z are seriously the most educated stupids on this ship we call Earth.
One way you can tell is that phone stuck to their hand 24/7. They cannot do a damn thing without consulting that phone.
The gimme I want generation who thinks they are owed something.

Sadly, I have to agree with this characterization.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read it but DH did and Haidt apparently said that haidt thinks that it should be illegal for kids under 16 to have social media.

I cannot take Haidt seriously since he said that college students are babies because a few college students wanted an absurd level of trigger warnings, but I’d love it if we could somehow stop kids under 16 from having social media. A broken clock is right twice a day.

Have you been on the parenting forums lately? I'm not on any social media (does DCUM count?) and I'll discourage my kids from getting on as long as I can, but huge swaths of good parents are allowing their 11/12/13 year olds on social media for various reasons. It's not like driving a car. Parents should make this decision.

5th grade teacher here. Pretty much ch all of my students have phones. Parents do not seem to be monitoring them or limiting them in any way. They talk about being on their phones in the middle of the night. It terrifies me to think about what these kids are being exposed to in their own rooms in the middle of the night. And they can barely keep their eyes open all day because they were up all night.

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Anonymous wrote:Generation Z are seriously the most educated stupids on this ship we call Earth.
One way you can tell is that phone stuck to their hand 24/7. They cannot do a damn thing without consulting that phone.
The gimme I want generation who thinks they are owed something.

Inflammatory and unhelpful - reported

You are a millennial?

I don't know what PP is but I would assume that there are people in every generation who find that comment inflammatory and unhelpful.

But who would actually whine about it and report it?

[Anonymous]

Liberal mom of 3 Gen Zers here. I think Gen Z is awesome, and I can’t wait to see how they change the world. However, I do have concerns. Their need to put extreme labels in everything seems unhealthy. Everything is a noun to them and nothing is a verb or adverb.

For example, there is a difference between depressed and depression. You can feel depressed without having depression. Of course I know that depression is real and has become more common due to social media and covid. But I also think that people who are going through a rough season are sometimes quick to label themselves as having depression and then they feel limited in what they can take on because they feel the need to protect their mental health. When, in reality, they might have just been sad for good reason.

Another example is labeling their sexuality. College kids experimenting with partners of the same sex has always been a thing. Now they can’t just have fun and experiment without having to decide if they are gay, straight, or bi and then announce that label to the world. Nothing wrong at all with declaring your sexuality to the world if thats what you truly want to do. But that doesn’t mean every college girl who got drunk and made out with her roommate needs to feel obligated to add “Bi” to her ig profile. This border on cultural appropriation and I do know lots of LQBTQ people who are affected because coming out was a difficult and monumental time in their lives, so they feel that these labels are not always being used and taken seriously.

I also see a lot of Gen Zers on tiktok discussing their “childhood trauma” and how it has affected them. Obviously, many people have had real trauma that has absolutely affected them. But an example of this childhood trauma I’ve heard is a girl talking about her trauma of having to complete the six week soccer session that she asked to sign up for but then quickly realized she hated soccer. She calls this trauma because it was the last sport she tried. She went on to say that her sister also wanted to quit the session at first. But by the time the 6 weeks was over, sis loved it and went on to play through college. This wasn’t trauma. It was a valid parenting decision that ended up helping one kid realize how much she loves the sport and helped the other kid realize she doesn’t love sports at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't take this thread seriously. My 13 yo is Gen Z and his only concern right now is really just sports and seeing his friends. You don't really know what this Gen will be like until another decade in.

It's like predicting how the 1962 Boomers would be based on the 1948 Boomers.

I think you might be missing the point here. Can you tell us:

- does your 13 year-old actually “see” his friends in person, and spend time in their physical presence, talking or doing other activities?

Or, are the majority of his interactions through social media “friends?”

There is a significant difference.

Yes, he sees his friends in person. He's not really sophisticated enough for online activities to replace in person. He does get to play online games with his friends once a week for several hours.

He's not in social media yet, just texting using his school computer. (Really, he doesn't have a finsta account or anything. For various reasons, he's very truthful.) He may be an anomaly amongst his friends but amongst our friends, some who work in IT and such, they are raising their kids with a wary eye on social media.

But then again, I'm GenX. I remember a time before all of this. I'd like to give that awareness to my kid.

The fact that you said he doesn’t have a finsta account tells me that you are already about 3 years behind on keeping up with what kids are doing on sm. Nobody has had a finsta since 2019. If you do a deep dive into his phone and computer, I can almost promise you that you will eventually uncover apps, accounts, and ways of communicating that you had absolutely no clue about. Trust me on this. They have workarounds for everything. It’s almost impossible to keep up, but we have to try.

[Anonymous]

My 43 year old, Gen X husband is WAY more addicted to his phone than any Gen Z kid I've ever seen.

Agree that phones are a problem, but everyone whining about Gen Z needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror. How many of you are hooked on DCUM and check it multiple times a day?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Generation Z are seriously the most educated stupids on this ship we call Earth.
One way you can tell is that phone stuck to their hand 24/7. They cannot do a damn thing without consulting that phone.
The gimme I want generation who thinks they are owed something.

Inflammatory and unhelpful - reported

You are a millennial?

I don't know what PP is but I would assume that there are people in every generation who find that comment inflammatory and unhelpful.

But who would actually whine about it and report it?

Seriously.

[NP]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Generation Z are seriously the most educated stupids on this ship we call Earth.
One way you can tell is that phone stuck to their hand 24/7. They cannot do a damn thing without consulting that phone.
The gimme I want generation who thinks they are owed something.

Lolol, just a few short years ago people said the same thing word for word about millennials. Come on, can’t you come up with something slightly new about the younger generation? So lazy!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Generation Z are seriously the most educated stupids on this ship we call Earth.
One way you can tell is that phone stuck to their hand 24/7. They cannot do a damn thing without consulting that phone.
The gimme I want generation who thinks they are owed something.

Lolol, just a few short years ago people said the same thing word for word about millennials. Come on, can’t you come up with something slightly new about the younger generation? So lazy!

Uh no. Your unoriginal reply proves the point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Generation Z are seriously the most educated stupids on this ship we call Earth.
One way you can tell is that phone stuck to their hand 24/7. They cannot do a damn thing without consulting that phone.
The gimme I want generation who thinks they are owed something.

Lolol, just a few short years ago people said the same thing word for word about millennials. Come on, can’t you come up with something slightly new about the younger generation? So lazy!

Uh no. Your unoriginal reply proves the point.

Oh dear. How does any reply from me, a millennial, prove any point whatsoever about Gen Z and their phones and entitlement?

As the kids would say, the logic ain’t logicking

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Liberal mom of 3 Gen Zers here. I think Gen Z is awesome, and I can’t wait to see how they change the world. However, I do have concerns. Their need to put extreme labels in everything seems unhealthy. Everything is a noun to them and nothing is a verb or adverb.

For example, there is a difference between depressed and depression. You can feel depressed without having depression. Of course I know that depression is real and has become more common due to social media and covid. But I also think that people who are going through a rough season are sometimes quick to label themselves as having depression and then they feel limited in what they can take on because they feel the need to protect their mental health. When, in reality, they might have just been sad for good reason.

Another example is labeling their sexuality. College kids experimenting with partners of the same sex has always been a thing. Now they can’t just have fun and experiment without having to decide if they are gay, straight, or bi and then announce that label to the world. Nothing wrong at all with declaring your sexuality to the world if thats what you truly want to do. But that doesn’t mean every college girl who got drunk and made out with her roommate needs to feel obligated to add “Bi” to her ig profile. This border on cultural appropriation and I do know lots of LQBTQ people who are affected because coming out was a difficult and monumental time in their lives, so they feel that these labels are not always being used and taken seriously.

I also see a lot of Gen Zers on tiktok discussing their “childhood trauma” and how it has affected them. Obviously, many people have had real trauma that has absolutely affected them. But an example of this childhood trauma I’ve heard is a girl talking about her trauma of having to complete the six week soccer session that she asked to sign up for but then quickly realized she hated soccer. She calls this trauma because it was the last sport she tried. She went on to say that her sister also wanted to quit the session at first. But by the time the 6 weeks was over, sis loved it and went on to play through college. This wasn’t trauma. It was a valid parenting decision that ended up helping one kid realize how much she loves the sport and helped the other kid realize she doesn’t love sports at all.

YES! This is exactly what I mean when I say Gen Z had some good ideas but went overboard. THIS is exactly how I feel too.