MCPS gave County list of snow issues on Sunday at 2:13 pm. Under 2 hours later MCPS blamed County for Monday closure

[Anonymous]

I guess this is devil's advocate, but why is it MCPS's job to tell the county where to clear the roads properly? The job being done properly should be the default and the fact that it had been a week since the storm and the county hadn't already figured that out in response to all the complaints and 311 calls they were getting, or by simply driving around and seeing what a mess things are, is ridiculous and not on MCPS.

MCPS probably kept waiting for the county to do the job taxpayers pay for of its own initiative, because that's how government services are supposed to work. Not only bothering to get around to it because the school system nagged them. "How could we be expected to know we did a bad job until MCPS told us at 2:13 on a Sunday?" What an absurd excuse. Why don't you supervise your own clearing efforts and monitor progress through some kind of organized system like an actual competent department?

The plowing job on surface streets has been completely subpar and an embarrassment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess this is devil's advocate, but why is it MCPS's job to tell the county where to clear the roads properly? The job being done properly should be the default and the fact that it had been a week since the storm and the county hadn't already figured that out in response to all the complaints and 311 calls they were getting, or by simply driving around and seeing what a mess things are, is ridiculous and not on MCPS.

MCPS probably kept waiting for the county to do the job taxpayers pay for of its own initiative, because that's how government services are supposed to work. Not only bothering to get around to it because the school system nagged them. "How could we be expected to know we did a bad job until MCPS told us at 2:13 on a Sunday?" What an absurd excuse. Why don't you supervise your own clearing efforts and monitor progress through some kind of organized system like an actual competent department?

The plowing job on surface streets has been completely subpar and an embarrassment.

MCPS and the County both dropped the ball.

[Anonymous]

Does the county have a map of MCPS bus routes and bus stops?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard about that. I think MCPS was asleep at the wheel all of last week, not realizing that this snowstorm was different from all the other storms we've had, and that snowplows had great difficulty clearing the ice... and so MCPS panicked over the weekend when they realized parents would be furious if Monday wasn't open, and threw everyone under the bus. I noticed they blamed homeowners as well.

They were asleep because they didn't have to go to work at all. Code Red means everything is closed, and it was Code Red Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday of last week. GMAFB

Meanwhile, Taylor had time to make two videos to show his genuine excitement about the snow.

His part in the video production is maybe an hour. It’s not a big deal. People are allowed to have fun at work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Listening to County Council snow session now. Rich Madaleno stated in response to a question from Councilmember Balcombe that MCPS first formally communicated with the County a list of issues they needed fixed at 2:13pm in Sunday. Less than 2 hours later they send out a public message blaming the County for MCPS's decision to close on Monday.

County council loves DC Urban Moms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess this is devil's advocate, but why is it MCPS's job to tell the county where to clear the roads properly? The job being done properly should be the default and the fact that it had been a week since the storm and the county hadn't already figured that out in response to all the complaints and 311 calls they were getting, or by simply driving around and seeing what a mess things are, is ridiculous and not on MCPS.

MCPS probably kept waiting for the county to do the job taxpayers pay for of its own initiative, because that's how government services are supposed to work. Not only bothering to get around to it because the school system nagged them. "How could we be expected to know we did a bad job until MCPS told us at 2:13 on a Sunday?" What an absurd excuse. Why don't you supervise your own clearing efforts and monitor progress through some kind of organized system like an actual competent department?

The plowing job on surface streets has been completely subpar and an embarrassment.

I was thinking something similar nearly all the bus stops and walking paths are on residential property. MCPS was updating what schools were cleared on their social media. As they said Monday, schools were ready but the routes and stops were not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess this is devil's advocate, but why is it MCPS's job to tell the county where to clear the roads properly? The job being done properly should be the default and the fact that it had been a week since the storm and the county hadn't already figured that out in response to all the complaints and 311 calls they were getting, or by simply driving around and seeing what a mess things are, is ridiculous and not on MCPS.

MCPS probably kept waiting for the county to do the job taxpayers pay for of its own initiative, because that's how government services are supposed to work. Not only bothering to get around to it because the school system nagged them. "How could we be expected to know we did a bad job until MCPS told us at 2:13 on a Sunday?" What an absurd excuse. Why don't you supervise your own clearing efforts and monitor progress through some kind of organized system like an actual competent department?

The plowing job on surface streets has been completely subpar and an embarrassment.

The problem is that the county's priority is to make the roads passable. MCPS wants THEIR bus stops and THEIR bus routes to be cleared to an understandably higher standard, but have they communicated with the county about these needs? Have they given them a map of the MCPS stops and bus routes?

And if really want to open schools on Monday, why would they wait until Sunday to communicate about issues and also publicly blast the county about those issues?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does the county have a map of MCPS bus routes and bus stops?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/transportation/busroutes/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does the county have a map of MCPS bus routes and bus stops?

Why would that matter? They're on roads. The roads should have been cleared. All of them. The county pretending like they only know a 6-foot high mound of ice at a neighborhood intersection is a problem because MCPS reports it to them is ridiculous. Forget the bus stop aspect, it interferes with driver sight lines and is slipshod plowing practice. Why are they not quality checking their own work and monitoring their progress? Blaming MCPS for pointing out the obvious?

[Anonymous]

Btw I have lived in a couple of snowy places and I don't remember anywhere that during a snow storm plowed their streets completely to the curb. In MoCo certainly not. But usually the snow melts in a few days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does the county have a map of MCPS bus routes and bus stops?

Why would that matter? They're on roads. The roads should have been cleared. All of them. The county pretending like they only know a 6-foot high mound of ice at a neighborhood intersection is a problem because MCPS reports it to them is ridiculous. Forget the bus stop aspect, it interferes with driver sight lines and is slipshod plowing practice. Why are they not quality checking their own work and monitoring their progress? Blaming MCPS for pointing out the obvious?

Where should they put the snow?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess this is devil's advocate, but why is it MCPS's job to tell the county where to clear the roads properly? The job being done properly should be the default and the fact that it had been a week since the storm and the county hadn't already figured that out in response to all the complaints and 311 calls they were getting, or by simply driving around and seeing what a mess things are, is ridiculous and not on MCPS.

MCPS probably kept waiting for the county to do the job taxpayers pay for of its own initiative, because that's how government services are supposed to work. Not only bothering to get around to it because the school system nagged them. "How could we be expected to know we did a bad job until MCPS told us at 2:13 on a Sunday?" What an absurd excuse. Why don't you supervise your own clearing efforts and monitor progress through some kind of organized system like an actual competent department?

The plowing job on surface streets has been completely subpar and an embarrassment.

The problem is that the county's priority is to make the roads passable. MCPS wants THEIR bus stops and THEIR bus routes to be cleared to an understandably higher standard, but have they communicated with the county about these needs? Have they given them a map of the MCPS stops and bus routes?

And if really want to open schools on Monday, why would they wait until Sunday to communicate about issues and also publicly blast the county about those issues?

The problem is, they made the roads only semi-passable and then seemingly threw in the towel.

The SHA is also to blame. Rockville Pike is a disgusting mess with missing lanes and random snowbanks everywhere.

[Anonymous]

People have been saying they haven't seen a plow in days. How MANY plows and heavy de icing equipment does MoCo have? Not enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess this is devil's advocate, but why is it MCPS's job to tell the county where to clear the roads properly? The job being done properly should be the default and the fact that it had been a week since the storm and the county hadn't already figured that out in response to all the complaints and 311 calls they were getting, or by simply driving around and seeing what a mess things are, is ridiculous and not on MCPS.

MCPS probably kept waiting for the county to do the job taxpayers pay for of its own initiative, because that's how government services are supposed to work. Not only bothering to get around to it because the school system nagged them. "How could we be expected to know we did a bad job until MCPS told us at 2:13 on a Sunday?" What an absurd excuse. Why don't you supervise your own clearing efforts and monitor progress through some kind of organized system like an actual competent department?

The plowing job on surface streets has been completely subpar and an embarrassment.

The problem is that the county's priority is to make the roads passable. MCPS wants THEIR bus stops and THEIR bus routes to be cleared to an understandably higher standard, but have they communicated with the county about these needs? Have they given them a map of the MCPS stops and bus routes?

And if really want to open schools on Monday, why would they wait until Sunday to communicate about issues and also publicly blast the county about those issues?

The problem is, they made the roads only semi-passable and then seemingly threw in the towel.

The SHA is also to blame. Rockville Pike is a disgusting mess with missing lanes and random snowbanks everywhere.

I haven't seen any "semi passable" roads since mid last week. Sidewalks yes, roads are all easily passable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess this is devil's advocate, but why is it MCPS's job to tell the county where to clear the roads properly? The job being done properly should be the default and the fact that it had been a week since the storm and the county hadn't already figured that out in response to all the complaints and 311 calls they were getting, or by simply driving around and seeing what a mess things are, is ridiculous and not on MCPS.

MCPS probably kept waiting for the county to do the job taxpayers pay for of its own initiative, because that's how government services are supposed to work. Not only bothering to get around to it because the school system nagged them. "How could we be expected to know we did a bad job until MCPS told us at 2:13 on a Sunday?" What an absurd excuse. Why don't you supervise your own clearing efforts and monitor progress through some kind of organized system like an actual competent department?

The plowing job on surface streets has been completely subpar and an embarrassment.

The problem is that the county's priority is to make the roads passable. MCPS wants THEIR bus stops and THEIR bus routes to be cleared to an understandably higher standard, but have they communicated with the county about these needs? Have they given them a map of the MCPS stops and bus routes?

And if really want to open schools on Monday, why would they wait until Sunday to communicate about issues and also publicly blast the county about those issues?

We call that if statements