pointless onsite requirement

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You do a lot of things that are required by your employer, but for some reason you feel like this is optional and ridiculous. You can always feel free to find a fully remote job instead of starting yet another thread about how in office requirement is so unfair. I'm getting tired of these whiny posts.


Working alone in an office for hours on end makes sense if you're a security guard. Or if you work in a data center with only a handful of other people. Or a park ranger stationed in a lookout tower watching for wildfires. In those situations, being onsite, and alone, is part of the job. Why does writing reports, creating presentations and jumping on Teams calls require sitting at a desk in an empty office for hours on end? Will the building foundation crumble if at least one human body is not in a cubicle?


I'm not debating with you what makes sense or what doesn't. It's a requirement by your employer. Either comply or find another job. But either way, grow up and stop whining.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You are there to prop up their CRE investments and/or CRE sunk costs. To a lesser degree it may be a way to reduce headcount through attrition.

There are (potential) job-relevant benefits to working on site, but no company has ever cared about them. It's literally all CRE, attrition, and a little bit of optics for a certain type of manager.


+1 most places want to reduce headcount in this bad economy
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I realized last week that I could drop dead at my desk and no one would know. The cleaning team would find me laying on the floor that evening.


whomp whomp

Lots of people would kill for your job
Anonymous
I think hybrid would be really nice. We're all in 5 days a week. It really has increased our camaraderie and cohesiveness. It took a while though.

If you hole yourself away in your office, that is part of the problem. We have our doors open, some in person meetings, even talking around the coffee maker has helped.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I realized last week that I could drop dead at my desk and no one would know. The cleaning team would find me laying on the floor that evening.


whomp whomp

Lots of people would kill for your job


I’m sure they do, but I tend to think that when people focus too much on superficial things like if you’re in a chair at the office it’s because they're incompetent and not sure what else to do to lead their organization and get results and generate revenue. So they focus on chair usage because it’s easy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think hybrid would be really nice. We're all in 5 days a week. It really has increased our camaraderie and cohesiveness. It took a while though.

If you hole yourself away in your office, that is part of the problem. We have our doors open, some in person meetings, even talking around the coffee maker has helped.


At least everybody’s in the office.
The situation I’m talking about is when the organization makes employees report to an empty building and they are the ones being holed away.
Anonymous
Most employers suck!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Most employers suck!!


That's why you're paid and its a job, not a hobby
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I realized last week that I could drop dead at my desk and no one would know. The cleaning team would find me laying on the floor that evening.


Unless the cleaning team was working from home.
Anonymous
Yep, it’s stupid and pointing that out isn’t whining (even if some lackeys try to claim it is).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yep, it’s stupid and pointing that out isn’t whining (even if some lackeys try to claim it is).


Pointing it out to us is more than stupid and it's most definitely whining. If you feel so certain, go talk to your employer.
Anonymous
I'm required to go in 3x a week. I go in one day. My primary supervisor is in a different office from me, and whether I'm home or in the office, all my meetings are remote and from my individual office. I am able to bill way less in the office between the commute and the chitchat.

Because I'm a high biller, I've been able to get away with it. But I know failing to comply with the policy makes me an easy target. I just don't care enough and the policy is incredibly dumb.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You do a lot of things that are required by your employer, but for some reason you feel like this is optional and ridiculous. You can always feel free to find a fully remote job instead of starting yet another thread about how in office requirement is so unfair. I'm getting tired of these whiny posts.


Working alone in an office for hours on end makes sense if you're a security guard. Or if you work in a data center with only a handful of other people. Or a park ranger stationed in a lookout tower watching for wildfires. In those situations, being onsite, and alone, is part of the job. Why does writing reports, creating presentations and jumping on Teams calls require sitting at a desk in an empty office for hours on end? Will the building foundation crumble if at least one human body is not in a cubicle?


I'm not debating with you what makes sense or what doesn't. It's a requirement by your employer. Either comply or find another job. But either way, grow up and stop whining.


I don't/won't comply. They can tell me to find a new job. Unfortunately for them, I'm too valuable to fire for something so stupid.
Anonymous
It's the over-employed people ruining it for everybody else.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You do a lot of things that are required by your employer, but for some reason you feel like this is optional and ridiculous. You can always feel free to find a fully remote job instead of starting yet another thread about how in office requirement is so unfair. I'm getting tired of these whiny posts.


Working alone in an office for hours on end makes sense if you're a security guard. Or if you work in a data center with only a handful of other people. Or a park ranger stationed in a lookout tower watching for wildfires. In those situations, being onsite, and alone, is part of the job. Why does writing reports, creating presentations and jumping on Teams calls require sitting at a desk in an empty office for hours on end? Will the building foundation crumble if at least one human body is not in a cubicle?


I'm not debating with you what makes sense or what doesn't. It's a requirement by your employer. Either comply or find another job. But either way, grow up and stop whining.


I don't/won't comply. They can tell me to find a new job. Unfortunately for them, I'm too valuable to fire for something so stupid.


HAHAHA sure you are. You type this out as you are sitting in your office, dutifully complying. You're full of shit.
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