Grassley/Graham memo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. If the link to the pdf doesn’t work, try this.

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-02-06%20CEG%20LG%20to%20DOJ%20FBI%20(Unclassified%20Steele%20Referral).pdf

Thanks for posting this.

I only got to page four when I saw that Comey called the information "salacious." How then did the FBI go ahead and present salacious information to the FIDA court? That's worse than unvetted!

Worse? The salacious information didn't refer to Carter Page, who did meet with Russian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This memo seems to be making the exact same flawed arguments that the Nunes memo made, that a.) the dossier was central evidence in getting the FISA warrant and b.) the source and how it was developed wasn't disclosed to the FISA court.

Both of those are already debunked.

Did Grassley and Graham actually read the FISA warrant and associated documentation? Turned out Nunes didn't...

Yes. Grassley read the FISA warrant. And, the fact that the information presented to FISC was primarily information provided by Steele has not been debunked.

Still pretty disturbing that the FBI, in its zeal to continue assisting Hillary to a win, knowingly provided unvetted information her campaign developed (via Steele) to the FISA court in order to spy on her opponent. (And failed to tell the FISA court that the unvetted info originated with Hillary's campaign.)

The information about Page was verified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?

Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?

It hasn't been proven true. And it's worse than that, and you know it. Comey allowed information provided by the Hillary campaign, which he himself acknowledged as "salacious" to be used to obtain a FISA warrant against Trump.

It does make me wonder who was pulling the strings. He obviously was instructed to let Hillary slide in conjunction with her gross mishandling of classified information and the related obstruction of justice as she tried to hide evidence, so who was pushing him? We already know that Lynch told him to call it a "matter" and attempted a clandestine meeting with Bill a couple of days before Hillary's "interview'," but does the path stop there?

The Clintons are the dirtiest people in politics, bar NONE. Democrats don't have a leg to stand on when they criticize Trump for dishonest and corruption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?

Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?

It hasn't been proven true. And it's worse than that, and you know it. Comey allowed information provided by the Hillary campaign, which he himself acknowledged as "salacious" to be used to obtain a FISA warrant against Trump.

It does make me wonder who was pulling the strings. He obviously was instructed to let Hillary slide in conjunction with her gross mishandling of classified information and the related obstruction of justice as she tried to hide evidence, so who was pushing him? We already know that Lynch told him to call it a "matter" and attempted a clandestine meeting with Bill a couple of days before Hillary's "interview'," but does the path stop there?

The Clintons are the dirtiest people in politics, bar NONE. Democrats don't have a leg to stand on when they criticize Trump for dishonest and corruption.

The upside down: Podesta, pizza, and the Clintons!!! It's all there!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?

Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?

It hasn't been proven true. And it's worse than that, and you know it. Comey allowed information provided by the Hillary campaign, which he himself acknowledged as "salacious" to be used to obtain a FISA warrant against Trump.

It does make me wonder who was pulling the strings. He obviously was instructed to let Hillary slide in conjunction with her gross mishandling of classified information and the related obstruction of justice as she tried to hide evidence, so who was pushing him? We already know that Lynch told him to call it a "matter" and attempted a clandestine meeting with Bill a couple of days before Hillary's "interview'," but does the path stop there?

The Clintons are the dirtiest people in politics, bar NONE. Democrats don't have a leg to stand on when they criticize Trump for dishonest and corruption.

Yep, the dossier cost Trump the election.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Still pretty disturbing that the FBI, in its zeal to continue assisting Hillary to a win, knowingly provided unvetted information her campaign developed (via Steele) to the FISA court in order to spy on her opponent. (And failed to tell the FISA court that the unvetted info originated with Hillary's campaign.)

Uh, it was the NY FBI office that forced the issue on the emails that turned out to be less than nothing, coordinated with Giuliani, Erik Prince and others to spread disinformation that changed the poll numbers in the week before the election. If the Steel Dossier was a ploy to ensure Hillary would win, then it failed miserably, no?

How can you say the issue with emails was less than nothing? After all that's come out about the FBI''s efforts to get her off clean? (The fact that the NY office did the right thing just shows that most in the FBI do the right thing.)

Just reverse it. Would you say it's "less than nothing" if the FBI discovered that Trump had a secret server, and that he quickly wiped 30,000 emails off it upon its discovery? And then, in an effort to make sure his communications were never revealed, destroyed the server itself, after the server was subpoenaed by Congress? You'd be screaming for impeachment.

BTW, there is more than one conservative posting here. I say this because liberals here tend to think they're addressing the same person all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?

Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?

It hasn't been proven true. And it's worse than that, and you know it. Comey allowed information provided by the Hillary campaign, which he himself acknowledged as "salacious" to be used to obtain a FISA warrant against Trump.

It does make me wonder who was pulling the strings. He obviously was instructed to let Hillary slide in conjunction with her gross mishandling of classified information and the related obstruction of justice as she tried to hide evidence, so who was pushing him? We already know that Lynch told him to call it a "matter" and attempted a clandestine meeting with Bill a couple of days before Hillary's "interview'," but does the path stop there?

The Clintons are the dirtiest people in politics, bar NONE. Democrats don't have a leg to stand on when they criticize Trump for dishonest and corruption.

Yep, the dossier cost Trump the election.

Nope. All it showed is that Hillary was so bad that all her "fixing" couldn't overcome who she was. I know several people who voted third party who told me they couldn't stand Trump but couldn't pull the lever for Hillary either. She was that bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Still pretty disturbing that the FBI, in its zeal to continue assisting Hillary to a win, knowingly provided unvetted information her campaign developed (via Steele) to the FISA court in order to spy on her opponent. (And failed to tell the FISA court that the unvetted info originated with Hillary's campaign.)

Uh, it was the NY FBI office that forced the issue on the emails that turned out to be less than nothing, coordinated with Giuliani, Erik Prince and others to spread disinformation that changed the poll numbers in the week before the election. If the Steel Dossier was a ploy to ensure Hillary would win, then it failed miserably, no?

How can you say the issue with emails was less than nothing? After all that's come out about the FBI''s efforts to get her off clean? (The fact that the NY office did the right thing just shows that most in the FBI do the right thing.)

Just reverse it. Would you say it's "less than nothing" if the FBI discovered that Trump had a secret server, and that he quickly wiped 30,000 emails off it upon its discovery? And then, in an effort to make sure his communications were never revealed, destroyed the server itself, after the server was subpoenaed by Congress? You'd be screaming for impeachment.

BTW, there is more than one conservative posting here. I say this because liberals here tend to think they're addressing the same person all the time.

The Trump Administration is illegally using apps that erase messages and is using private servers. Let's see what happens when Mueller asks for it. Until then, Trump has done far worse. And I am not apologizing for Hillary. She was a bad candidate.

[Anonymous]

Page 5 of the memo:

Journalists from NYT, Washington Post, Yahoo News, the New Yorker and CNN WERE BRIEFED at the end of sept 2016 by Steele and Fusion GPS at Fusion’s instruction.

Then, page 6:

Mr. Steele also admitted in British litigation to briefing journalists from the above organizations. And, in the British litigation, he admitted that he included unsolicited and unverified allegations.

These charges do not sound like something an “elite British Intelligence Officer” would do.
Sounds to me like he was desperate to see that Trump did not win. And, he was willing to do most anything to make that happen.

And, the British litigation referenced here, I believe, is the suit that has been filed against him around the dossier.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/05/christopher-steele-is-no-show-in-london-court-in-civil-case-over-dossier.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This memo seems to be making the exact same flawed arguments that the Nunes memo made, that a.) the dossier was central evidence in getting the FISA warrant and b.) the source and how it was developed wasn't disclosed to the FISA court.

Both of those are already debunked.

Did Grassley and Graham actually read the FISA warrant and associated documentation? Turned out Nunes didn't...

Yes. Grassley read the FISA warrant. And, the fact that the information presented to FISC was primarily information provided by Steele has not been debunked.

Still pretty disturbing that the FBI, in its zeal to continue assisting Hillary to a win, knowingly provided unvetted information her campaign developed (via Steele) to the FISA court in order to spy on her opponent. (And failed to tell the FISA court that the unvetted info originated with Hillary's campaign.)

Cool narrative. The FISA court approved the warrant on October 21, just two weeks before the election, while Strzok was pushing McCabe to reopen the email investigation based on the Weiner laptop. Trumpniks suck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Page 5 of the memo:

Journalists from NYT, Washington Post, Yahoo News, the New Yorker and CNN WERE BRIEFED at the end of sept 2016 by Steele and Fusion GPS at Fusion’s instruction.

Then, page 6:

Mr. Steele also admitted in British litigation to briefing journalists from the above organizations. And, in the British litigation, he admitted that he included unsolicited and unverified allegations.

These charges do not sound like something an “elite British Intelligence Officer” would do.
Sounds to me like he was desperate to see that Trump did not win. And, he was willing to do most anything to make that happen.

And, the British litigation referenced here, I believe, is the suit that has been filed against him around the dossier.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/05/christopher-steele-is-no-show-in-london-court-in-civil-case-over-dossier.html

What do you think intelligence officers do? They gather information, including rumor, solicited and unsolicited, accurate and inaccurate. They don't filter the information they gather, they gather everything. Filtering comes later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?

Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?

We really don’t know the veracity of the information. The main point here is that the FBI presented this to the FISA court without knowing the veracity of the information because, as Comey indicated, because Steele had provided solid information in the past. And, Comey himself referred to this dossier as “salacious and unverified.”

A portion of one of the reports comprising the so-called “dossier” contained salacious information about the kompromat tapes from the Ritz — something the CIA believes to be true. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-38589427 Remember, there is an independent witness to a incident at the Ritz-Carlton between hotel security and a group of women. And Trump’s security guy has essential said he doesn’t know what happened that night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?

Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?

It hasn't been proven true. And it's worse than that, and you know it. Comey allowed information provided by the Hillary campaign, which he himself acknowledged as "salacious" to be used to obtain a FISA warrant against Trump.

It does make me wonder who was pulling the strings. He obviously was instructed to let Hillary slide in conjunction with her gross mishandling of classified information and the related obstruction of justice as she tried to hide evidence, so who was pushing him? We already know that Lynch told him to call it a "matter" and attempted a clandestine meeting with Bill a couple of days before Hillary's "interview'," but does the path stop there?

The Clintons are the dirtiest people in politics, bar NONE. Democrats don't have a leg to stand on when they criticize Trump for dishonest and corruption.

The upside down: Podesta, pizza, and the Clintons!!! It's all there!

#ReleaseThePizzagateBenghaziDmailsFaintingArea51Memo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the info in the Steele dossier wrong simply because it was compiled by Trump foes?

Ot is anything produced by Trump foes disregarded even if it's true?

It hasn't been proven true. And it's worse than that, and you know it. Comey allowed information provided by the Hillary campaign, which he himself acknowledged as "salacious" to be used to obtain a FISA warrant against Trump.

It does make me wonder who was pulling the strings. He obviously was instructed to let Hillary slide in conjunction with her gross mishandling of classified information and the related obstruction of justice as she tried to hide evidence, so who was pushing him? We already know that Lynch told him to call it a "matter" and attempted a clandestine meeting with Bill a couple of days before Hillary's "interview'," but does the path stop there?

The Clintons are the dirtiest people in politics, bar NONE. Democrats don't have a leg to stand on when they criticize Trump for dishonest and corruption.

The FISA warrant was for Page, was it not? Page was on his way out of the Trump campaign (or already gone?) by the time the warrant was approved (October), was he not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Still pretty disturbing that the FBI, in its zeal to continue assisting Hillary to a win, knowingly provided unvetted information her campaign developed (via Steele) to the FISA court in order to spy on her opponent. (And failed to tell the FISA court that the unvetted info originated with Hillary's campaign.)

Uh, it was the NY FBI office that forced the issue on the emails that turned out to be less than nothing, coordinated with Giuliani, Erik Prince and others to spread disinformation that changed the poll numbers in the week before the election. If the Steel Dossier was a ploy to ensure Hillary would win, then it failed miserably, no?

How can you say the issue with emails was less than nothing? After all that's come out about the FBI''s efforts to get her off clean? (The fact that the NY office did the right thing just shows that most in the FBI do the right thing.)

Just reverse it. Would you say it's "less than nothing" if the FBI discovered that Trump had a secret server, and that he quickly wiped 30,000 emails off it upon its discovery? And then, in an effort to make sure his communications were never revealed, destroyed the server itself, after the server was subpoenaed by Congress? You'd be screaming for impeachment.

BTW, there is more than one conservative posting here. I say this because liberals here tend to think they're addressing the same person all the time.

The server wasn’t destroyed, you feeble-minded troglodyte. It was maintained by Platte River Networks until turned over to DOJ. The thumb drives containing her State emails were turned over to State, which produced them to Judicial Watch in a lawsuit assigned to Judge Contreras. These thumb drives were later provided to DOJ, with the server.