Melatonin brand/dose?

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Anonymous wrote:Melatonin causes increased heart failure. Look into magnesium instead.

Yes we stopped. The new studies that just came out this week are highly concerning. Much more than the others. A 90% increase in heart failure is not worth it. On top my kid already takes a stimulant which is known for heart issues.

Which studies came out? There is an unpublished, not peer reviewed study that is getting a lot of media coverage and the lead author basically admits it is inconclusive and his main motivation for doing the study is to promote more research on this. The unpublished study doesn't actually show anything.

Not the pp, but I have always read increasing melatonin can increase heart issues. Over 5 years ago. So if studies are coming out now for more studies to be done, why keep giving it and wait to see?

For me, it gave me vivid dreams and heart palpitations. I’m definitely not going to offer it to my child when there are so many other supplements that are much safer.

I would love for you to link those studies because I haven't found any of them. I did find this study which shows numerous benefits and no serious side effects (zero cardiac events) of melatonin use for 52 weeks in kids with ASD.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30132686/

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Anonymous wrote:Melatonin causes increased heart failure. Look into magnesium instead.

Yes we stopped. The new studies that just came out this week are highly concerning. Much more than the others. A 90% increase in heart failure is not worth it. On top my kid already takes a stimulant which is known for heart issues.

Which studies came out? There is an unpublished, not peer reviewed study that is getting a lot of media coverage and the lead author basically admits it is inconclusive and his main motivation for doing the study is to promote more research on this. The unpublished study doesn't actually show anything.

Not the pp, but I have always read increasing melatonin can increase heart issues. Over 5 years ago. So if studies are coming out now for more studies to be done, why keep giving it and wait to see?

For me, it gave me vivid dreams and heart palpitations. I’m definitely not going to offer it to my child when there are so many other supplements that are much safer.

I would love for you to link those studies because I haven't found any of them. I did find this study which shows numerous benefits and no serious side effects (zero cardiac events) of melatonin use for 52 weeks in kids with ASD.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30132686/

Oh and unlike the "study" being reported in the news, the above linked study on long term use of melatonin in kids with ASD is both published and peer-reviewed.

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Anonymous wrote:11 yo. Drs suggested 5-6 mg 45 mins before bed. We are using vitafusion sleep sugar free gummies (2 gummies) and works like a charm

Wow this is a big dose. Our doctor recommended .5 mg.

A reminder that DCUM is not an appropriate place to get medical advice. 0.5 mg is great if it works for your child. It is half the dose recommended for young children. For a small 6 year old our doctor said the max is 3 mg.

NP. I think it’s pretty widely accepted that you should use the lowest dose that works? My kid responds to less than 0.5 (we split the gummy) so that’s what we do. 5-6 mg is a lot, no criticism if that’s what your child needs and a doctor signed off on it but it’s definitely high for a child.

So why are you posting here if not to bash parents for following medical advice because you feel like you can give better medical advice? Posters like you are the absolute worst. Smh

My point is that 5-6 mg is a very high, out of the ordinary, sort of a last resort dose for children. Your family may have a particular situation that merited it but you didn’t explain that, so out of context it sounds like you think that’s a reasonable, normal dose, which it is not for long term use. Obviously everyone should talk to their doctors but melatonin is available OTC and people are clearly looking for advice so perhaps we can all be helpful in our responses rather than attacking each other?

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Try magnesium over melatonin

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Anonymous wrote:11 yo. Drs suggested 5-6 mg 45 mins before bed. We are using vitafusion sleep sugar free gummies (2 gummies) and works like a charm

Wow this is a big dose. Our doctor recommended .5 mg.

A reminder that DCUM is not an appropriate place to get medical advice. 0.5 mg is great if it works for your child. It is half the dose recommended for young children. For a small 6 year old our doctor said the max is 3 mg.

NP. I think it’s pretty widely accepted that you should use the lowest dose that works? My kid responds to less than 0.5 (we split the gummy) so that’s what we do. 5-6 mg is a lot, no criticism if that’s what your child needs and a doctor signed off on it but it’s definitely high for a child.

So why are you posting here if not to bash parents for following medical advice because you feel like you can give better medical advice? Posters like you are the absolute worst. Smh

My point is that 5-6 mg is a very high, out of the ordinary, sort of a last resort dose for children. Your family may have a particular situation that merited it but you didn’t explain that, so out of context it sounds like you think that’s a reasonable, normal dose, which it is not for long term use. Obviously everyone should talk to their doctors but melatonin is available OTC and people are clearly looking for advice so perhaps we can all be helpful in our responses rather than attacking each other?

You do realize you are on the special needs board right? Most people here do have very particular situations with our kids. PP and I shared what our doctors recommended. Melatonin actually does have a decent amount of research in neurodiverse kids, especially with ASD which is why so many of our doctors have recommended it for our kids. If you are lost, go to General Parenting where you will might feel more comfortable.

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Anonymous wrote:11 yo. Drs suggested 5-6 mg 45 mins before bed. We are using vitafusion sleep sugar free gummies (2 gummies) and works like a charm

Wow this is a big dose. Our doctor recommended .5 mg.

A reminder that DCUM is not an appropriate place to get medical advice. 0.5 mg is great if it works for your child. It is half the dose recommended for young children. For a small 6 year old our doctor said the max is 3 mg.

NP. I think it’s pretty widely accepted that you should use the lowest dose that works? My kid responds to less than 0.5 (we split the gummy) so that’s what we do. 5-6 mg is a lot, no criticism if that’s what your child needs and a doctor signed off on it but it’s definitely high for a child.

So why are you posting here if not to bash parents for following medical advice because you feel like you can give better medical advice? Posters like you are the absolute worst. Smh

My point is that 5-6 mg is a very high, out of the ordinary, sort of a last resort dose for children. Your family may have a particular situation that merited it but you didn’t explain that, so out of context it sounds like you think that’s a reasonable, normal dose, which it is not for long term use. Obviously everyone should talk to their doctors but melatonin is available OTC and people are clearly looking for advice so perhaps we can all be helpful in our responses rather than attacking each other?

You do realize you are on the special needs board right? Most people here do have very particular situations with our kids. PP and I shared what our doctors recommended. Melatonin actually does have a decent amount of research in neurodiverse kids, especially with ASD which is why so many of our doctors have recommended it for our kids. If you are lost, go to General Parenting where you will might feel more comfortable.

I also have a SN child, which is why I frequent this board. My child takes melatonin regularly, and I have discussed it with several doctors, who have all unanimously recommended using the lowest dosage that works for my child. We experimented and found that a relatively low dose worked well. Clearly you received different medical guidance, hard to say why without more information.

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Anonymous wrote:11 yo. Drs suggested 5-6 mg 45 mins before bed. We are using vitafusion sleep sugar free gummies (2 gummies) and works like a charm

Wow this is a big dose. Our doctor recommended .5 mg.

A reminder that DCUM is not an appropriate place to get medical advice. 0.5 mg is great if it works for your child. It is half the dose recommended for young children. For a small 6 year old our doctor said the max is 3 mg.

NP. I think it’s pretty widely accepted that you should use the lowest dose that works? My kid responds to less than 0.5 (we split the gummy) so that’s what we do. 5-6 mg is a lot, no criticism if that’s what your child needs and a doctor signed off on it but it’s definitely high for a child.

So why are you posting here if not to bash parents for following medical advice because you feel like you can give better medical advice? Posters like you are the absolute worst. Smh

My point is that 5-6 mg is a very high, out of the ordinary, sort of a last resort dose for children. Your family may have a particular situation that merited it but you didn’t explain that, so out of context it sounds like you think that’s a reasonable, normal dose, which it is not for long term use. Obviously everyone should talk to their doctors but melatonin is available OTC and people are clearly looking for advice so perhaps we can all be helpful in our responses rather than attacking each other?

You do realize you are on the special needs board right? Most people here do have very particular situations with our kids. PP and I shared what our doctors recommended. Melatonin actually does have a decent amount of research in neurodiverse kids, especially with ASD which is why so many of our doctors have recommended it for our kids. If you are lost, go to General Parenting where you will might feel more comfortable.

I also have a SN child, which is why I frequent this board. My child takes melatonin regularly, and I have discussed it with several doctors, who have all unanimously recommended using the lowest dosage that works for my child. We experimented and found that a relatively low dose worked well. Clearly you received different medical guidance, hard to say why without more information.

Great so we are all following our doctors' guidance, but you are the only narcissist who thinks only the guidance you got is valid and applies to everyone else's kids. Smh