TYR Suits for NCAP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else’s kids hate the TYR suites? Most of my swimmer’s group is holding onto their Speedos as long as they can.

We're not with NCAP, but are these practice suits that they are being encouraged to race in, or is the team branding the tech suits?

NCAP is now sponsored by Tyr. Assuming the requirements are similar to the Speedo sponsorship in prior years (my kid has since graduated so I haven't seen the handbook for this year), it means NCAP swimmers must wear Tyr suits at top level meets like KLI, Zones, PVS Champs, etc. unless granted an exception based on a professional fitting with a company rep. For practices and "lower level" meets (Opens, Turkey Claus, and the like) swimmers can wear whatever brand they want although I'm sure Tyr is preferred and the outfitting package for certain groups includes a Tyr suit meant for racing.

I’m not sure what question you’re responding to, but that’s not what PP asked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else’s kids hate the TYR suites? Most of my swimmer’s group is holding onto their Speedos as long as they can.

We're not with NCAP, but are these practice suits that they are being encouraged to race in, or is the team branding the tech suits?

NCAP is now sponsored by Tyr. Assuming the requirements are similar to the Speedo sponsorship in prior years (my kid has since graduated so I haven't seen the handbook for this year), it means NCAP swimmers must wear Tyr suits at top level meets like KLI, Zones, PVS Champs, etc. unless granted an exception based on a professional fitting with a company rep. For practices and "lower level" meets (Opens, Turkey Claus, and the like) swimmers can wear whatever brand they want although I'm sure Tyr is preferred and the outfitting package for certain groups includes a Tyr suit meant for racing.

My understanding is NCAP swimmers have a 1 year grace period before they have to switch over to TYR suits for championship meets

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else’s kids hate the TYR suites? Most of my swimmer’s group is holding onto their Speedos as long as they can.

We're not with NCAP, but are these practice suits that they are being encouraged to race in, or is the team branding the tech suits?

NCAP is now sponsored by Tyr. Assuming the requirements are similar to the Speedo sponsorship in prior years (my kid has since graduated so I haven't seen the handbook for this year), it means NCAP swimmers must wear Tyr suits at top level meets like KLI, Zones, PVS Champs, etc. unless granted an exception based on a professional fitting with a company rep. For practices and "lower level" meets (Opens, Turkey Claus, and the like) swimmers can wear whatever brand they want although I'm sure Tyr is preferred and the outfitting package for certain groups includes a Tyr suit meant for racing.

I’m not sure what question you’re responding to, but that’s not what PP asked.

I reread my response, and I did answer PPs questions...I just did it badly. PP asked "are these practice suits that they are being encouraged to race in" and I pointed out that NCAP swimmers can practice in any brand, and can wear any brand to race as long as it isn't a championship level meet. There is no team "practice suit"...our location was very clear that the branded suit included in the 12U outfitting package was specifically NOT to be worn to practice and most of DCs group didn't race in them either. PP also asked "or is the team branding the tech suits" and I'm not exactly sure what was meant by "branding"...if PP meant requiring Tyr brand then yes, I pointed out that being the case for certain meets but not all. If PP meant "branding" with an NCAP logo on the suit, then no, you can buy one from SwimOutlet, Metro Swim, or any other source you prefer as long as it meets the requirements for the meet your swimmer is attending.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, thanks. I had the same thought, order a bunch of suits from somewhere I can return them.

Just know that SwimOutlet has pretty strict stated rules for tech suit return. The suit must be “unworn and untried”, so technically they can deny a return if they can tell it’s been tried on. I don’t know how that plays out in reality, but I was VERY careful to use proper measurements the two times I ordered one from them.

Metro Swim Shop supposedly does an amazing job with fittings. I’d recommend going there if you can.

This has been our experience with Metro Swim Shop and it is now our preferred source. Not worth the hassle trying to do it online to save a few bucks.

We went to Metro last December to try on suits and they were amazing! We tried on SO many different suits and the woman working there was incredibly helpful. And they had a great selection of suits too, Definitely worth purchasing suits there.

[Anonymous]

I’m not sure NCAP can legally enforce their TYR brand suit policy. How can you force a kid to wear a certain suit, especially if you aren’t providing them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure NCAP can legally enforce their TYR brand suit policy. How can you force a kid to wear a certain suit, especially if you aren’t providing them.

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You scratch them at the champs meet for violating clearly-started team policy? You pull them from all relays at the minimum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure NCAP can legally enforce their TYR brand suit policy. How can you force a kid to wear a certain suit, especially if you aren’t providing them.

This is silly. The team can. It's a matter of if it wants to or not. The swimsuit is a uniform, just like any other sport. If the club contracts with a company to be the official outfitter of the club, the club risks penalties. Professional sports do this, colleges do this, high schools do this, club teams in other sports do this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure NCAP can legally enforce their TYR brand suit policy. How can you force a kid to wear a certain suit, especially if you aren’t providing them.

This is silly. The team can. It's a matter of if it wants to or not. The swimsuit is a uniform, just like any other sport. If the club contracts with a company to be the official outfitter of the club, the club risks penalties. Professional sports do this, colleges do this, high schools do this, club teams in other sports do this.

You cannot compare the fit of a tech suit to other sport uniforms.

[Anonymous]

Amazon, return. Mine like Speedo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure NCAP can legally enforce their TYR brand suit policy. How can you force a kid to wear a certain suit, especially if you aren’t providing them.

This is silly. The team can. It's a matter of if it wants to or not. The swimsuit is a uniform, just like any other sport. If the club contracts with a company to be the official outfitter of the club, the club risks penalties. Professional sports do this, colleges do this, high schools do this, club teams in other sports do this.

You cannot compare the fit of a tech suit to other sport uniforms.

Then lobby the team for a change or switch teams. Don't think the rules don't apply to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure NCAP can legally enforce their TYR brand suit policy. How can you force a kid to wear a certain suit, especially if you aren’t providing them.

This is silly. The team can. It's a matter of if it wants to or not. The swimsuit is a uniform, just like any other sport. If the club contracts with a company to be the official outfitter of the club, the club risks penalties. Professional sports do this, colleges do this, high schools do this, club teams in other sports do this.

You cannot compare the fit of a tech suit to other sport uniforms.

The amount of college athletes injured do to wearing incompatible footwear because a team is sponsored by Nike/Adidas/Reebok/Under Armour would prove you wildly incorrect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure NCAP can legally enforce their TYR brand suit policy. How can you force a kid to wear a certain suit, especially if you aren’t providing them.

This is silly. The team can. It's a matter of if it wants to or not. The swimsuit is a uniform, just like any other sport. If the club contracts with a company to be the official outfitter of the club, the club risks penalties. Professional sports do this, colleges do this, high schools do this, club teams in other sports do this.

You cannot compare the fit of a tech suit to other sport uniforms.

If there is a legitimate fit issue you can obtain a waiver.

[Anonymous]

Just a note to add that I ordered a suit directly from TYR and they were easy to work with on a return. I ordered a high waist by accident and they didn't even ask if it was tried on so assume they are lenient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just a note to add that I ordered a suit directly from TYR and they were easy to work with on a return. I ordered a high waist by accident and they didn't even ask if it was tried on so assume they are lenient.

With my DS, i've never had a problem ordering/returning tech suits to either TYR directly or SwimOutlet. This is after trying them on and deciding the suit(s) weren't the best fit; never wore it in the water of course.

[Anonymous]

The idea of a kid being forced to buy and wear a certain brand of suit is ridiculous. They are not professional athletes or college athletes on scholarship that are being outfitted by a college-sponsored brand. This is NCAP saying, "hey, we are making $$ with a TYR partnership so you have to purchase their gear." This isn't even a team uniform. So dumb and not okay.