Loudoun breaking new ground!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. Rejection is a part of life, but public rejection does not need to be. If your company is doing layoffs, do they line everyone up and publicly announce who gets to keep their job? If you don’t think that would be appropriate for adults, why do you think it would be appropriate for children?

Please stop. This is a ridiculous comment. This happens at most tryouts where players are moved to their respective teams in front of all of the other candidates. I’m sorry your DC was cut or moved down. They will be better for it in the long run. Teaching moment - it will teach them to persevere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Rejection is a part of life, but public rejection does not need to be. If your company is doing layoffs, do they line everyone up and publicly announce who gets to keep their job? If you don’t think that would be appropriate for adults, why do you think it would be appropriate for children?

Please stop. This is a ridiculous comment. This happens at most tryouts where players are moved to their respective teams in front of all of the other candidates. I’m sorry your DC was cut or moved down. They will be better for it in the long run. Teaching moment - it will teach them to persevere.

Never happened at any tryout I’ve been to over many years with two DCs. Players moved around fields to play with different people, sure. Maybe something can be read into that, maybe not. But expressly saying, “you, you, and you, yes. The rest of you, better luck next year”? No. Never happened. As PP said, decisions should go out privately.

[Anonymous]

I'm told this was ok'd by the ceo and cso

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Rejection is a part of life, but public rejection does not need to be. If your company is doing layoffs, do they line everyone up and publicly announce who gets to keep their job? If you don’t think that would be appropriate for adults, why do you think it would be appropriate for children?

Please stop. This is a ridiculous comment. This happens at most tryouts where players are moved to their respective teams in front of all of the other candidates. I’m sorry your DC was cut or moved down. They will be better for it in the long run. Teaching moment - it will teach them to persevere.

You stop. You know nothing about child development or psychology. There is no benefit to being rejected in front of peers. I know of what I speak. That is not a growth experience; it’s an experience that causes shame. The teaching moment can happen through a conversation between the parent/coach and player when they get cut or moved down. You need to separate the rejection from the public aspect of it. I’m sorry for your children that you are raising them with such little awareness of things that can affect them greatly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Rejection is a part of life, but public rejection does not need to be. If your company is doing layoffs, do they line everyone up and publicly announce who gets to keep their job? If you don’t think that would be appropriate for adults, why do you think it would be appropriate for children?

Please stop. This is a ridiculous comment. This happens at most tryouts where players are moved to their respective teams in front of all of the other candidates. I’m sorry your DC was cut or moved down. They will be better for it in the long run. Teaching moment - it will teach them to persevere.

Never happened at any tryout I’ve been to over many years with two DCs. Players moved around fields to play with different people, sure. Maybe something can be read into that, maybe not. But expressly saying, “you, you, and you, yes. The rest of you, better luck next year”? No. Never happened. As PP said, decisions should go out privately.

Yea, it’s way better to get ignored at the tryouts, go home, wait weeks for an email that may or not come, come on DCUM and complain excessively on how the tryout process is broken and not transparent and leaves your DC in limbo. Agree, not the soft landing you might want but they ain’t babies either. Maybe the parents are though.

[Anonymous]

That's revolting. I would not let my child play for a coach who did that.

What are the coach's initials?

[Anonymous]

Possible everyone is right?

yes to kids pretty much knowing if they made a team or not by field movement during the tryout (seen many kids start crying when moved)

yes to the public rejections and offers being tough

yes to being ignored and waiting days (probably not weeks) as tough.

add- awkwardness when being the one telling your kid they didn't make it and they ask why not?

only additional thing I heard was that not every offer was made then and there. So, maybe some of the other kids did/will make the team in the end? Does anyone know if they dismissed them and said "no offer" or "second team" on the spot?

[Anonymous]

Something similar happened for a u11 all-star tryout last year. The coach publicly decided who was going to be on the A team, and who was going to be on the B team.

My daughter saw her friends go on the A-team, while she ended up on the B-team. There were many girls but picked for either team.

At the time, the parents thought it was messed up. For my daughter, it motivated her to work harder to earn the spot the following year. There may have been other girls who gave up and left the club. My daughter was telling me about an incident in gym class where her friend picked 2 good players for 3 v 3 basketball instead of her friends. The friend was upset about it, and it became a whole thing in the friend group and now player picker has been outcast. If our teams are based on politics rather than talent, then it’s really not that serious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Rejection is a part of life, but public rejection does not need to be. If your company is doing layoffs, do they line everyone up and publicly announce who gets to keep their job? If you don’t think that would be appropriate for adults, why do you think it would be appropriate for children?

Please stop. This is a ridiculous comment. This happens at most tryouts where players are moved to their respective teams in front of all of the other candidates. I’m sorry your DC was cut or moved down. They will be better for it in the long run. Teaching moment - it will teach them to persevere.

Never happened at any tryout I’ve been to over many years with two DCs. Players moved around fields to play with different people, sure. Maybe something can be read into that, maybe not. But expressly saying, “you, you, and you, yes. The rest of you, better luck next year”? No. Never happened. As PP said, decisions should go out privately.

Yea, it’s way better to get ignored at the tryouts, go home, wait weeks for an email that may or not come, come on DCUM and complain excessively on how the tryout process is broken and not transparent and leaves your DC in limbo. Agree, not the soft landing you might want but they ain’t babies either. Maybe the parents are though.

It is better. You know why? Because you as a parent can talk with your kid during that awful in between time and tell them that their self worth does not depend on what team they make, and that everyone deserves to be on a team where they are wanted, and that you as a parent will help them figure out that right fit. Being in limbo is a normal part of putting yourself out there for an opportunity you really want, and it’s good for kids to learn that. Being directly told you aren’t good enough, verbally in front of your peers, with no debriefing or follow up in the moment, is just a terrible way to make team selections for kids that are still quite young. That is an experience that sticks with you in a bad way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Something similar happened for a u11 all-star tryout last year. The coach publicly decided who was going to be on the A team, and who was going to be on the B team.

My daughter saw her friends go on the A-team, while she ended up on the B-team. There were many girls but picked for either team.

At the time, the parents thought it was messed up. For my daughter, it motivated her to work harder to earn the spot the following year. There may have been other girls who gave up and left the club. My daughter was telling me about an incident in gym class where her friend picked 2 good players for 3 v 3 basketball instead of her friends. The friend was upset about it, and it became a whole thing in the friend group and now player picker has been outcast. If our teams are based on politics rather than talent, then it’s really not that serious.

An all star team and a team being picked by kids during a gym class are not at all the same as a full year travel team where the kids have already been playing together for a year or more. You’re comparing apples to oranges here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hearing it third hand, so take it for what it is worth. But apparently they made their roster selections last night at the end of tryouts - in front of everybody!!

Great way to make a handful of kids happy while absolutely crushing the spirits and embarrassing dozens of others! Believe it was either u11 or u12. Can’t imagine how those kids felt if they were going down or didn’t make a team.

How horribly run do you need to be to think that’s a good idea?!

Can confirm. But it was limited.

New guy who is top team coach made his selections in front of others. Did so right after the top field tryout ended and everybody came over.

Only impacted a small # with 13 or 14 very happy kids and at least 2 or 3 we saw in tears or close to it who apparently weren’t selected and were being pushed off first team in process witnessed by their current teammates.

Was a shi**y thing to do.

Is it JC who came over from Valor? I heard the Valor parents were very happy to see him leave.

[Anonymous]

That's disgusting behavior and I'm shocked to hear Loudoun gave him permission to do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hearing it third hand, so take it for what it is worth. But apparently they made their roster selections last night at the end of tryouts - in front of everybody!!

Great way to make a handful of kids happy while absolutely crushing the spirits and embarrassing dozens of others! Believe it was either u11 or u12. Can’t imagine how those kids felt if they were going down or didn’t make a team.

How horribly run do you need to be to think that’s a good idea?!

Can confirm. But it was limited.

New guy who is top team coach made his selections in front of others. Did so right after the top field tryout ended and everybody came over.

Only impacted a small # with 13 or 14 very happy kids and at least 2 or 3 we saw in tears or close to it who apparently weren’t selected and were being pushed off first team in process witnessed by their current teammates.

Was a shi**y thing to do.

Is it JC who came over from Valor? I heard the Valor parents were very happy to see him leave.

If true, that tracks. Valor has a terrible culture on the boys side of coaches being mean to kids and kids being mean to each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hearing it third hand, so take it for what it is worth. But apparently they made their roster selections last night at the end of tryouts - in front of everybody!!

Great way to make a handful of kids happy while absolutely crushing the spirits and embarrassing dozens of others! Believe it was either u11 or u12. Can’t imagine how those kids felt if they were going down or didn’t make a team.

How horribly run do you need to be to think that’s a good idea?!

Can confirm. But it was limited.

New guy who is top team coach made his selections in front of others. Did so right after the top field tryout ended and everybody came over.

Only impacted a small # with 13 or 14 very happy kids and at least 2 or 3 we saw in tears or close to it who apparently weren’t selected and were being pushed off first team in process witnessed by their current teammates.

Was a shi**y thing to do.

Is it JC who came over from Valor? I heard the Valor parents were very happy to see him leave.

If true, that tracks. Valor has a terrible culture on the boys side of coaches being mean to kids and kids being mean to each other.

Yes, one year at Valor was enough for us. The coach was so ugly to the boys that many quit playing after that year. I think the guys in charge are nasty bullies and hire for that culture.

[Anonymous]

The Loudoun tryouts were a joke. We only attended day 2. The coaches weren’t even paying attention. My son advanced up 3 teams throughout the night. He scored 5 goals on the 3rd scrimmage… the coach had his back turned and missed all 5 of them. It’s as if they already knew what the teams were and gave zero F’s about anyone new trying out. There was one scrimmage of 11v11 on a quarter sized field, the same sized field rec kids play 4v4 on and the coach was yelling at the boys to stop bunching up. Bro, there’s no space for them to spread out.