CYA Basketball: Why don't more parents volunteer or get involved?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is frustrating in rec basketball when coaches scheme to keep teams together-telling their team not to show up for the skills evaluation, etc and then there are three teams who have played together for years and two teams of stragglers wondering why the teams are so unbalanced.

Yes. This always happens but that doesn’t address the lack of parental involvement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is frustrating in rec basketball when coaches scheme to keep teams together-telling their team not to show up for the skills evaluation, etc and then there are three teams who have played together for years and two teams of stragglers wondering why the teams are so unbalanced.

Yes. This always happens but that doesn’t address the lack of parental involvement.

NP-in a roundabout way it does. The same 3 coaches always coach and have "their" teams that they scheme to keep (in our league, the perennial move is having "your" team not show for the skills evaluation, or they have four assistant coaches and all 5 coaches have great players). Then the two coaches who get guilted into volunteering to coach at the last minute have a horrible experience with their teams of random kids getting beaten badly every game, and never volunteer again. And they are puzzled as to why the "draft" didn't create fair teams.

We are in a different part of Fairfax and agree that certain groups tend to be social users who never give back and just take, take, take. Coach John McWhitey gets tired of coaching fall soccer, winter basketball, and spring baseball--standing out in the cold coaching the kids whose parents want them to play every season but never volunteer and frankly, usually sit in their running car during practice or try to drop off. We had one team where only two families would sign up for snacks (I know DCUM yada yada on the snacks but the custom in this league was to have them). Did people think some kind of snack fairy dropped snacks out of the sky?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:well, we would have loved to have put our son in that league, and my husband would have stepped up...

But we have no Catholic affiliation and at least when my kid was of age, it wasn't open to us.

I think you have it confused with CYO which is church based affiliates. Not CYA

I think you are correct (this is the poster).

What is CYO, then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is frustrating in rec basketball when coaches scheme to keep teams together-telling their team not to show up for the skills evaluation, etc and then there are three teams who have played together for years and two teams of stragglers wondering why the teams are so unbalanced.

This happens ALL THE TIME. In SYA, as well. It's unbelievably irritating. Then you have teams of kids who have played together for years vs. teams cobbled together from all the newbies.

It's also not limited to basketball. Happens in other sports, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds horrible but in that area, it’s because Asian parents rarely volunteer but they want to sign their kids up to play. They will sometimes volunteer for school activities that directly benefit their own child but almost never fr sports. So in Chantilly, 50% of your potential coaches will never volunteer. That’s why there are at least three parents in every age group who coach soccer, baseball, and basketball.

Bingo! That’s pretty much what I was getting at but didn’t want to call out any specific group.

Recent Asian immigrant parents may have English language issues that hold them back. Not all, but could be more than you realize depending on where you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds horrible but in that area, it’s because Asian parents rarely volunteer but they want to sign their kids up to play. They will sometimes volunteer for school activities that directly benefit their own child but almost never fr sports. So in Chantilly, 50% of your potential coaches will never volunteer. That’s why there are at least three parents in every age group who coach soccer, baseball, and basketball.

Bingo! That’s pretty much what I was getting at but didn’t want to call out any specific group.

Recent Asian immigrant parents may have English language issues that hold them back. Not all, but could be more than you realize depending on where you are.

not only that, they may have absolutely 0 knowledge of the sport. Don’t worry about them, just do as much as YOU can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds horrible but in that area, it’s because Asian parents rarely volunteer but they want to sign their kids up to play. They will sometimes volunteer for school activities that directly benefit their own child but almost never fr sports. So in Chantilly, 50% of your potential coaches will never volunteer. That’s why there are at least three parents in every age group who coach soccer, baseball, and basketball.

Bingo! That’s pretty much what I was getting at but didn’t want to call out any specific group.

Recent Asian immigrant parents may have English language issues that hold them back. Not all, but could be more than you realize depending on where you are.

not only that, they may have absolutely 0 knowledge of the sport. Don’t worry about them, just do as much as YOU can.

Don't stereotype.
300 million people play basketball in China- it is their national sport. It is growing in other Asian nations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds horrible but in that area, it’s because Asian parents rarely volunteer but they want to sign their kids up to play. They will sometimes volunteer for school activities that directly benefit their own child but almost never fr sports. So in Chantilly, 50% of your potential coaches will never volunteer. That’s why there are at least three parents in every age group who coach soccer, baseball, and basketball.

Bingo! That’s pretty much what I was getting at but didn’t want to call out any specific group.

Recent Asian immigrant parents may have English language issues that hold them back. Not all, but could be more than you realize depending on where you are.

not only that, they may have absolutely 0 knowledge of the sport. Don’t worry about them, just do as much as YOU can.

Don't stereotype.
300 million people play basketball in China- it is their national sport. It is growing in other Asian nations.

This is bogus.

But the main point is, a much higher % of recent Asian immigrants do not have the command of English and/or enough basketball knowledge to step up to coach. Imagine you going to Shanghai and coach ping pong in Chinese, or coaching Kendo in Japanese in Tokyo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds horrible but in that area, it’s because Asian parents rarely volunteer but they want to sign their kids up to play. They will sometimes volunteer for school activities that directly benefit their own child but almost never fr sports. So in Chantilly, 50% of your potential coaches will never volunteer. That’s why there are at least three parents in every age group who coach soccer, baseball, and basketball.

Bingo! That’s pretty much what I was getting at but didn’t want to call out any specific group.

Recent Asian immigrant parents may have English language issues that hold them back. Not all, but could be more than you realize depending on where you are.

not only that, they may have absolutely 0 knowledge of the sport. Don’t worry about them, just do as much as YOU can.

Don't stereotype.
300 million people play basketball in China- it is their national sport. It is growing in other Asian nations.

There are some AMAZING players in China, but to be fair, most of the Chinese adults that I see playing in the US are terrible --- there are a bunch of guys near us who play pick up together occasionally at the park near us, and, while I admire their willingness to get out there, it's a strikingly different looking game than when the regular guys play (most of whom have been playing since childhood and many of whom recently played in college).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is frustrating in rec basketball when coaches scheme to keep teams together-telling their team not to show up for the skills evaluation, etc and then there are three teams who have played together for years and two teams of stragglers wondering why the teams are so unbalanced.

This happens ALL THE TIME. In SYA, as well. It's unbelievably irritating. Then you have teams of kids who have played together for years vs. teams cobbled together from all the newbies.

It's also not limited to basketball. Happens in other sports, too.

SYA coach here-had your draft last week, too? The way it was run made no sense and created two sets of teams, some great and some terrible. Oh, and one guy got really mad when another team snagged his secret "not evaluated so rated a zero" player. We all saw that kid play last year, man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds horrible but in that area, it’s because Asian parents rarely volunteer but they want to sign their kids up to play. They will sometimes volunteer for school activities that directly benefit their own child but almost never fr sports. So in Chantilly, 50% of your potential coaches will never volunteer. That’s why there are at least three parents in every age group who coach soccer, baseball, and basketball.

Bingo! That’s pretty much what I was getting at but didn’t want to call out any specific group.

Recent Asian immigrant parents may have English language issues that hold them back. Not all, but could be more than you realize depending on where you are.

not only that, they may have absolutely 0 knowledge of the sport. Don’t worry about them, just do as much as YOU can.

That might be true. So soccer isn't big in Korea or China? Because we can't get Asian parent volunteers for tennis, soccer, basketball, volleyball, wrestling...when our population is easliy 40% Asian.

[Anonymous]

I know some Asian immigrants who rely on their American-born native English speaking children for responses and translation. My son’s good friend’s parents use his older sister’s email address but as you might imagine, a high schooler isn’t always going to pass along messages re: her little brother’s sports teams.

[Anonymous]

Let's not forget that rec leagues also have to deal with the parents who know how to coach leaving the rec league for travel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds horrible but in that area, it’s because Asian parents rarely volunteer but they want to sign their kids up to play. They will sometimes volunteer for school activities that directly benefit their own child but almost never fr sports. So in Chantilly, 50% of your potential coaches will never volunteer. That’s why there are at least three parents in every age group who coach soccer, baseball, and basketball.

Bingo! That’s pretty much what I was getting at but didn’t want to call out any specific group.

CYA parent here and non-Asian.

Definitely cultural issues. DH and I have to swap doing the book/clock. We are the only two who willingly do this.

[Anonymous]

I know other youth sport rec leagues require parents to either volunteer (coach, asst coach, team parent, clock, etc) or pay extra. Does CYA do this?