Incident at Odessa Shannon MS

Anonymous
My God, this poor child. One’s life really can change drastically in an instant. I’m praying for a total recovery. I imagine this incident was traumatic for everyone present.

Lenny’s mom, if you read this, big hugs to you and the whole family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I feel terrible for the PE teacher who will have to live with this event for the rest of their life, even if they were completely powerless to stop or prevent it.


It happened under their watch.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The school needs to say whether this was done by accident or on purpose, what the object was and if on purpose what is the consequence.


Given that the school did not specify, it can be inferred it was done on purpose. If it had been an accident, Chris Cram would definitely have put that in there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel terrible for the PE teacher who will have to live with this event for the rest of their life, even if they were completely powerless to stop or prevent it.


It happened under their watch.


Exactly. That's why they will have to live with it. However, as someone with experience in Middle School PE, it's sad to admit that you can do everything right and things can still happen because you often have class sizes of 35-40 kids.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel terrible for the PE teacher who will have to live with this event for the rest of their life, even if they were completely powerless to stop or prevent it.


It happened under their watch.


It isn't the PE teacher's fault is is because the system is set up now so there are very few to no consequences for students.

The rate of juvenile incarceration in this country has dropped 70%. A total of 2,342 juveniles were held in residential placement facilities in Maryland on a single day in 2000. Of these, 1,769 were held in public facilities and 573 in private facilities. The number last year of incarcerated youth was 418.

If kids were actually getting intensive service and placed in day treatment programs that would be great but they aren't. So do you think that juvenile crime dropped substantially and now there are just almost 2,000 fewer youth offenders? Or is it that youth offenders are no longer incarcerated and instead are immediately released after being arrested and attend neighborhood middle and high schools around the state.

So some really troubled kids are in public schools (the majority of continuation schools have closed) and have realized even if they do something to get arrested they still get released immediately. Then they realized it is actually hard to get suspended and expelled in public schools and instead the focus is on restorative justice.

It is way too risky for any teacher to touch a student now. The PE teacher didn't pick the students in their class. They didn't choose how many students or if any aides would be present. The teacher is not allowed to physically prevent a student from attacking another student. It used to be teachers would intervene in fights and separate students. The vast majority of teachers are no longer willing to do that because you end being the one who gets in trouble, not the student who instigated the fight.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel terrible for the PE teacher who will have to live with this event for the rest of their life, even if they were completely powerless to stop or prevent it.


It happened under their watch.


Is the teacher Superman, with the ability to sense flying object before they hit their target?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel terrible for the PE teacher who will have to live with this event for the rest of their life, even if they were completely powerless to stop or prevent it.


It happened under their watch.


Exactly. That's why they will have to live with it. However, as someone with experience in Middle School PE, it's sad to admit that you can do everything right and things can still happen because you often have class sizes of 35-40 kids.



What is your experience in ms pe?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel terrible for the PE teacher who will have to live with this event for the rest of their life, even if they were completely powerless to stop or prevent it.


It happened under their watch.


Exactly. That's why they will have to live with it. However, as someone with experience in Middle School PE, it's sad to admit that you can do everything right and things can still happen because you often have class sizes of 35-40 kids.



What is your experience in ms pe?


I have taught it
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel terrible for the PE teacher who will have to live with this event for the rest of their life, even if they were completely powerless to stop or prevent it.


It happened under their watch.


Would you keep that same energy if it was a school shooting? Would it be less traumatic for the teacher? Would you blame the teacher for it happening “under their watch?”
Anonymous
We were told weapon was metal pipe but that doesn’t make sense?!
Anonymous
That’s absolutely gut wrenching. Seeing that picture snd reading the school’s letter is pretty jarring. I feel like “a very serious incident” is the same language they use for a regular fight or vandalism.

An intubated child feels many orders of magnitude different and the tone of the letter did not reflect that (and in fact seemed weirdly self congratulatory abt “enacting their HOLD procedures” and “allowing EMTs to do their work.” Way to go allowing first responders to reach a child with an open skull injury, i guess.
Anonymous
This is disturbing. The fact that teachers are opening their blabbermouths about things that are not suppose to be talked about. Teachers will get fired for sure.
Anonymous
school’s principal, Dr. Natasha H. Booms
Anonymous
Why are these lunatics pretending they don't know what the "metal object" is?

Staple?

Aluminum baseball bat?

Bar magnet?

Full soda can?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:She posted on a local mom's page about this and people are trying to help her - with finding a lawyer and filing paperwork. So devastating.


A couple of days ago I saw a post on Nextdoor and I wasn’t sure if it was related to this event here. I hope your mom group is able to help her navigate this.
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