MoCo Needs to Reopen Restaurants

[Anonymous]

DC Opened restaurants last Friday, which believe was the first time DC is moving out of step with Moco. Virginia restaurants have been open. PP said that PG is opening. If someone wants to dine, there are many options for Moco residents now which defeats some of the purpose in Moco but definitely puts the small business owners in Moco at more of a disadvantage than the rest of the DMV. We know too many restaurants that have closed or won't make it much longer. Carry out margins are horrible. Gov't funds are near meaningless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC Opened restaurants last Friday, which believe was the first time DC is moving out of step with Moco. Virginia restaurants have been open. PP said that PG is opening. If someone wants to dine, there are many options for Moco residents now which defeats some of the purpose in Moco but definitely puts the small business owners in Moco at more of a disadvantage than the rest of the DMV. We know too many restaurants that have closed or won't make it much longer. Carry out margins are horrible. Gov't funds are near meaningless.

Totally correct PP. I am happy to be going out to a DC restaurant week this week and support my local restaurants. T

There is no winning this discussion. People continuously scream that 25% indoor dining will cause cases to soar. There is no real data to prove this because tracing has been sporadic and inconsistent throughout all states and modeling has been used and not actual data. I am not for full service openings and all for masks even while seated at the table not eating.

"Data from New York’s contact tracing efforts could be an indication of what’s happening in Pennsylvania, because the demographics of the two states are similar. In New York, restaurants and bars were linked to 1.43% of 46,000 COVID cases from September through November, the governor’s office announced recently.

About 74% of those cases were linked to household and social gatherings, with 0.06% traced to gyms."

https://www.mcall.com/opinion/mc-opi-restaurants-covid-indoor-dining-muschick-20201218-o62l57i4sbhrdasbqnl3aioxuy-story.html

So in my opinion, considering that 74% of COVID cases are linked to household and social gatherings, as supported by the Thanksgiving and Christmas surge, maybe it's the people who stay at home all the time with "family and friends" are the real problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what the purpose of opening them is -- do people really feel comfortable to sit inside and eat with masks off? I'm happy getting takeout.
I do wish more restaurants would repurpose their wait staff to do delivery. I hate grub hub and ubereats, and would order about 5x as often if I didn't have to get dressed to go pick it up.

We were in Snowshoe this weekend for skiing. My friends and I were able to sit at a bar, order a burger and have drinks. It was pretty awesome.

So, yeah, there are plenty of people who are comfortable eating inside with masks off. Get out of your bubble.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what the purpose of opening them is -- do people really feel comfortable to sit inside and eat with masks off? I'm happy getting takeout.
I do wish more restaurants would repurpose their wait staff to do delivery. I hate grub hub and ubereats, and would order about 5x as often if I didn't have to get dressed to go pick it up.

That's the part I get stuck on. I haven't eaten inside a restaurant since March, and the reason isn't the ban on indoor eating in restaurants. The reason is that I don't want to sit inside a building with my mask off, and a bunch of other people with their masks off, to eat.

Same here. We are doing a whole lot of Curbside Pickups.

[Anonymous]

The daily life as we know it has ended. The best thing to do is to embrace the change. We love the curbside pickups. We will continue to do that for at least another year of so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The daily life as we know it has ended. The best thing to do is to embrace the change. We love the curbside pickups. We will continue to do that for at least another year of so.

OMG, literally you will not do anything out of your home until 1/26/2022? Let's for once be a bit more positive with vaccines rolling out although not as quickly as we would all like. They will come, people will be vaccinated and daily life will go on. Has your life always been this hopeless?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what the purpose of opening them is -- do people really feel comfortable to sit inside and eat with masks off? I'm happy getting takeout.
I do wish more restaurants would repurpose their wait staff to do delivery. I hate grub hub and ubereats, and would order about 5x as often if I didn't have to get dressed to go pick it up.

We were in Snowshoe this weekend for skiing. My friends and I were able to sit at a bar, order a burger and have drinks. It was pretty awesome.

So, yeah, there are plenty of people who are comfortable eating inside with masks off. Get out of your bubble.

My kid's doing Zoom school in our living room and shouting across the yard at her grandparents, and you're flying to Snowshoe to eat hamburgers with friends indoors in bars apres-ski.

[Anonymous]

God. We are idiots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what the purpose of opening them is -- do people really feel comfortable to sit inside and eat with masks off? I'm happy getting takeout.
I do wish more restaurants would repurpose their wait staff to do delivery. I hate grub hub and ubereats, and would order about 5x as often if I didn't have to get dressed to go pick it up.

We were in Snowshoe this weekend for skiing. My friends and I were able to sit at a bar, order a burger and have drinks. It was pretty awesome.

So, yeah, there are plenty of people who are comfortable eating inside with masks off. Get out of your bubble.

My kid's doing Zoom school in our living room and shouting across the yard at her grandparents, and you're flying to Snowshoe to eat hamburgers with friends indoors in bars apres-ski.

Well, we drove.

But, yeah. The dirty little secret is that nothing we’ve done over the last 10 months to try and stop this pandemic were ever going to work. The so-called experts were flailing around. Regular Americans were sold a false bill of goods. And we all bought into the sunk cost fallacy when it comes to lockdowns, masks, distancing etc.

Nothing you did in the last 10 months has made any difference. This virus was always going to do what it wanted to do until we get enough of the population vaccinated.

So, I’m going to drink in a bar in a ski town and be okay with that decision.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The daily life as we know it has ended. The best thing to do is to embrace the change. We love the curbside pickups. We will continue to do that for at least another year of so.

OMG, literally you will not do anything out of your home until 1/26/2022? Let's for once be a bit more positive with vaccines rolling out although not as quickly as we would all like. They will come, people will be vaccinated and daily life will go on. Has your life always been this hopeless?

I am not that pp, but yes. Going out to eat is not more important than my health, sorry.

Go out and live your life if you want

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The daily life as we know it has ended. The best thing to do is to embrace the change. We love the curbside pickups. We will continue to do that for at least another year of so.

OMG, literally you will not do anything out of your home until 1/26/2022? Let's for once be a bit more positive with vaccines rolling out although not as quickly as we would all like. They will come, people will be vaccinated and daily life will go on. Has your life always been this hopeless?

I am not that pp, but yes. Going out to eat is not more important than my health, sorry.

Go out and live your life if you want

You do realize that waiting to eat in a restaurant for ANOTHER YEAR is 100% irrational, right? Cases are cratering in MD — we are back to early November levels. Same with the country.

Biden & Fauci have said we are on track to reach herd immunity by end of summer/early fall. So the fact that you plan to not enter a restaurant until end of January 2022 is insanity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what the purpose of opening them is -- do people really feel comfortable to sit inside and eat with masks off? I'm happy getting takeout.
I do wish more restaurants would repurpose their wait staff to do delivery. I hate grub hub and ubereats, and would order about 5x as often if I didn't have to get dressed to go pick it up.

That's the part I get stuck on. I haven't eaten inside a restaurant since March, and the reason isn't the ban on indoor eating in restaurants. The reason is that I don't want to sit inside a building with my mask off, and a bunch of other people with their masks off, to eat.

But many people feel differently than you and, with the ability to get business from those people, restaurants might have a chance to survive and serve as a vital part of our economy.

No one is saying you will be forced to dine in if you are not comfortable.

Your argument is that people should be allowed to do covid-transmitting things if they feel comfortable, because if enough people feel comfortable doing covid-transmitting things, that will keep the restaurants afloat.

The restaurants aren't in trouble because of coronavirus restrictions, they're in trouble because of coronavirus.

I get what you're trying to say, but its simply false. Restaurants would be doing much better if they were allowed to open and serve alcohol. Peoplr would go and eat and drink at restaurants despite the risk of COVID. It is, in fact, the restrictions that are hurting restaurants, not COVID itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The daily life as we know it has ended. The best thing to do is to embrace the change. We love the curbside pickups. We will continue to do that for at least another year of so.

OMG, literally you will not do anything out of your home until 1/26/2022? Let's for once be a bit more positive with vaccines rolling out although not as quickly as we would all like. They will come, people will be vaccinated and daily life will go on. Has your life always been this hopeless?

I am not that pp, but yes. Going out to eat is not more important than my health, sorry.

Go out and live your life if you want

I don't care what risk decisions people make for themselves. You want to stay home or do takeout? You do you. But don't shove that decision down everyone else's throats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what the purpose of opening them is -- do people really feel comfortable to sit inside and eat with masks off? I'm happy getting takeout.
I do wish more restaurants would repurpose their wait staff to do delivery. I hate grub hub and ubereats, and would order about 5x as often if I didn't have to get dressed to go pick it up.

That's the part I get stuck on. I haven't eaten inside a restaurant since March, and the reason isn't the ban on indoor eating in restaurants. The reason is that I don't want to sit inside a building with my mask off, and a bunch of other people with their masks off, to eat.

But many people feel differently than you and, with the ability to get business from those people, restaurants might have a chance to survive and serve as a vital part of our economy.

No one is saying you will be forced to dine in if you are not comfortable.

Your argument is that people should be allowed to do covid-transmitting things if they feel comfortable, because if enough people feel comfortable doing covid-transmitting things, that will keep the restaurants afloat.

The restaurants aren't in trouble because of coronavirus restrictions, they're in trouble because of coronavirus.

I get what you're trying to say, but its simply false. Restaurants would be doing much better if they were allowed to open and serve alcohol. Peoplr would go and eat and drink at restaurants despite the risk of COVID. It is, in fact, the restrictions that are hurting restaurants, not COVID itself.

There's a new study out that belies your claim, but I can't find a link to it right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure what the purpose of opening them is -- do people really feel comfortable to sit inside and eat with masks off? I'm happy getting takeout.
I do wish more restaurants would repurpose their wait staff to do delivery. I hate grub hub and ubereats, and would order about 5x as often if I didn't have to get dressed to go pick it up.

We were in Snowshoe this weekend for skiing. My friends and I were able to sit at a bar, order a burger and have drinks. It was pretty awesome.

So, yeah, there are plenty of people who are comfortable eating inside with masks off. Get out of your bubble.

My kid's doing Zoom school in our living room and shouting across the yard at her grandparents, and you're flying to Snowshoe to eat hamburgers with friends indoors in bars apres-ski.

Well, we drove.

But, yeah. The dirty little secret is that nothing we’ve done over the last 10 months to try and stop this pandemic were ever going to work. The so-called experts were flailing around. Regular Americans were sold a false bill of goods. And we all bought into the sunk cost fallacy when it comes to lockdowns, masks, distancing etc.

Nothing you did in the last 10 months has made any difference. This virus was always going to do what it wanted to do until we get enough of the population vaccinated.

So, I’m going to drink in a bar in a ski town and be okay with that decision.

Oh wow. I hope your fatalistic anti-mask, anti-distance, anti-science self doesn't live in the DC area.