Career as a nurse -- DH has a prejudice against it

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Anonymous wrote:The nurses I know are well paid (one is a nurse practitioner) and have amazing flexibility, especially if you have children. It's one of the few professions where you can dial it back to PT (if you want) when you are raising children and then jump right back in later.

Our kids aren’t looking for mommy jobs — they may not get married, may not have kids, so we are focused on jobs where they will be the breadwinner. Wouldn’t nursing be a good option if they don’t go PT? I don’t think they will want to be traveling nurses, and I don’t want to count on another pandemic. But being like a pediatric hospital nurse should clear like $100k right?

OK fine, but why not steer them towards being a physician, software engineer, lawyer or an entrepreneur if breadwinning is the most important thing. What a weird post.

Why steer them at all if they know what they want to do? Sounds like op's dd has a plan and her husband should stay out of it.

I thought this site was 100% about not following your passion, and choosing a career with a clear ride view of the bottom line and how you will support yourself. A nurses job is equivalent to being a teacher, the start low, it’s a very demanding job, and will top out well below DC urban mom middle class. So in order to have a reasonable lifestyle, they will have to marry someone who makes a lot of money or get a job in some backwater where their salary will match the cost of living.

Not everyone believes that. I was the one mentioning the dd should state they want to be a stripper or pole dancer for the money and see what he says to nursing after that. No offense intended for any strippers or pole dancers.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry to revive but this is a relevant thread to me, right now, and my DC.

Curious for the poster or posters who claim that the path to NP or CRNA will be "oversaturated"? The BLS and some other career sites seem to say the opposite. I def recall hearing that anesthesia specialties are in demand and understaffed, currently.

Just wondering if I'm wrong or what people are seeing in real time on these sorts of advanced nursing paths?

Would like to hear this as well.

I assume what they’re saying is that that is well known, but those are paths high paying jobs, and the certification process is a very low bar so it will not be hard to build supply.

Also, there’s going to be automation with anesthesiology that may disrupt the whole job market there, It’s already happening in Canada, and then could be replaced by Telehealth or stuff like that where they cook you up with someone in a low cost of living area and basically run through a huge queue of patient on the phone

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He is right

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry to revive but this is a relevant thread to me, right now, and my DC.

Curious for the poster or posters who claim that the path to NP or CRNA will be "oversaturated"? The BLS and some other career sites seem to say the opposite. I def recall hearing that anesthesia specialties are in demand and understaffed, currently.

Just wondering if I'm wrong or what people are seeing in real time on these sorts of advanced nursing paths?

Would like to hear this as well.

I assume what they’re saying is that that is well known, but those are paths high paying jobs, and the certification process is a very low bar so it will not be hard to build supply.

Also, there’s going to be automation with anesthesiology that may disrupt the whole job market there, It’s already happening in Canada, and then could be replaced by Telehealth or stuff like that where they cook you up with someone in a low cost of living area and basically run through a huge queue of patient on the phone

Anesthesia will be automated???? And administered via telehealth? Huh?

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry to revive but this is a relevant thread to me, right now, and my DC.

Curious for the poster or posters who claim that the path to NP or CRNA will be "oversaturated"? The BLS and some other career sites seem to say the opposite. I def recall hearing that anesthesia specialties are in demand and understaffed, currently.

Just wondering if I'm wrong or what people are seeing in real time on these sorts of advanced nursing paths?

Would like to hear this as well.

I assume what they’re saying is that that is well known, but those are paths high paying jobs, and the certification process is a very low bar so it will not be hard to build supply.

Also, there’s going to be automation with anesthesiology that may disrupt the whole job market there, It’s already happening in Canada, and then could be replaced by Telehealth or stuff like that where they cook you up with someone in a low cost of living area and basically run through a huge queue of patient on the phone

Anesthesia will be automated???? And administered via telehealth? Huh?

Automated anesthesia
https://news.mit.edu/2023/anesthesia-technology-precisely-controls-unconsciousness-animal-tests-1107#:~:text=To%20solve%20the%20problem%2C%20researchers,drug%20propofol%20every%2020%20seconds.

Sorry, text to speech dropped my NP could be replaced by telehealth, basically instead of having an appt with an NP for your routine complaint, they would have one NP processing 2x or 3x the number of patients per hour by call center type telehealth. A lot of appts are very routine, and that's the domain of the NP.

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My dad was a nurse for 25 years. Both my SILs are nurses (married to doctors). One of them is a NP.

There are many different routes for nursing, some more highly compensated than others and some require much for education. After my dad's career, I ran as far away from nursing as possible. But, it worked for him and he always had plenty of ladies around given its a female dominate profession. When he was single, we were inundated with cookies, baked treats, books for me, and other stuff.

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I work in a hospital. Nurses are absolute rockstars. They run the show and spend much more time with the patients than the doctors.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a hospital. Nurses are absolute rockstars. They run the show and spend much more time with the patients than the doctors.

Sure they are! They have no choice because they're literally stuck with patients and responsible for them. Doctors don't have to interact with patients like nurses do. As a nurse, I noticed that most of the doctors run away from patients ( and their families) as much as they can, because it takes a lot of mental energy to be with patients.

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My mom was a nurse and I grew up surrounded by her many nursing friends. These women were smart and dedicated at a time when the profession was undervalued. By the end of her career, wages had risen considerably and she had many career options when she wanted to leave the hospital floor. These days I think it’s a great profession because it’s always in demand. Sure they might not make a super high wage but they do better than a lot of other professions that require more education.

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I'm a dental hygienist and make $60.00 an hour. I work 9-4 Monday-Thursday.

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Anonymous wrote:regular RN will not make 100k unless you become a travel nurse

this is not true at all.

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Anonymous wrote:OP's DD is considering pursuing a Nursing Degree right,
I thought with a nursing degree, you are not just a RN starting 50K?

Huh? This comment doesn't make any sense. A Bachelor of Science in Nursing makes one eligible to take the registered nurse licensing exam (NCLEX).

Right that the point, BSN-RN starting salary is much higher, not 50k mentioned here, I thought those are for nurse with diploma or associate degree only

nope, you're wrong. starting salaries are in that range for BSNs.

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Anonymous wrote:my DD has been working 5 years in the CVICU at the top pediatric heart hospital in america. they are paid hourly. started around 50k and has gotten several raises along the way. their raises might be $1 per hour or $2 per hour, so not great. i think she makes 70ish now. maybe a little more, but i am not sure. her job is very demanding, taking care of kids with heart defects and kids who need or have had heart transplants.

BTW it takes more than 2 years to become a nurse. most hospitals around her require a BSN, so that is about 60 hours of prereqs and then 1.5 - 2 years of nursing school.

And, you're wrong. At this point, hospitals DO hire ADN nurses, left and right.

not where i live. only the crummy hospitals hire ADNs.

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Anonymous wrote:DH grew up in a rural town where like the default path for a LOT of the women in his graduating class was to go into nursing. He wants to dissuade our DD from the field because he feels it is underpaid, over worked, and not given enough respect in the profession. He claims they barely break $100k, despite working long hard hours responsible dozens of patients.

My impression is that there is a nursing shortage, and I would expect salaries to rise to approach $150k or so, a solid professional salary. And if you go into a specialty, like CNP or CNA you can break $200k riveling pediatricans and internist salaries.

Love to hear stories of nurse careers to balance out my DH's long list of RNs scrapping by in rural Georgia!

Sorry, but 36 hours a week is not working long hard hours.

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a hospital. Nurses are absolute rockstars. They run the show and spend much more time with the patients than the doctors.

Sure they are! They have no choice because they're literally stuck with patients and responsible for them. Doctors don't have to interact with patients like nurses do. As a nurse, I noticed that most of the doctors run away from patients ( and their families) as much as they can, because it takes a lot of mental energy to be with patients.

no. it is because doctors are busy. There is a lot going on behind the scenes you do not see.