Remote Document Review

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's your question? Is this a thing you can do even though you've been out for 10 years? Yes it is, as long as your bar membership is still current. Is it a good pathway back to practicing law? Not really, unless you want to do doc review.

I’m not OP, but I’m following. Has anyone had experience doing doc review remotely? What is the nature of the work nowadays, given the new technology?

OP, where are you seeing the remote job listings?

Anyone doing remote document review?

[Anonymous]

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Anyone doing remote document review?

I'm doing it. What is your question? It's as the PPs said, Relativity (easy to learn for the basics), requires active bar membership, kind of boring, and not a great path to a legal career.

[Anonymous]

I work at a firm that hires a lot of people to do our doc review and now it is being done remotely. These jobs are competitive and we tend to use attorneys who have worked for us in the past and who know how to use Relativity. Also, they typically have to work business hours so please don’t think of this as the type of job you can do in off times. Further, many of these projects aren’t lengthy because of how developed AI has become.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anyone doing remote document review?

I'm doing it. What is your question? It's as the PPs said, Relativity (easy to learn for the basics), requires active bar membership, kind of boring, and not a great path to a legal career.

Are you currently doing it remotely? Do you have to sit at the computer from 9am-4 or is there flexibility? Is your time monitored on the computer and you crank out as much work as you can or do you get a file and you work the file at a reasonable pace?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work at a firm that hires a lot of people to do our doc review and now it is being done remotely. These jobs are competitive and we tend to use attorneys who have worked for us in the past and who know how to use Relativity. Also, they typically have to work business hours so please don’t think of this as the type of job you can do in off times. Further, many of these projects aren’t lengthy because of how developed AI has become.

Thanks. Not looking to work in off times as this would be the only job I work. I’m also not looking to be monitored like I was years ago when I worked Customer Service. If I need a break that goes over 15 mins I don’t want to have someone down my throat.

[Anonymous]

The market for doc review is better of you can read and write in a foreign language

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work at a firm that hires a lot of people to do our doc review and now it is being done remotely. These jobs are competitive and we tend to use attorneys who have worked for us in the past and who know how to use Relativity. Also, they typically have to work business hours so please don’t think of this as the type of job you can do in off times. Further, many of these projects aren’t lengthy because of how developed AI has become.

Thanks. Not looking to work in off times as this would be the only job I work. I’m also not looking to be monitored like I was years ago when I worked Customer Service. If I need a break that goes over 15 mins I don’t want to have someone down my throat.

I’m sure they will be very interested to hear your list of demands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anyone doing remote document review?

I'm doing it. What is your question? It's as the PPs said, Relativity (easy to learn for the basics), requires active bar membership, kind of boring, and not a great path to a legal career.

Are you currently doing it remotely? Do you have to sit at the computer from 9am-4 or is there flexibility? Is your time monitored on the computer and you crank out as much work as you can or do you get a file and you work the file at a reasonable pace?

I am currently doing it remotely and have some flexibility, but if there is a production or filing deadline I'm working a lot of hours regardless. It's more cranking out as much work as possible versus working at a reasonable pace. My time isn't monitored on the computer, but they do track productivity. The monitoring probably varies by company.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work at a firm that hires a lot of people to do our doc review and now it is being done remotely. These jobs are competitive and we tend to use attorneys who have worked for us in the past and who know how to use Relativity. Also, they typically have to work business hours so please don’t think of this as the type of job you can do in off times. Further, many of these projects aren’t lengthy because of how developed AI has become.

Thanks. Not looking to work in off times as this would be the only job I work. I’m also not looking to be monitored like I was years ago when I worked Customer Service. If I need a break that goes over 15 mins I don’t want to have someone down my throat.

I’m sure they will be very interested to hear your list of demands.

Okay. Thanks for nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anyone doing remote document review?

I'm doing it. What is your question? It's as the PPs said, Relativity (easy to learn for the basics), requires active bar membership, kind of boring, and not a great path to a legal career.

Are you currently doing it remotely? Do you have to sit at the computer from 9am-4 or is there flexibility? Is your time monitored on the computer and you crank out as much work as you can or do you get a file and you work the file at a reasonable pace?

I am currently doing it remotely and have some flexibility, but if there is a production or filing deadline I'm working a lot of hours regardless. It's more cranking out as much work as possible versus working at a reasonable pace. My time isn't monitored on the computer, but they do track productivity. The monitoring probably varies by company.

Thank you. This is very helpful.

[Anonymous]

Look, you will be monitored because clients are more cost conscious than ever and if you’re regularly taking 15mins breaks and billing for that time, it creates an ethical issue. Or if you’re not putting in full days when someone else could, it also creates an issue. And if you’re not reviewing at the rate the project was projected on, it also creates an issue. So yes, you will be monitored.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, you will be monitored because clients are more cost conscious than ever and if you’re regularly taking 15mins breaks and billing for that time, it creates an ethical issue. Or if you’re not putting in full days when someone else could, it also creates an issue. And if you’re not reviewing at the rate the project was projected on, it also creates an issue. So yes, you will be monitored.

+1 I'm interviewing doc review vendors for a project right now and most of them are including their monitoring software in the pitch. Ostensibly it's for information security but they can tell when there's no face at the computer, when a different face is there, if someone walks by in the background, if you hold up your phone to take a picture, etc. You're not going to get away with 20 minute smoke breaks every hour, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, you will be monitored because clients are more cost conscious than ever and if you’re regularly taking 15mins breaks and billing for that time, it creates an ethical issue. Or if you’re not putting in full days when someone else could, it also creates an issue. And if you’re not reviewing at the rate the project was projected on, it also creates an issue. So yes, you will be monitored.

+1 I'm interviewing doc review vendors for a project right now and most of them are including their monitoring software in the pitch. Ostensibly it's for information security but they can tell when there's no face at the computer, when a different face is there, if someone walks by in the background, if you hold up your phone to take a picture, etc. You're not going to get away with 20 minute smoke breaks every hour, OP.

Thanks. I appreciate the input. I’m not trying to get over or be unethical in anyway. I don’t know enough about document review works thus the questions. I don’t think it will be a good fit for me. My kids will be learning from home in September. There is no way I will be able to balance popping in on them from time to time and keeping up with a high demand job that is being monitored. I guess it’s back to writing wills. Thanks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, you will be monitored because clients are more cost conscious than ever and if you’re regularly taking 15mins breaks and billing for that time, it creates an ethical issue. Or if you’re not putting in full days when someone else could, it also creates an issue. And if you’re not reviewing at the rate the project was projected on, it also creates an issue. So yes, you will be monitored.

+1 I'm interviewing doc review vendors for a project right now and most of them are including their monitoring software in the pitch. Ostensibly it's for information security but they can tell when there's no face at the computer, when a different face is there, if someone walks by in the background, if you hold up your phone to take a picture, etc. You're not going to get away with 20 minute smoke breaks every hour, OP.

Thanks. I appreciate the input. I’m not trying to get over or be unethical in anyway. I don’t know enough about document review works thus the questions. I don’t think it will be a good fit for me. My kids will be learning from home in September. There is no way I will be able to balance popping in on them from time to time and keeping up with a high demand job that is being monitored. I guess it’s back to writing wills. Thanks

PP here - 2 thoughts. 1) Writing wills is a much better legal job than doc review, both in the moment and for exit opportunities; and 2) if you really want something hourly there are projects and vendors that are flexible about fitting in your time when you can make it work instead of working core hours. My guess is those go to reviewers they are familiar with first but you could definitely get your name on with a couple of different review staffing agencies and ask about each project as it comes up - you can't be staffed against your will on a project that doesn't work for you. But it will limit your options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, you will be monitored because clients are more cost conscious than ever and if you’re regularly taking 15mins breaks and billing for that time, it creates an ethical issue. Or if you’re not putting in full days when someone else could, it also creates an issue. And if you’re not reviewing at the rate the project was projected on, it also creates an issue. So yes, you will be monitored.

+1 I'm interviewing doc review vendors for a project right now and most of them are including their monitoring software in the pitch. Ostensibly it's for information security but they can tell when there's no face at the computer, when a different face is there, if someone walks by in the background, if you hold up your phone to take a picture, etc. You're not going to get away with 20 minute smoke breaks every hour, OP.

Thanks. I appreciate the input. I’m not trying to get over or be unethical in anyway. I don’t know enough about document review works thus the questions. I don’t think it will be a good fit for me. My kids will be learning from home in September. There is no way I will be able to balance popping in on them from time to time and keeping up with a high demand job that is being monitored. I guess it’s back to writing wills. Thanks

PP here - 2 thoughts. 1) Writing wills is a much better legal job than doc review, both in the moment and for exit opportunities; and 2) if you really want something hourly there are projects and vendors that are flexible about fitting in your time when you can make it work instead of working core hours. My guess is those go to reviewers they are familiar with first but you could definitely get your name on with a couple of different review staffing agencies and ask about each project as it comes up - you can't be staffed against your will on a project that doesn't work for you. But it will limit your options.

Thank you. I think your first comment is what I needed to hear. I don’t love drafting wills but it sounds like the best option for me at this current juncture. I do appreciate the honest responses. I was ready to put in my resume. Dcum for the win! This time (haha) 😉