Ugh! 64% of DC family leave act benefits to go to MD. and VA..residents

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Anonymous wrote:I thought benefits only went to DC residents. Not people working for dc based companies.

Read the article in today's post. As written they go to anyone who works in DC, regardless of where they live. Calculations are that fully 64% of these taxes levvied on DC businesses will benefit non D.C. residents. It's scandalous legislation from ultra liberal Elisa Silverman supported by all but two of her fellow councilmembers. This is their priority these days.

It's a payroll tax of .62 percent. And the payroll is paid to Va, Md and DC residents. Are you suggesting that a tax levied on the payroll of Va and Md residents be used exclusively for DC residents and the others can just go F-themselves? What do you plan to do with the excess funding?

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From an employer's perspective, it's much easier to administer for people working in DC versus people living in DC. This is not much different than DCFMLA which provides 16 weeks to folks WORKING in DC.

When you look at places like California and more specifically San Francisco, I believe the legislation there is based on work location over residence as well. Is it fair? I don't know but I do know that it's pretty difficult to remain in compliance if you are basing employment law off of residence versus work location.

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If you work in DC then unemployment taxes are paid into the DC system.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh! Ugh ugh ugh! All I want is a livable city where everyone's interests are.looked out for including actual residents and the businesses we need here. Who is this at large rep elisa Silverman who wrote this bill? Is she representing DC or Portland? Everything about this act is half baked including that we have nothing in place to oversee this program. Also, we don't have a.commuter tax but are now shelling out benefits in the opposite direction? I mean, c'mon! I'm pretty horrified. I will be calling my councilmembers and the Mayor today to voice that this one needs to go back to the drawing boards. Our council seems only capable of enacting ultra liberal legislation; incapable of examining liberal legislation that doesn't work - like the DC criminal youth rehabilitation act. Once its here, its here. I dont know who is well represented by this act. Not DC. Not our businesses.

The faux outrage of AstroTurf is cute.

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Anonymous wrote:The final.vpte hasn't been made . Mayor Bowser is iffy on this. Make your voice heard. Only two councilmembers (Evans and one other) voted no. Male your voices heard!

Does this work? I wrote the Mayor's office about this issue during an earlier version, where they were proposing to make government employees pay this themselves since they can't force the federal government to levy this tax and couldn't otherwise make the financials work, but we would not be eligible to receive the benefit. Not sure if that still stands, I haven't read the most recent version to be honest. But my point being, I wrote and never heard back, not even an acknowledgement that the office received my concern. I both emailed the letter and mailed it.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree - benefits should be for DC residents only. Also- is it just me or is 2 weeks paid sick leave pretty excessive? Seems like there is potential for abuse there. Let's give our local businesses a chance. All the new retail here is a big part of what's making the city attractive and resulting in net population gains. Let's not screw that up.

So are you wanting to build a wall around DC? This is awfully close to a segregationist/isolationist viewpoint...

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of paying more in taxes than most people make. Now how much are my taxes going to go up for this crap? What the hell is the point in passing something that doesn't even mostly benefit DC residents?

You have two choices:

1. move
2. keep hounding your politicians/vote them out

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Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of paying more in taxes than most people make. Now how much are my taxes going to go up for this crap? What the hell is the point in passing something that doesn't even mostly benefit DC residents?

You have two choices:

1. move
2. keep hounding your politicians/vote them out

NP. I really am hoping to move. Someone else would love to deal with the headaches of trying to understand DC elected officials. 2. I do hound them and recently told Kenyon he was a dumb ass, but hey they don't respond

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So ridiculous that commuters are covered. Then, if we are paying for commuters, DC kids should go free to the MD and VA public schools

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Anonymous wrote:So ridiculous that commuters are covered. Then, if we are paying for commuters, DC kids should go free to the MD and VA public schools

It's a payroll tax. You don't want to cover them but you do want to tax them? Is that it? Or, just tax the payroll of DC Residents? Ok. But that tax will be much higher than .62 percent.

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DC Liberals just got mugged. Handouts suck, don't they?

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Anonymous wrote:So ridiculous that commuters are covered. Then, if we are paying for commuters, DC kids should go free to the MD and VA public schools

It's a payroll tax. You don't want to cover them but you do want to tax them? Is that it? Or, just tax the payroll of DC Residents? Ok. But that tax will be much higher than .62 percent.

Pardon my obtuseness but can you explain "its a payroll tax"? Thanks

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Anonymous wrote:So ridiculous that commuters are covered. Then, if we are paying for commuters, DC kids should go free to the MD and VA public schools

It's a payroll tax. You don't want to cover them but you do want to tax them? Is that it? Or, just tax the payroll of DC Residents? Ok. But that tax will be much higher than .62 percent.

Pardon my obtuseness but can you explain "its a payroll tax"? Thanks

It is a tax on a payroll. I know. Not helpful.

The employer pays a .62% tax on wages paid. If he pays 100,000 dollars in payroll, he pays $620 in tax to fund this program. If 10,000 is paid to a DC resident and 90,000 to a Md resident he still pays all 620.

Who should benefit from that? DC resident employees or all of them? Like the employer paid premiums for unemployment, etc.

If only DC residents benefit, why is it fair to tax payroll paid to Va or Md residents?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So ridiculous that commuters are covered. Then, if we are paying for commuters, DC kids should go free to the MD and VA public schools

It's a payroll tax. You don't want to cover them but you do want to tax them? Is that it? Or, just tax the payroll of DC Residents? Ok. But that tax will be much higher than .62 percent.

Pardon my obtuseness but can you explain "its a payroll tax"? Thanks

It is a tax on a payroll. I know. Not helpful.

The employer pays a .62% tax on wages paid. If he pays 100,000 dollars in payroll, he pays $620 in tax to fund this program. If 10,000 is paid to a DC resident and 90,000 to a Md resident he still pays all 620.

Who should benefit from that? DC resident employees or all of them? Like the employer paid premiums for unemployment, etc.

If only DC residents benefit, why is it fair to tax payroll paid to Va or Md residents?

The VA and MD residents aren't getting taxed though. Just the DC company, right? And I assume those companies will pass a lot of the costs through to their customers, who will likely live in DC. If the MD and VA residents don't like it, they could always look for a job in the state in which they live.

Honestly, I wish they'd drop the stupid bill altogether.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So ridiculous that commuters are covered. Then, if we are paying for commuters, DC kids should go free to the MD and VA public schools

It's a payroll tax. You don't want to cover them but you do want to tax them? Is that it? Or, just tax the payroll of DC Residents? Ok. But that tax will be much higher than .62 percent.

Pardon my obtuseness but can you explain "its a payroll tax"? Thanks

It is a tax on a payroll. I know. Not helpful.

The employer pays a .62% tax on wages paid. If he pays 100,000 dollars in payroll, he pays $620 in tax to fund this program. If 10,000 is paid to a DC resident and 90,000 to a Md resident he still pays all 620.

Who should benefit from that? DC resident employees or all of them? Like the employer paid premiums for unemployment, etc.

If only DC residents benefit, why is it fair to tax payroll paid to Va or Md residents?

The VA and MD residents aren't getting taxed though. Just the DC company, right? And I assume those companies will pass a lot of the costs through to their customers, who will likely live in DC. If the MD and VA residents don't like it, they could always look for a job in the state in which they live.

Honestly, I wish they'd drop the stupid bill altogether.

All that's true. But, from an office politics perspective it will be a big problem.

The idea is fine, but if you're going to do something like this it will only work if it's implemented like unemployment.