RM IB Coordinator?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: "since IB is so very hard and these kids need the cohort"

But no other IB High School in MCPS has this cohort..

This is the only test in program, which goes against the IB philosophy. Certainly other schools around the country & world use testing for admissions, but IB should be open to all. It's not a weed out program; it's inclusive. Of course, kids will weed themselves out if they are unwilling to do the work. But that's true in any course or program.

[Anonymous]

I find it absolutely strange how non-magnet parents have an opinion about the program that does not take away from their children at all or impact them in any way. Would love some RMIB magnet parents to give their opinion about what is happening in the school.

Sometimes it is one person who can make or break a program. Hoover is/was the reason that the diploma rate is so high. The program is inclusive and the IB part is open to ANY student who wants to do it in the school. You would assume that everyone would jump at the opportunity to get in the magnet program or do the IB diploma. I guess the magnet IB workload and an extremely high achieving peer group dissuades many others from doing the program.

Unfortunately, there is no way the school can water down the program and still fulfill the IB requirement. MCPS mantra has been to lower capability, merit and achievement to create the illusion that students are not performing at different levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: "since IB is so very hard and these kids need the cohort"

But no other IB High School in MCPS has this cohort..

This is the only test in program, which goes against the IB philosophy. Certainly other schools around the country & world use testing for admissions, but IB should be open to all. It's not a weed out program; it's inclusive. Of course, kids will weed themselves out if they are unwilling to do the work. But that's true in any course or program.

Then why IB is not open to all in MCPS? Students will welcome it if not need to test in.

[Anonymous]

Do any MCPS IB high schools offer the IB career track? Why not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it absolutely strange how non-magnet parents have an opinion about the program that does not take away from their children at all or impact them in any way. Would love some RMIB magnet parents to give their opinion about what is happening in the school.

Sometimes it is one person who can make or break a program. Hoover is/was the reason that the diploma rate is so high. The program is inclusive and the IB part is open to ANY student who wants to do it in the school. You would assume that everyone would jump at the opportunity to get in the magnet program or do the IB diploma. I guess the magnet IB workload and an extremely high achieving peer group dissuades many others from doing the program.

Unfortunately, there is no way the school can water down the program and still fulfill the IB requirement. MCPS mantra has been to lower capability, merit and achievement to create the illusion that students are not performing at different levels.

My high achieving RM non-magnet student was exposed to PYP and MYP and thrilled to leave it behind after 10th grade. Not the workload or the competitive kids..just the structure of the classes and writing style. So happy to never hear the term reflection again!! He literally put the application form in the fire place and watched it burn. That is not to say it can not be a wonderful program for the right kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it absolutely strange how non-magnet parents have an opinion about the program that does not take away from their children at all or impact them in any way. Would love some RMIB magnet parents to give their opinion about what is happening in the school.

Sometimes it is one person who can make or break a program. Hoover is/was the reason that the diploma rate is so high. The program is inclusive and the IB part is open to ANY student who wants to do it in the school. You would assume that everyone would jump at the opportunity to get in the magnet program or do the IB diploma. I guess the magnet IB workload and an extremely high achieving peer group dissuades many others from doing the program.

Unfortunately, there is no way the school can water down the program and still fulfill the IB requirement. MCPS mantra has been to lower capability, merit and achievement to create the illusion that students are not performing at different levels.

My high achieving RM non-magnet student was exposed to PYP and MYP and thrilled to leave it behind after 10th grade. Not the workload or the competitive kids..just the structure of the classes and writing style. So happy to never hear the term reflection again!! He literally put the application form in the fire place and watched it burn. That is not to say it can not be a wonderful program for the right kid.

This is a hearty endorsement for the inclusivity of RMIB program. Yes, it is open to all RM students - magnet or non-magnet. Very few non-magnet students opt in to do the program because it is not the right program for them. Every RM student have access and opportunity to do this. Majority of the talk about magnet IB not being inclusive is coming from the parents of students who are not interested in doing the program in the first place. The same goes for AP courses. No one can force a kid to be on the AP track or take an AP course. Either the kid is interested and capable or they are not.

Let me draw a parallel - all the people who are in US Navy, do not train to be a Navy Seal. It is the very few who have the ability and the determination that get chosen to become Navy Seals - mainly because it is tougher than being a sailor. AP , IB, Magnet - requires a lot of sacrifice of time and effort

The magnet programs were never put in place to serve the needs of the highly gifted children in MCPS. It was put in place as a poorly conceived social engineering experiment in low performing schools. Perhaps, MCPS should create seperate majority magnet schools like Poolesville HS. That way there will not be a school within a school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do any MCPS IB high schools offer the IB career track? Why not?

What is an IB career track?

All the HSs that offer IB have the same diploma option that RMIB offers. The problem is that most students do not want to do the full IB diploma because that adds to the workload of MCPS HS requirements and the college application process. Besides, the IB exam papers are graded by examiners in other countries, so the US students need to up their game and actually compete internationally. No scope of grade inflation here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: "since IB is so very hard and these kids need the cohort"

But no other IB High School in MCPS has this cohort..

This is the only test in program, which goes against the IB philosophy. Certainly other schools around the country & world use testing for admissions, but IB should be open to all. It's not a weed out program; it's inclusive. Of course, kids will weed themselves out if they are unwilling to do the work. But that's true in any course or program.

Then why IB is not open to all in MCPS? Students will welcome it if not need to test in.

Many HSs offer the same IB diploma program that RM does. They have dismal rates of students doing the IB diploma program.

RM IB is available to all students in RM without testing in, and very few students who have not tested in (aka non-magnet RM students), opt to do this program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it absolutely strange how non-magnet parents have an opinion about the program that does not take away from their children at all or impact them in any way. Would love some RMIB magnet parents to give their opinion about what is happening in the school.

Sometimes it is one person who can make or break a program. Hoover is/was the reason that the diploma rate is so high. The program is inclusive and the IB part is open to ANY student who wants to do it in the school. You would assume that everyone would jump at the opportunity to get in the magnet program or do the IB diploma. I guess the magnet IB workload and an extremely high achieving peer group dissuades many others from doing the program.

Unfortunately, there is no way the school can water down the program and still fulfill the IB requirement. MCPS mantra has been to lower capability, merit and achievement to create the illusion that students are not performing at different levels.

My high achieving RM non-magnet student was exposed to PYP and MYP and thrilled to leave it behind after 10th grade. Not the workload or the competitive kids..just the structure of the classes and writing style. So happy to never hear the term reflection again!! He literally put the application form in the fire place and watched it burn. That is not to say it can not be a wonderful program for the right kid.

This is a hearty endorsement for the inclusivity of RMIB program. Yes, it is open to all RM students - magnet or non-magnet. Very few non-magnet students opt in to do the program because it is not the right program for them. Every RM student have access and opportunity to do this. Majority of the talk about magnet IB not being inclusive is coming from the parents of students who are not interested in doing the program in the first place. The same goes for AP courses. No one can force a kid to be on the AP track or take an AP course. Either the kid is interested and capable or they are not.

Let me draw a parallel - all the people who are in US Navy, do not train to be a Navy Seal. It is the very few who have the ability and the determination that get chosen to become Navy Seals - mainly because it is tougher than being a sailor. AP , IB, Magnet - requires a lot of sacrifice of time and effort

The magnet programs were never put in place to serve the needs of the highly gifted children in MCPS. It was put in place as a poorly conceived social engineering experiment in low performing schools. Perhaps, MCPS should create seperate majority magnet schools like Poolesville HS. That way there will not be a school within a school.

No..there is really no reason why that kid can't take AP GOV with your magnet kid! He would if they both went to BCC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do any MCPS IB high schools offer the IB career track? Why not?

What is an IB career track?

All the HSs that offer IB have the same diploma option that RMIB offers. The problem is that most students do not want to do the full IB diploma because that adds to the workload of MCPS HS requirements and the college application process. Besides, the IB exam papers are graded by examiners in other countries, so the US students need to up their game and actually compete internationally. No scope of grade inflation here.

With the IB career program students take much of the same courses and content as the IB diploma program, but are aiming for apprenticeships or jobs post graduation. It's relatively new, but the most inclusive manifestation of IB. http://www.ibo.org/programmes/career-related-programme/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do any MCPS IB high schools offer the IB career track? Why not?

What is an IB career track?

All the HSs that offer IB have the same diploma option that RMIB offers. The problem is that most students do not want to do the full IB diploma because that adds to the workload of MCPS HS requirements and the college application process. Besides, the IB exam papers are graded by examiners in other countries, so the US students need to up their game and actually compete internationally. No scope of grade inflation here.

With the IB career program students take much of the same courses and content as the IB diploma program, but are aiming for apprenticeships or jobs post graduation. It's relatively new, but the most inclusive manifestation of IB. http://www.ibo.org/programmes/career-related-programme/

maybe PP should contact IB coordinator about this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

My high achieving RM non-magnet student was exposed to PYP and MYP and thrilled to leave it behind after 10th grade. Not the workload or the competitive kids..just the structure of the classes and writing style. So happy to never hear the term reflection again!! He literally put the application form in the fire place and watched it burn. That is not to say it can not be a wonderful program for the right kid.

This is a hearty endorsement for the inclusivity of RMIB program. Yes, it is open to all RM students - magnet or non-magnet. Very few non-magnet students opt in to do the program because it is not the right program for them. Every RM student have access and opportunity to do this. Majority of the talk about magnet IB not being inclusive is coming from the parents of students who are not interested in doing the program in the first place. The same goes for AP courses. No one can force a kid to be on the AP track or take an AP course. Either the kid is interested and capable or they are not.

Let me draw a parallel - all the people who are in US Navy, do not train to be a Navy Seal. It is the very few who have the ability and the determination that get chosen to become Navy Seals - mainly because it is tougher than being a sailor. AP , IB, Magnet - requires a lot of sacrifice of time and effort

The magnet programs were never put in place to serve the needs of the highly gifted children in MCPS. It was put in place as a poorly conceived social engineering experiment in low performing schools. Perhaps, MCPS should create seperate majority magnet schools like Poolesville HS. That way there will not be a school within a school.


This is factually incorrect. The test-in magnet programs in MCPS were established for gifted education, and they were placed in the schools they were placed because that's where there was room at the time. There's more information about the history of the test-in magnet programs in the study by Metis Associates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it absolutely strange how non-magnet parents have an opinion about the program that does not take away from their children at all or impact them in any way. Would love some RMIB magnet parents to give their opinion about what is happening in the school.

Sometimes it is one person who can make or break a program. Hoover is/was the reason that the diploma rate is so high. The program is inclusive and the IB part is open to ANY student who wants to do it in the school. You would assume that everyone would jump at the opportunity to get in the magnet program or do the IB diploma. I guess the magnet IB workload and an extremely high achieving peer group dissuades many others from doing the program.

Unfortunately, there is no way the school can water down the program and still fulfill the IB requirement. MCPS mantra has been to lower capability, merit and achievement to create the illusion that students are not performing at different levels.

My high achieving RM non-magnet student was exposed to PYP and MYP and thrilled to leave it behind after 10th grade. Not the workload or the competitive kids..just the structure of the classes and writing style. So happy to never hear the term reflection again!! He literally put the application form in the fire place and watched it burn. That is not to say it can not be a wonderful program for the right kid.

This is a hearty endorsement for the inclusivity of RMIB program. Yes, it is open to all RM students - magnet or non-magnet. Very few non-magnet students opt in to do the program because it is not the right program for them. Every RM student have access and opportunity to do this. Majority of the talk about magnet IB not being inclusive is coming from the parents of students who are not interested in doing the program in the first place. The same goes for AP courses. No one can force a kid to be on the AP track or take an AP course. Either the kid is interested and capable or they are not.

Let me draw a parallel - all the people who are in US Navy, do not train to be a Navy Seal. It is the very few who have the ability and the determination that get chosen to become Navy Seals - mainly because it is tougher than being a sailor. AP , IB, Magnet - requires a lot of sacrifice of time and effort

The magnet programs were never put in place to serve the needs of the highly gifted children in MCPS. It was put in place as a poorly conceived social engineering experiment in low performing schools. Perhaps, MCPS should create seperate majority magnet schools like Poolesville HS. That way there will not be a school within a school.

No..there is really no reason why that kid can't take AP GOV with your magnet kid! He would if they both went to BCC.

How can you say that all of the US Navy do not train t be Navy Seals. Some certainly do!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a lot of rumors last year about her leaving. Due to conflict/disagreement with the new principal. Have not heard anything recently. The new principal is viewed as "anti magnet."

Which is the right path to take. As more and more colleges look less at AP's (as they lose money off of them) and look at the overall person for admittance, magnets and IB's are starting to take a turn.

Colleges don't lose money because of AP courses. If credit is awarded, the space can be given to another student anyway.

Most colleges don't award the AP credits anyway. And if they do, many kids repeat classes, especially if they have to take specialized courses. None of the high school AP classes are on par with an actual college class at a decent college. Not by a long shot. Most college prep and decent privates don't offer AP's at all or just in senior and occasionally junior year. Most publication offer them to up their ridiculous already weighted GPA's. MCPS has the highest GPA's because of how many they consider honors, how they round up every grade, they don't give finals, and they offer weighted courses as young as 6th grade for courses that truly aren't weighted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: "since IB is so very hard and these kids need the cohort"

But no other IB High School in MCPS has this cohort..

This is the only test in program, which goes against the IB philosophy. Certainly other schools around the country & world use testing for admissions, but IB should be open to all. It's not a weed out program; it's inclusive. Of course, kids will weed themselves out if they are unwilling to do the work. But that's true in any course or program.

Then why IB is not open to all in MCPS? Students will welcome it if not need to test in.

Many HSs offer the same IB diploma program that RM does. They have dismal rates of students doing the IB diploma program.

RM IB is available to all students in RM without testing in, and very few students who have not tested in (aka non-magnet RM students), opt to do this program.

Because the only kids that opt in have tiger moms who force them to apply and then put in appeals until their snowflake gets in. The rest of the parents are cool with their kids not getting 4-5hrs of homework a night for years.