Scott Galloway how to save teenage boys.

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Great segment on Today Show.

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Anonymous wrote:Really interesting takes on boys and technology. I think he’s right about a lot but off on some things but I think his ideas are worth discussing. Are we failing boy? Have we put girls ahead of boys or have women just put their heads down and figured it out?

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“ …his stats tell a worrying story. In 1950, 50 per cent of men under 30 had children; now it’s 21 per cent (and 60 per cent of young men aged 18-24 still live with their parents). The downstream effects are startling: 1 in 3 men under 30 hasn’t had sex in the past year; 45 per cent of men aged 18-25 have never approached a woman in person (as opposed to online) to ask them on a date.

“No cohort has fallen further, faster than young men,” he asserts. “You ask me about the [Tommy Robinson] march in London? History shows us fascism breeds among sad, lonely, badly educated males who are most susceptible to conspiracy theories. Trump got elected because we have a young man problem. And you want to know why his vote went up among women over 45? I believe they are concerned mothers.”

“It begins with education. Boys’ slower brain development (the male prefrontal cortex matures later than in girls) means they quickly fall behind girls at school. What’s more, higher education is now prohibitively expensive, while manual jobs have disappeared due to globalisation and AI. Even for those working, inflation has devalued wages and housing is increasingly unaffordable.

The social contract is broken,” he says. “The promise that working hard and following the rules means your life will be better than for previous generations is gone. In that landscape of despair, the temptations offered by godlike technology, porn, gambling and conspiracy theories can be irresistible.”

Full article.

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/parenting/article/scott-galloway-how-save-teenage-boys-gckntn7t9

Sorry, but this is BS.

Yea, technology changed. Those changes have also made it easier than ever to get ahead. Our grandparents would have killed for the opportunities we have now.

I became a single mom in 2019 with zero job skills. The career I had gone to college for was gone, and I had been a SAHM for so long my resume was worthless. I figured out what jobs had growth potential, got an entry-level position making minimum wage, and over 5 years worked my way up to making 6 figures. All while raising kids. Every free moment I had was spent on free education (podcasts + YouTube), and any extra money I made went to career development.

It was hard. Was it as hard as our grandmothers and great-grandmothers had it? Absolutely not. There were zero career opportunities for women then, and being a single mom meant poverty for life.

I just don't have much empathy for young men who want to complain life is hard when they've been handed literally every advantage and have the entire Internet, and all the free education that comes along with it, in their pockets. Mr. Beast was making several times more money than his parents by the time he was a teenager. Is every boy going to be Mr Beast? No. But if you work hard and take the time to learn the system, you can succeed.

Isn't it interesting that young white men are becoming increasingly more conservative, the party who believes everyone can succeed if they just work hard? Now that they have to work as hard as everyone else has had to do for decades they're mad about it.

I think this is a complex issue. I understand why white men feel left behind when our culture has historically put them above everyone else. There's a huge culture shift. It's no longer enough to simply be a white man. They need to step up and work as hard as everyone else. I keep seeing the reports of young men not being able to find a partner and the loneliness epidemic. Women don't have to settle for mediocre anymore. They want a partner, not a man child. They can make their own money and don't need to get married in order to support themselves. There's a reason conservatives are pushing so hard against abortion, birth control, paid maternity leave, etc. They need to make women dependent on men otherwise their chances of marriage will continue to decrease (until men learn they need to step it up).

Big yes to the bolded! And its so funny to me, that liberal feminist young men are NOT suffering this. Is it chicken or egg? Are young men being drawn to conservatism because they can't get any female attention, or are women not even bothering to look their way because of their toxic conservative views? Maybe both.

I think both can be true. And yes, I agree that it's funny how liberal young men aren't having these issues. It's almost as if women don't want to be with men who think women should be treated like second class citizens....what a surprise. /s

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“The promise that working hard and following the rules means your life will be better than for previous generations is gone.

It's gone for everyone, but it's only boys (or overwhelmingly boys) who seem unable to function, who get addicted to porn and racist YouTubers and PUA scamming, who are just so sad they have to get violent.

This whole argument, including the bit about slower brain development, is basically an argument to put boys under conservatorship for their own and everyone else's protection. I don't think that's what the proponents want, but it's the logical conclusion of their argument that boys are just too slow and sad to function in the world ...
even though all the richest and most powerful people in the world are men, and we are one generation out from women being a minority in college and not being allowed to open bank accounts. Meaning, the very economic conditions these guys struggle with were created and perpetuated by men.

Tl:dr - pull the other leg

+1 I think a lot of this is coming from young men who are raised by the internet and are fed nostalgia that isn’t possible anymore. Being dad who works with a wife that cooks and cleans and dotes on babies all day. Most young men simply aren’t going to get that experience.

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Average to poor white men have always done pretty well in life. Now women would rather be alone and companies will hire someone else.

In the past, there was no other options for partners for white women or for companies to hire into white collar roles. Why? Because the civil rights of women and minorities were stripped. Now white men have learned being average to poor at things (emotionally, academically) will not get them to the same place. Some are taking this and teaching their sons empathy and how to be a good partner AND how to secure a good job. Others lean into MAGA because it makes small, sad men feel powerful again.

Any issues white men/boys are having can also be blamed on the ways patriarchy fails all of us.

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Anonymous wrote:Except liberal white women are the least happy cohort, so I guess it isn’t working out well for them either….

Can you cite some actual studies? Conservatives love to use this as a talking point, but I've never seen any actual evidence of this. I thought most studies showed that married women with kids were one of the unhappiest groups.

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One trend I've observed with divorced families is that their daughters are generally fine but the sons are a mess.

Boys are emotionally weaker than girls. Some of the current discourse responds with, who cares, girls have been behind for all humanity so this is only fair. I can see where they are coming from, but many girls want to grow up and get married and have families. You need healthy young men for that.

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Anonymous wrote:One trend I've observed with divorced families is that their daughters are generally fine but the sons are a mess.

Boys are emotionally weaker than girls. Some of the current discourse responds with, who cares, girls have been behind for all humanity so this is only fair. I can see where they are coming from, but many girls want to grow up and get married and have families. You need healthy young men for that.

In what way? My three boys are great.

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Do we really want men under 30 to be having children? Their brains aren’t fully developed until 25, and then they need a few years to settle in.

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The rich old white men need to step up their mentorship game, as opposed to expect young women having no standards.

My generation had no standard and we were taken advantage of, but we vented online, guess who was reading those online messages?

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“The promise that working hard and following the rules means your life will be better than for previous generations is gone.

It's gone for everyone, but it's only boys (or overwhelmingly boys) who seem unable to function, who get addicted to porn and racist YouTubers and PUA scamming, who are just so sad they have to get violent.

This whole argument, including the bit about slower brain development, is basically an argument to put boys under conservatorship for their own and everyone else's protection. I don't think that's what the proponents want, but it's the logical conclusion of their argument that boys are just too slow and sad to function in the world ...
even though all the richest and most powerful people in the world are men, and we are one generation out from women being a minority in college and not being allowed to open bank accounts. Meaning, the very economic conditions these guys struggle with were created and perpetuated by men.

Tl:dr - pull the other leg

+1 I think a lot of this is coming from young men who are raised by the internet and are fed nostalgia that isn’t possible anymore. Being dad who works with a wife that cooks and cleans and dotes on babies all day. Most young men simply aren’t going to get that experience.

But they get half the bills paid, why are they so focused on the negatives?

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Anonymous wrote:Average to poor white men have always done pretty well in life. Now women would rather be alone and companies will hire someone else.

In the past, there was no other options for partners for white women or for companies to hire into white collar roles. Why? Because the civil rights of women and minorities were stripped. Now white men have learned being average to poor at things (emotionally, academically) will not get them to the same place. Some are taking this and teaching their sons empathy and how to be a good partner AND how to secure a good job. Others lean into MAGA because it makes small, sad men feel powerful again.

Any issues white men/boys are having can also be blamed on the ways patriarchy fails all of us.

+1 every decent paying job in this country was essentially reserved for them prior to desegregation and it took decades afterwards for other groups to make any serious headway career wise. It’s just increased competition. I also don’t see immigrants and their children complaining about this problem as much.

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Anonymous wrote:Except liberal white women are the least happy cohort, so I guess it isn’t working out well for them either….

Can you cite some actual studies? Conservatives love to use this as a talking point, but I've never seen any actual evidence of this. I thought most studies showed that married women with kids were one of the unhappiest groups.

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2023/03/how-to-understand-the-well-being-gap-between-liberals-and-conservatives/

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Anonymous wrote:The rich old white men need to step up their mentorship game, as opposed to expect young women having no standards.

My generation had no standard and we were taken advantage of, but we vented online, guess who was reading those online messages?

And women need to stop backstabbing. Old white men have been my best mentors as a female. Women who have made it are vicious for some reason….

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This is just Darwinism and natural selection at work. One hundred years ago a woman needed a husband to have any sort of freedom. Now women can do it on their own and don't need men. Now the men who bring nothing to the table aren't being picked as they would have been in the past.

Women don't need relationships to be happy and men do. Women are no longer responsible for men's happiness and they haven't figured out how to fix it themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:The rich old white men need to step up their mentorship game, as opposed to expect young women having no standards.

My generation had no standard and we were taken advantage of, but we vented online, guess who was reading those online messages?

And women need to stop backstabbing. Old white men have been my best mentors as a female. Women who have made it are vicious for some reason….

Pretending to be a woman online lol. Men aren't lonely enough.