| Pacifica hybrid and I love it . |
| Toyota is the only other choice here. |
| Toyota will be all new this fall, (first time in 10 years!) so if you buy now it will be very very dated soon. |
| The Chrysler, Dodge and VW vans are pretty much the same. They all come off the same assembly line. They just have different features. |
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I have a Dodge van. It is very well built for the basic function of "ability to go up and down the highway.". Everything else on it keeps falling apart.
My spouse calls it "a gold nugget hidden inside a dog turd." |
VW hasn't made the Routan since 2012-2013, but yes. |
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We replaced our 10 year old Odyssey with a 2020 Kia Sedona and are very happy.
I never thought we’d look at a Kia, but we ruled out most everything else so we tried it. The new Odysseys have horrible quality reports. The Siennas haven’t been upgraded in forever. The Pacifica has uncomfortable second row seats That are t adjustable front to back and therefore have no where near enough leg room for my teen. The Sedona has the most comfortable seats and set up, adaptive cruise control that works at all speeds (unlike the Odyssey), 360 degree cameras, auto stop brake for traffic lights, and the second row seats fold forward so you can easily move them to create more cargo space (bike can go inside the vehicle). It’s not exciting to look at, but it’s practical, and that’s what I need in a minivan. |
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On the other hand, if you buy a new Toyota this fall, you'll get to learn all about the new style's issues along with the dealer's service center. Always buy later in a production run when the kinks have been worked out. |
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With Hertz rental car agency recently declaring bankruptcy, I keep looking at their vans for sale on their web site. They are all either Dodge or Chrysler vans. Most of the ones for sale have about 40,000 miles on them and they are almost all 2019 models.
The prices are very appealing. |
| I am quite satisfied with my Pacifica. |
There is no way in earth I’d buy a brand new car (2020) that looks the same as the 2011 version. But you do you. |
NP here. We had this thought, but at the end of the day I just couldn’t bring myself to drive a Kia. Also worried about resale since we only keep our cars 4-6 years. |
| If you are most concerned about reliability then your only real alternate choice is Toyota. Check out the consumer reports reviews on the competitors, they all have terrible reliability. |
| Original owner of 2004 Toyota Sienna. Excellent reliability. Only let me down once (last year with a $250 repair). Other than that only oil changes, brakes, and I proactively replaced timing belt at 90k. We use it as a utility nowadays but will need to retire it next year or so. One of the most reliable vehicles we have owned. |