BCC/WJ Joint New ES Study

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grosvenor is still an option and close to the boundary with BCC.

I think they should select Grosvenor for the new ES, and also use Rocking Horse as the site for a replacement holding school. There are no holding schools in that area.

No BCC cluster kid is going to travel to Grosvenor. What they’ll do is a boundary study that rejiggers all of the ES schools for Bcc and WJ 18 months before the new school opens. That may or may not coincide with the Woodward study for the 2025 scheduled opening. The BCC students will end up at a closer school, like Wyngate. Wyngate students will be shuffled to Ashburton or Grosvenor. Grosvenor is in the Ashburton zone, so a large number of Ashburton students will be walkable to Grosvenor. Grosvenor is also close to the Tuckerman lane area that feeds 3 different ESes right now. If Ashburton suddenly has space, they may shuffle more kids from Lux into Ashburton, and so on and so forth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grosvenor is still an option and close to the boundary with BCC.

I think they should select Grosvenor for the new ES, and also use Rocking Horse as the site for a replacement holding school. There are no holding schools in that area.

No BCC cluster kid is going to travel to Grosvenor. What they’ll do is a boundary study that rejiggers all of the ES schools for Bcc and WJ 18 months before the new school opens. That may or may not coincide with the Woodward study for the 2025 scheduled opening. The BCC students will end up at a closer school, like Wyngate. Wyngate students will be shuffled to Ashburton or Grosvenor. Grosvenor is in the Ashburton zone, so a large number of Ashburton students will be walkable to Grosvenor. Grosvenor is also close to the Tuckerman lane area that feeds 3 different ESes right now. If Ashburton suddenly has space, they may shuffle more kids from Lux into Ashburton, and so on and so forth.

Only the ones on the Grosvenor side of Old Georgetown Road.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grosvenor is still an option and close to the boundary with BCC.

I think they should select Grosvenor for the new ES, and also use Rocking Horse as the site for a replacement holding school. There are no holding schools in that area.

No BCC cluster kid is going to travel to Grosvenor. What they’ll do is a boundary study that rejiggers all of the ES schools for Bcc and WJ 18 months before the new school opens. That may or may not coincide with the Woodward study for the 2025 scheduled opening. The BCC students will end up at a closer school, like Wyngate. Wyngate students will be shuffled to Ashburton or Grosvenor. Grosvenor is in the Ashburton zone, so a large number of Ashburton students will be walkable to Grosvenor. Grosvenor is also close to the Tuckerman lane area that feeds 3 different ESes right now. If Ashburton suddenly has space, they may shuffle more kids from Lux into Ashburton, and so on and so forth.

Only the ones on the Grosvenor side of Old Georgetown Road.

At least 150 kids

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any of the families of the almost 1000 kids at Ashburton or Farmland agree with you, but apparently MCPS does, so there's that.

If you're suggesting that those two schools are so overcapacity that they themselves would justify building a new school, that's not the case. Ashburton is currently 134 over and Farmland is 142 over. The projections show Ashburton getting as high as 193 and Farmland decreasing each year. Also, you have to factor in that K-P is currently 114 undercapacity.

I think the overage of Farmland kids are destined for Lux Manor when the Rexex is done.

You are clearly not living in the WJ Cluster. The kids in the Luxmanor holding school will just about fill Luxmanor when it opens. Farmland and everyone from WF. esp. Twinbrook Quarter be damned. MCPS projections are so bad - this is why WJ Cluster needs an entire ES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any of the families of the almost 1000 kids at Ashburton or Farmland agree with you, but apparently MCPS does, so there's that.

If you're suggesting that those two schools are so overcapacity that they themselves would justify building a new school, that's not the case. Ashburton is currently 134 over and Farmland is 142 over. The projections show Ashburton getting as high as 193 and Farmland decreasing each year. Also, you have to factor in that K-P is currently 114 undercapacity.

I think the overage of Farmland kids are destined for Lux Manor when the Rexex is done.

You are clearly not living in the WJ Cluster. The kids in the Luxmanor holding school will just about fill Luxmanor when it opens. Farmland and everyone from WF. esp. Twinbrook Quarter be damned. MCPS projections are so bad - this is why WJ Cluster needs an entire ES.

THey're 740 kids in the holding school?

[Anonymous]

I think they need this elementary school, then another one a few years down the road for White Flint etc etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any of the families of the almost 1000 kids at Ashburton or Farmland agree with you, but apparently MCPS does, so there's that.

If you're suggesting that those two schools are so overcapacity that they themselves would justify building a new school, that's not the case. Ashburton is currently 134 over and Farmland is 142 over. The projections show Ashburton getting as high as 193 and Farmland decreasing each year. Also, you have to factor in that K-P is currently 114 undercapacity.

I think the overage of Farmland kids are destined for Lux Manor when the Rexex is done.

You are clearly not living in the WJ Cluster. The kids in the Luxmanor holding school will just about fill Luxmanor when it opens. Farmland and everyone from WF. esp. Twinbrook Quarter be damned. MCPS projections are so bad - this is why WJ Cluster needs an entire ES.

THey're 740 kids in the holding school?

678.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think they need this elementary school, then another one a few years down the road for White Flint etc etc

They should first redraw the lines to fill the empty seats at Kensington Parkwood, North Chevy Chase, and Westbrook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they need this elementary school, then another one a few years down the road for White Flint etc etc

They should first redraw the lines to fill the empty seats at Kensington Parkwood, North Chevy Chase, and Westbrook.

They are redrawing Westbrook/Somerset right now. They can’t fill NCC and CC without completely overwhelming Rosemary Hills OR de-coupling RH/NCC/CC which MCPS is loathe to do. They might be able to do a small KP/GP boundary adjustment to better fill the new KP addition, but it’s impossible to run every school at exactly 100% capacity. MCPS guidelines say optimal utilization is 80-100% and KP is well within that range. Getting kids out of Ashburton by using KP would require domino re districting. Maybe some kids out of Wyngate to KP (east of 355) and then some kids out of Ashburton to Wyngate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they need this elementary school, then another one a few years down the road for White Flint etc etc

They should first redraw the lines to fill the empty seats at Kensington Parkwood, North Chevy Chase, and Westbrook.

They are redrawing Westbrook/Somerset right now. They can’t fill NCC and CC without completely overwhelming Rosemary Hills OR de-coupling RH/NCC/CC which MCPS is loathe to do. They might be able to do a small KP/GP boundary adjustment to better fill the new KP addition, but it’s impossible to run every school at exactly 100% capacity. MCPS guidelines say optimal utilization is 80-100% and KP is well within that range. Getting kids out of Ashburton by using KP would require domino re districting. Maybe some kids out of Wyngate to KP (east of 355) and then some kids out of Ashburton to Wyngate.

There's going to be domino redsitricting when they open the new "joint" school. The kids from BCC are going to end up at Wyngate in the Grosvenor scenario.

[Anonymous]

Unless they do major domino redistricting Ashburton is destined to be over capacity forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless they do major domino redistricting Ashburton is destined to be over capacity forever.

Not if they build the new school at Grosvenor, or one of the other nearby sites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they need this elementary school, then another one a few years down the road for White Flint etc etc

They should first redraw the lines to fill the empty seats at Kensington Parkwood, North Chevy Chase, and Westbrook.

You realize that KP only has empty seats because the school was bursting at the seams and the country recently finished a renovation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they need this elementary school, then another one a few years down the road for White Flint etc etc

They should first redraw the lines to fill the empty seats at Kensington Parkwood, North Chevy Chase, and Westbrook.

You realize that KP only has empty seats because the school was bursting at the seams and the country recently finished a renovation.

Yes, I do realize that. And my point was that I think they should use those empty seats, along with the already-planned new BCC/WJ school, before finding money to build yet another new WJ (or Woodward) school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any of the families of the almost 1000 kids at Ashburton or Farmland agree with you, but apparently MCPS does, so there's that.

If you're suggesting that those two schools are so overcapacity that they themselves would justify building a new school, that's not the case. Ashburton is currently 134 over and Farmland is 142 over. The projections show Ashburton getting as high as 193 and Farmland decreasing each year. Also, you have to factor in that K-P is currently 114 undercapacity.

I think the overage of Farmland kids are destined for Lux Manor when the Rexex is done.

You are clearly not living in the WJ Cluster. The kids in the Luxmanor holding school will just about fill Luxmanor when it opens. Farmland and everyone from WF. esp. Twinbrook Quarter be damned. MCPS projections are so bad - this is why WJ Cluster needs an entire ES.

THey're 740 kids in the holding school?

678.

They project Luxmanor to grow to 732 next year, and 792 by 2023. The new building's capacity is 767.