Interview of MCPS program analysis leaders

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Anonymous wrote:Did I hear right that they said the DCC only costs $1 million? If so, why do they have to take it away?

For equity, don't you see! The DCC is simply unfair to all the wealthy schools where students have to stay at the home school to take engineering instead of having the privilege of traveling to a different school to take engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoa. Jeannie Franklin admitted that schools with existing programs won't get any new staff or resources.

Instead, the bulk of new resources will go to schools getting magnets for the first time, which means Wooton, Churchill, WJ, and BCC.

BCC is not getting a magnet for the first time. Or rather, the IB program that already exists is just going to become the "magnet".

It will need more teachers

I thought none of the programs are getting new teachers, just perhaps some extra training.

If they don't change BCC boundaries but put in a new criteria based program that adds 200 students from other schools, their staff allocation will increase and other schools' staff allocations decrease.

it's really not a new program since it already exists. I don't know how many kids are in it, but I imagine that they'd just restrict the number of kids from BCC to have kids from other schools. It seems like the idea overall (with the no new teachers thing) is to just utilize resources that already exist at the locations.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoa. Jeannie Franklin admitted that schools with existing programs won't get any new staff or resources.

Instead, the bulk of new resources will go to schools getting magnets for the first time, which means Wooton, Churchill, WJ, and BCC.

BCC is not getting a magnet for the first time. Or rather, the IB program that already exists is just going to become the "magnet".

It will need more teachers

I thought none of the programs are getting new teachers, just perhaps some extra training.

If they don't change BCC boundaries but put in a new criteria based program that adds 200 students from other schools, their staff allocation will increase and other schools' staff allocations decrease.

it's really not a new program since it already exists. I don't know how many kids are in it, but I imagine that they'd just restrict the number of kids from BCC to have kids from other schools. It seems like the idea overall (with the no new teachers thing) is to just utilize resources that already exist at the locations.

I disagree. I don't think they are admitting it but they must know certain schools will attract more students than others. When enrollment increases they get more staff. That's how staff allocations work.

Right now very few Whitman or BCC students leave to go to other programs, even ones that are not that bad of a commute. They have really diverse course options at those schools. In Region 1, it will be Einstein and Northwood students traveling to the other schools, and those schools will lose more enrollment which will trigger smaller staff allocations.

[Anonymous]

Btw they have made it clear they want to use the program model to balance enrollment. That is why it is inextricably connected to the boundary study. Guess which schools then want kids to travel to?

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Anonymous wrote:Whoa. Jeannie Franklin admitted that schools with existing programs won't get any new staff or resources.

Instead, the bulk of new resources will go to schools getting magnets for the first time, which means Wooton, Churchill, WJ, and BCC.

BCC is not getting a magnet for the first time. Or rather, the IB program that already exists is just going to become the "magnet".

It will need more teachers

I thought none of the programs are getting new teachers, just perhaps some extra training.

If they don't change BCC boundaries but put in a new criteria based program that adds 200 students from other schools, their staff allocation will increase and other schools' staff allocations decrease.

it's really not a new program since it already exists. I don't know how many kids are in it, but I imagine that they'd just restrict the number of kids from BCC to have kids from other schools. It seems like the idea overall (with the no new teachers thing) is to just utilize resources that already exist at the locations.

I disagree. I don't think they are admitting it but they must know certain schools will attract more students than others. When enrollment increases they get more staff. That's how staff allocations work.

Right now very few Whitman or BCC students leave to go to other programs, even ones that are not that bad of a commute. They have really diverse course options at those schools. In Region 1, it will be Einstein and Northwood students traveling to the other schools, and those schools will lose more enrollment which will trigger smaller staff allocations.

Unless, of course, the Einstein/Northwood/Blair kids decide the rides are too long, or that the culture is too icky at BCC/Whitman.

[Anonymous]

Why aren't other regions having the same issues as Region 1?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whoa. Jeannie Franklin admitted that schools with existing programs won't get any new staff or resources.

Instead, the bulk of new resources will go to schools getting magnets for the first time, which means Wooton, Churchill, WJ, and BCC.

BCC is not getting a magnet for the first time. Or rather, the IB program that already exists is just going to become the "magnet".

It will need more teachers

I thought none of the programs are getting new teachers, just perhaps some extra training.

If they don't change BCC boundaries but put in a new criteria based program that adds 200 students from other schools, their staff allocation will increase and other schools' staff allocations decrease.

They assume that the numbers of students entering and leaving schools for magnets will be roughly equal.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoa. Jeannie Franklin admitted that schools with existing programs won't get any new staff or resources.

Instead, the bulk of new resources will go to schools getting magnets for the first time, which means Wooton, Churchill, WJ, and BCC.

BCC is not getting a magnet for the first time. Or rather, the IB program that already exists is just going to become the "magnet".

It will need more teachers

I thought none of the programs are getting new teachers, just perhaps some extra training.

If they don't change BCC boundaries but put in a new criteria based program that adds 200 students from other schools, their staff allocation will increase and other schools' staff allocations decrease.

it's really not a new program since it already exists. I don't know how many kids are in it, but I imagine that they'd just restrict the number of kids from BCC to have kids from other schools. It seems like the idea overall (with the no new teachers thing) is to just utilize resources that already exist at the locations.

I disagree. I don't think they are admitting it but they must know certain schools will attract more students than others. When enrollment increases they get more staff. That's how staff allocations work.

Right now very few Whitman or BCC students leave to go to other programs, even ones that are not that bad of a commute. They have really diverse course options at those schools. In Region 1, it will be Einstein and Northwood students traveling to the other schools, and those schools will lose more enrollment which will trigger smaller staff allocations.

Unless, of course, the Einstein/Northwood/Blair kids decide the rides are too long, or that the culture is too icky at BCC/Whitman.

I'm sure some will decide that but as I am sure you know these communities are not monoliths

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whoa. Jeannie Franklin admitted that schools with existing programs won't get any new staff or resources.

Instead, the bulk of new resources will go to schools getting magnets for the first time, which means Wooton, Churchill, WJ, and BCC.

BCC is not getting a magnet for the first time. Or rather, the IB program that already exists is just going to become the "magnet".

It will need more teachers

I thought none of the programs are getting new teachers, just perhaps some extra training.

If they don't change BCC boundaries but put in a new criteria based program that adds 200 students from other schools, their staff allocation will increase and other schools' staff allocations decrease.

They assume that the numbers of students entering and leaving schools for magnets will be roughly equal.

That is a preposterous assumption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why aren't other regions having the same issues as Region 1?

Pro tip - don't assume things about communities you haven't talked to

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren't other regions having the same issues as Region 1?

Pro tip - don't assume things about communities you haven't talked to

yeah that's why I'm asking, boss

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Anonymous wrote:Whoa. Jeannie Franklin admitted that schools with existing programs won't get any new staff or resources.

Instead, the bulk of new resources will go to schools getting magnets for the first time, which means Wooton, Churchill, WJ, and BCC.

BCC is not getting a magnet for the first time. Or rather, the IB program that already exists is just going to become the "magnet".

It will need more teachers

I thought none of the programs are getting new teachers, just perhaps some extra training.

If they don't change BCC boundaries but put in a new criteria based program that adds 200 students from other schools, their staff allocation will increase and other schools' staff allocations decrease.

They assume that the numbers of students entering and leaving schools for magnets will be roughly equal.

That is a preposterous assumption.

dp.. but that is what they are going on. Agree, it's a bad assumption.

Some programs will be more popular than others -- STEM, IB.. others not so much. It will be lop sided and impact capacity.

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren't other regions having the same issues as Region 1?

Pro tip - don't assume things about communities you haven't talked to

yeah that's why I'm asking, boss

No it isn't. You don't know who is here and who is not here.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoa. Jeannie Franklin admitted that schools with existing programs won't get any new staff or resources.

Instead, the bulk of new resources will go to schools getting magnets for the first time, which means Wooton, Churchill, WJ, and BCC.

BCC is not getting a magnet for the first time. Or rather, the IB program that already exists is just going to become the "magnet".

It will need more teachers

I thought none of the programs are getting new teachers, just perhaps some extra training.

If they don't change BCC boundaries but put in a new criteria based program that adds 200 students from other schools, their staff allocation will increase and other schools' staff allocations decrease.

They assume that the numbers of students entering and leaving schools for magnets will be roughly equal.

That is a preposterous assumption.

dp.. but that is what they are going on. Agree, it's a bad assumption.

Some programs will be more popular than others -- STEM, IB.. others not so much. It will be lop sided and impact capacity.

Have they really said this? If this were true then it would be ridiculous for them to say the program model is "inextricably linked" with the boundary studies.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoa. Jeannie Franklin admitted that schools with existing programs won't get any new staff or resources.

Instead, the bulk of new resources will go to schools getting magnets for the first time, which means Wooton, Churchill, WJ, and BCC.

BCC is not getting a magnet for the first time. Or rather, the IB program that already exists is just going to become the "magnet".

It will need more teachers

I thought none of the programs are getting new teachers, just perhaps some extra training.

If they don't change BCC boundaries but put in a new criteria based program that adds 200 students from other schools, their staff allocation will increase and other schools' staff allocations decrease.

They assume that the numbers of students entering and leaving schools for magnets will be roughly equal.

That is a preposterous assumption.

at the very least, there's space at Whitman.