Einstein MD School Report Card - ELA scores

Anonymous
Also, in HS, many kids just do the minimum and don't care about these tests. I wouldn't put much concern in them. We have skipped testing, and I don't even look at the scores, as it means nothing - for all I know, my kids just randomly check boxes if it's not a graduation requirement, as once you are in HS, you are on the track, so there is no benefit to the student. (I am a parent who pays attention to every grade, etc, but this stuff doesn't matter).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It looks like Einstein's 2025 ELA proficiency rate (34%) is way down. In 2019, 2022, 2023 and 2024 ELA proficiency hovered around 60%. It doesn't seem like other schools had this huge drop - does anyone know what happened?


Pretty sure the number on the report card page is based on scores of 12th graders that year, while the MCAP page is based on test takers that year (which should be just 10th graders, right?) If you look at the MAP page back in 2023 when last year's seniors were in 10th, only 30% were proficient. In the following years it rose to 54% and then last year's test takers were at 68%. So lots of improvement at Einstein, apparently.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The p numbers are performance levels. The 68.4 is students who scored 3 and 4s. The rest scored 2 with only a tiny number scoring a 1. That is good for a high esol school.


Great! Still not clear why one part of the website says 68.4% and another part says 34%.


Did you bother looking up how they calculate the report card, if you're so curious? It's all right here: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/HelpGuide/HelpGuideLinks/3/17/6/99/XXXX/2024 The report card proficiency is based only on the scores of last year's seniors.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The p numbers are performance levels. The 68.4 is students who scored 3 and 4s. The rest scored 2 with only a tiny number scoring a 1. That is good for a high esol school.


Great! Still not clear why one part of the website says 68.4% and another part says 34%.


Did you bother looking up how they calculate the report card, if you're so curious? It's all right here: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/HelpGuide/HelpGuideLinks/3/17/6/99/XXXX/2024 The report card proficiency is based only on the scores of last year's seniors.


Did you? These links don't address my question.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The p numbers are performance levels. The 68.4 is students who scored 3 and 4s. The rest scored 2 with only a tiny number scoring a 1. That is good for a high esol school.


Great! Still not clear why one part of the website says 68.4% and another part says 34%.


Did you bother looking up how they calculate the report card, if you're so curious? It's all right here: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/HelpGuide/HelpGuideLinks/3/17/6/99/XXXX/2024 The report card proficiency is based only on the scores of last year's seniors.


If they have younger kids, they are new to this, so explain it vs. giving them a hard time. I'm not even seeing the 34%.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The p numbers are performance levels. The 68.4 is students who scored 3 and 4s. The rest scored 2 with only a tiny number scoring a 1. That is good for a high esol school.


Great! Still not clear why one part of the website says 68.4% and another part says 34%.


Did you bother looking up how they calculate the report card, if you're so curious? It's all right here: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/HelpGuide/HelpGuideLinks/3/17/6/99/XXXX/2024 The report card proficiency is based only on the scores of last year's seniors.


Did you? These links don't address my question.


Ignore them. They comment negatively on every thread.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The p numbers are performance levels. The 68.4 is students who scored 3 and 4s. The rest scored 2 with only a tiny number scoring a 1. That is good for a high esol school.


Great! Still not clear why one part of the website says 68.4% and another part says 34%.


Did you bother looking up how they calculate the report card, if you're so curious? It's all right here: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/HelpGuide/HelpGuideLinks/3/17/6/99/XXXX/2024 The report card proficiency is based only on the scores of last year's seniors.


If they have younger kids, they are new to this, so explain it vs. giving them a hard time. I'm not even seeing the 34%.


Either click on this link: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0789/0

Or if you don't trust links:
1. Google "MD School Report Card"
2. Click on "Maryland Report Card Home"
3. Type "Einstein" into the box on the right and select "Albert Einstein High (0789)"
4. Scroll down to where it says "ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT"
5. Look at the percentage next to "Percent Proficient English Language Arts"

Anonymous
I think poster at 15:09 hit the nail on the head.

In the link of the descriptions it, says the report card includes all students who completed high school for that year. So would be diploma and certificate of completers.

So as the poster said, look at the 2023 results t o get the proficiency rates for the class of 2025. It won't be exact due students coming in and out and also taking the test after 2023. But Einstein's ELA 10 proficiency rate in 2023 was 29.8. And that's the majority of the students that make up the 2025 report card tab numbers for the ELA proficiency rates.
Anonymous
And if the difference is due to the Report Card reflecting graduating seniors and the MCAP data being for whoever took the test that year - why did last year's seniors at Einstein do so poorly compared with seniors at other schools and Einstein students in other classes?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think poster at 15:09 hit the nail on the head.

In the link of the descriptions it, says the report card includes all students who completed high school for that year. So would be diploma and certificate of completers.

So as the poster said, look at the 2023 results t o get the proficiency rates for the class of 2025. It won't be exact due students coming in and out and also taking the test after 2023. But Einstein's ELA 10 proficiency rate in 2023 was 29.8. And that's the majority of the students that make up the 2025 report card tab numbers for the ELA proficiency rates.


Thank you! Why do you think there is such a huge difference? And also, why is this so hard to figure out?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Also, in HS, many kids just do the minimum and don't care about these tests. I wouldn't put much concern in them. We have skipped testing, and I don't even look at the scores, as it means nothing - for all I know, my kids just randomly check boxes if it's not a graduation requirement, as once you are in HS, you are on the track, so there is no benefit to the student. (I am a parent who pays attention to every grade, etc, but this stuff doesn't matter).


I'm not worried about my kid's score as she is not in HS, nor am I particularly worried about the quality of education kids get at Einstein given that the 2025 proficiency rate seems aberrant. I do think it is fair to wonder how well schools are doing at teaching kids math and literacy as these skills are important for a lot of things in life.

And in general, the MD school report card website seems poorly designed and unclear - they could clearly label their tables and charts so you don't have to dig into other documents to find out what the numbers they are listing actually are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The p numbers are performance levels. The 68.4 is students who scored 3 and 4s. The rest scored 2 with only a tiny number scoring a 1. That is good for a high esol school.


Great! Still not clear why one part of the website says 68.4% and another part says 34%.


Did you bother looking up how they calculate the report card, if you're so curious? It's all right here: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/HelpGuide/HelpGuideLinks/3/17/6/99/XXXX/2024 The report card proficiency is based only on the scores of last year's seniors.


Did you? These links don't address my question.


How does it not answer your question? The at a glance makes it very clear that it's looking at 12th graders, and other documents go into more depth.

Now why the 2022-2023 10th graders at Einstein did so poorly on the ELA 10 MCAP I don't know. But whatever reason it was, it clearly is not a lingering issue because subsequent rates have been much higher.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The p numbers are performance levels. The 68.4 is students who scored 3 and 4s. The rest scored 2 with only a tiny number scoring a 1. That is good for a high esol school.


Great! Still not clear why one part of the website says 68.4% and another part says 34%.


Did you bother looking up how they calculate the report card, if you're so curious? It's all right here: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/HelpGuide/HelpGuideLinks/3/17/6/99/XXXX/2024 The report card proficiency is based only on the scores of last year's seniors.


Did you? These links don't address my question.


How does it not answer your question? The at a glance makes it very clear that it's looking at 12th graders, and other documents go into more depth.

Now why the 2022-2023 10th graders at Einstein did so poorly on the ELA 10 MCAP I don't know. But whatever reason it was, it clearly is not a lingering issue because subsequent rates have been much higher.


Nowhere on the website or this document does it explain why the numbers under the MCAP tab are different. It doesn't say under MCAP that these are the tests administered in 2025. We just have to infer that, I guess.

Also, I see huge discrepancies in math proficiency rates between the report card and the MCAP tab. It's very bizarre. I shouldn't need to spend hours looking at this to try to understand it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The p numbers are performance levels. The 68.4 is students who scored 3 and 4s. The rest scored 2 with only a tiny number scoring a 1. That is good for a high esol school.


Great! Still not clear why one part of the website says 68.4% and another part says 34%.


Did you bother looking up how they calculate the report card, if you're so curious? It's all right here: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/HelpGuide/HelpGuideLinks/3/17/6/99/XXXX/2024 The report card proficiency is based only on the scores of last year's seniors.


Did you? These links don't address my question.


How does it not answer your question? The at a glance makes it very clear that it's looking at 12th graders, and other documents go into more depth.

Now why the 2022-2023 10th graders at Einstein did so poorly on the ELA 10 MCAP I don't know. But whatever reason it was, it clearly is not a lingering issue because subsequent rates have been much higher.


Nowhere on the website or this document does it explain why the numbers under the MCAP tab are different. It doesn't say under MCAP that these are the tests administered in 2025. We just have to infer that, I guess.

Also, I see huge discrepancies in math proficiency rates between the report card and the MCAP tab. It's very bizarre. I shouldn't need to spend hours looking at this to try to understand it.


I mean, on the MCAP page it literally says "English Language Arts Data (2025)"?

Look, I totally agree the interface is not well designed and people shouldn't have to dig to understand it. But it takes like 2 extra minutes to find and reas the documentation to find the answers to your questions, but instead you spent far more time posting here asking other people to look it up for you rather than do it yourself. It's just a bit annoying.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The p numbers are performance levels. The 68.4 is students who scored 3 and 4s. The rest scored 2 with only a tiny number scoring a 1. That is good for a high esol school.


Great! Still not clear why one part of the website says 68.4% and another part says 34%.


Did you bother looking up how they calculate the report card, if you're so curious? It's all right here: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/HelpGuide/HelpGuideLinks/3/17/6/99/XXXX/2024 The report card proficiency is based only on the scores of last year's seniors.


If they have younger kids, they are new to this, so explain it vs. giving them a hard time. I'm not even seeing the 34%.


Either click on this link: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0789/0

Or if you don't trust links:
1. Google "MD School Report Card"
2. Click on "Maryland Report Card Home"
3. Type "Einstein" into the box on the right and select "Albert Einstein High (0789)"
4. Scroll down to where it says "ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT"
5. Look at the percentage next to "Percent Proficient English Language Arts"



Link is valid. That's a good question, but there are a lot of kids whose English is not their first language. I wouldn't choose a school on those numbers alone. Talk to families. And, remember the culture changes every few years depending on the admin, teachers, parents, and students, so if there is a change in leadership, the school culture can change, good or bad.

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