I am so sick of government contractors hiring H1-B over US Citizens

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why U.S. federal agencies allow contractors such as BAH, Leidos, SAIC, and others to staff IT support roles—both onsite and remote—with H-1B workers. At the federal agency where I work, more than 80% of the IT support staff are neither U.S. citizens nor permanent residents. Meanwhile, many recent U.S. citizen computer science graduates are struggling to find jobs, even though taxpayer money is funding these positions filled by H-1B workers. Please make it make sense to me.

Is this a troll post? EO 13940 issued during Trump 1 made it very hard to hire H1B applicants into federal contracting positions. The “immigrants are stealing our jobs” dog whistle is still a popular one and might be true in the fully private sector but what you claim hasn’t been possible for five years.

Literally Trump just created a loophole and a secondary market to skirt the loophole. There are literally contract companies hired just I give visas and the people are employed at majors for a fraction of the cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why U.S. federal agencies allow contractors such as BAH, Leidos, SAIC, and others to staff IT support roles—both onsite and remote—with H-1B workers. At the federal agency where I work, more than 80% of the IT support staff are neither U.S. citizens nor permanent residents. Meanwhile, many recent U.S. citizen computer science graduates are struggling to find jobs, even though taxpayer money is funding these positions filled by H-1B workers. Please make it make sense to me.

Is this a troll post? EO 13940 issued during Trump 1 made it very hard to hire H1B applicants into federal contracting positions. The “immigrants are stealing our jobs” dog whistle is still a popular one and might be true in the fully private sector but what you claim hasn’t been possible for five years.

OP here. I am telling you that over 80% of the IT support staff at this federal agency are neither US Citizens nor Green card holders. I know this because they told me that they are neither US Citizens nor green card holder. Three people that work in my group are with a subcontractor for one of the above companies. They work on-site five days a week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Ask the “ quite quitting “ Gen Z influencers on Tik Tok.
I want colleagues who show up on time, do their fair share of the grunt work, have a work ethic and good attitude.

So many American graduates are revolting: lazy, unreliable and delusional egotists without substance backing it.

Give me an ambitious competent immigrant instead! At my local hospital the black and brown staff where the ones who where doing all the work!

I don't think the typical h1 at tata is competent. They are just cheap.
Management has a temporary boost to cost KPI, with long term consequence.

You two are both correct - they are hungry to work and cheaper. Op is typical blame the others generation.

DP

I’m not one to typically blame others but when I see multiple people in my generation (45+) get laid off and become unemployed and unemployable it makes me wonder- and think there is more to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Ask the “ quite quitting “ Gen Z influencers on Tik Tok.
I want colleagues who show up on time, do their fair share of the grunt work, have a work ethic and good attitude.

So many American graduates are revolting: lazy, unreliable and delusional egotists without substance backing it.

Give me an ambitious competent immigrant instead! At my local hospital the black and brown staff where the ones who where doing all the work!

I don't think the typical h1 at tata is competent. They are just cheap.
Management has a temporary boost to cost KPI, with long term consequence.

You two are both correct - they are hungry to work and cheaper. Op is typical blame the others generation.

DP

I’m not one to typically blame others but when I see multiple people in my generation (45+) get laid off and become unemployed and unemployable it makes me wonder- and think there is more to it.

I am slightly younger and my entire career was spent on transitioning work to offshore teams and I had to change jobs every couple of years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Ask the “ quite quitting “ Gen Z influencers on Tik Tok.
I want colleagues who show up on time, do their fair share of the grunt work, have a work ethic and good attitude.

So many American graduates are revolting: lazy, unreliable and delusional egotists without substance backing it.

Give me an ambitious competent immigrant instead! At my local hospital the black and brown staff where the ones who where doing all the work!

I don't think the typical h1 at tata is competent. They are just cheap.
Management has a temporary boost to cost KPI, with long term consequence.

You two are both correct - they are hungry to work and cheaper. Op is typical blame the others generation.

DP

I’m not one to typically blame others but when I see multiple people in my generation (45+) get laid off and become unemployed and unemployable it makes me wonder- and think there is more to it.

People doing low level IT work are the new factory workers in that it is cheaper to outsource the work. It is the reason that most top CS departments do not, and never did, focus on teaching IT or programming, but rather focus on science part of CS that will never be outsourced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why U.S. federal agencies allow contractors such as BAH, Leidos, SAIC, and others to staff IT support roles—both onsite and remote—with H-1B workers. At the federal agency where I work, more than 80% of the IT support staff are neither U.S. citizens nor permanent residents. Meanwhile, many recent U.S. citizen computer science graduates are struggling to find jobs, even though taxpayer money is funding these positions filled by H-1B workers. Please make it make sense to me.

many probably rather not to be part of the fed gov that the big boss disses everyday

[Anonymous]

I can't understand why the risk of espionage isn't more widely talked about. I worked for an NGO and we were worried about having Chinese-born American citizens working on legal issues related to the Uyghurs because China puts enormous pressure on some Chinese born people to report to the Chinese government. If Chinese or Indian citizens are working on our sensitive defense systems, you can be sure there is pressure for them to report back to their governments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't understand why the risk of espionage isn't more widely talked about. I worked for an NGO and we were worried about having Chinese-born American citizens working on legal issues related to the Uyghurs because China puts enormous pressure on some Chinese born people to report to the Chinese government. If Chinese or Indian citizens are working on our sensitive defense systems, you can be sure there is pressure for them to report back to their governments.

ok so now even naturalized citizens aren't good enough for you? maybe no jewish or muslim either coz, you know? and no catholics coz the pope...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why U.S. federal agencies allow contractors such as BAH, Leidos, SAIC, and others to staff IT support roles—both onsite and remote—with H-1B workers. At the federal agency where I work, more than 80% of the IT support staff are neither U.S. citizens nor permanent residents. Meanwhile, many recent U.S. citizen computer science graduates are struggling to find jobs, even though taxpayer money is funding these positions filled by H-1B workers. Please make it make sense to me.

Is this a troll post? EO 13940 issued during Trump 1 made it very hard to hire H1B applicants into federal contracting positions. The “immigrants are stealing our jobs” dog whistle is still a popular one and might be true in the fully private sector but what you claim hasn’t been possible for five years.

Literally Trump just created a loophole and a secondary market to skirt the loophole. There are literally contract companies hired just I give visas and the people are employed at majors for a fraction of the cost.

Accenture, Deloitte all hire H1b workers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why U.S. federal agencies allow contractors such as BAH, Leidos, SAIC, and others to staff IT support roles—both onsite and remote—with H-1B workers. At the federal agency where I work, more than 80% of the IT support staff are neither U.S. citizens nor permanent residents. Meanwhile, many recent U.S. citizen computer science graduates are struggling to find jobs, even though taxpayer money is funding these positions filled by H-1B workers. Please make it make sense to me.

Is this a troll post? EO 13940 issued during Trump 1 made it very hard to hire H1B applicants into federal contracting positions. The “immigrants are stealing our jobs” dog whistle is still a popular one and might be true in the fully private sector but what you claim hasn’t been possible for five years.

OP here. I am telling you that over 80% of the IT support staff at this federal agency are neither US Citizens nor Green card holders. I know this because they told me that they are neither US Citizens nor green card holder. Three people that work in my group are with a subcontractor for one of the above companies. They work on-site five days a week.

DP
I believe you and see it too. This is the subcontractor secondary market Trump created.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why U.S. federal agencies allow contractors such as BAH, Leidos, SAIC, and others to staff IT support roles—both onsite and remote—with H-1B workers. At the federal agency where I work, more than 80% of the IT support staff are neither U.S. citizens nor permanent residents. Meanwhile, many recent U.S. citizen computer science graduates are struggling to find jobs, even though taxpayer money is funding these positions filled by H-1B workers. Please make it make sense to me.

Is this a troll post? EO 13940 issued during Trump 1 made it very hard to hire H1B applicants into federal contracting positions. The “immigrants are stealing our jobs” dog whistle is still a popular one and might be true in the fully private sector but what you claim hasn’t been possible for five years.

Yep.

OP is either exaggerating, massively, or just completely making this up to rule up anti-immigrant sentiment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't understand why the risk of espionage isn't more widely talked about. I worked for an NGO and we were worried about having Chinese-born American citizens working on legal issues related to the Uyghurs because China puts enormous pressure on some Chinese born people to report to the Chinese government. If Chinese or Indian citizens are working on our sensitive defense systems, you can be sure there is pressure for them to report back to their governments.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why U.S. federal agencies allow contractors such as BAH, Leidos, SAIC, and others to staff IT support roles—both onsite and remote—with H-1B workers. At the federal agency where I work, more than 80% of the IT support staff are neither U.S. citizens nor permanent residents. Meanwhile, many recent U.S. citizen computer science graduates are struggling to find jobs, even though taxpayer money is funding these positions filled by H-1B workers. Please make it make sense to me.

Is this a troll post? EO 13940 issued during Trump 1 made it very hard to hire H1B applicants into federal contracting positions. The “immigrants are stealing our jobs” dog whistle is still a popular one and might be true in the fully private sector but what you claim hasn’t been possible for five years.

Yep.

OP is either exaggerating, massively, or just completely making this up to rule up anti-immigrant sentiment.

I am not exaggerating or making this up. I am going to tell you that this federal agency is on 12th street, and within walking distance from Le'fant Plaza metro and the Wharf.

[Anonymous]

The blatant and constant anti Indian racism on here is really something else. This type of nonsense against any other minority would get shut down at the speed of light but somehow it’s completely acceptable to spam messages bemoaning the very existence of Indian immigrants and casting aspersions on Indian Americans

[Anonymous]

Got no problem with Indians coming over here but presumably they'd want the same opportunities for their (now) US born children that the rest of us want. People work hard and pay taxes their entire lives just to have the rules changed on them so CEO bros can buy their 5th house or whatever, of course people are going to be PO'd about it.