SEC - Reorg

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I get why they want to reorg OIT. But the rest seems to be more moving people around to get the right ratios of managers to staff. But, whatever. They don’t seem to be able to get anything done. Not a single rule proposal. Everything is policy statements or extending compliance dates. So far they appear completely incapable of managing the agency.

And now that DOGE is gone, the Chairman is the target of staff’s ire. Maybe he doesn’t understand that running around saying staff is overpaid, benefits are too generous and they will never get telework back while he’s there isn’t going to inspire staff to work overtime to get anything done. Everyone will do their jobs for 8 hours per day. But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.

Sorry - when did the chairman say that his staff is overpaid with benefits too generous and they’ll never get telework back? Genuinely asking because I didn’t hear this and if it’s the case need to at least try to leave.

Is it really surprising? At the union meeting I went to they relayed the same thing except the telework part, but I'm sure those are his true feelings. And anyone thinking we will get TW back is living in cuckoo land. If this bothers you I suggest you indeed try to leave, because this is what's in store, and thinking otherwise is delusional at this point.

Nothing is forever. People are very short sighted in general. Someone once compared it to women entering the workforce and then trying to push them out post ww2. Eventually everyone accepted that women wanted high paying jobs too. With technology it doesn’t make sense that we must commute hours to use Teams from a different place. This administration won’t always be in power and something unexpected could happen. The people currently in power will be judged including the heads of agencies intent on destroying it and its staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well it looks like they might have the same guy chairing both SEC and CFTC so a merger seems inevitable.

They may want to do that but it is prohibited by statute. That would give people challenging SEC or CFTC decisions in court a very effective tool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well it looks like they might have the same guy chairing both SEC and CFTC so a merger seems inevitable.

They may want to do that but it is prohibited by statute. That would give people challenging SEC or CFTC decisions in court a very effective tool.

When have they followed statutes?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get why they want to reorg OIT. But the rest seems to be more moving people around to get the right ratios of managers to staff. But, whatever. They don’t seem to be able to get anything done. Not a single rule proposal. Everything is policy statements or extending compliance dates. So far they appear completely incapable of managing the agency.

And now that DOGE is gone, the Chairman is the target of staff’s ire. Maybe he doesn’t understand that running around saying staff is overpaid, benefits are too generous and they will never get telework back while he’s there isn’t going to inspire staff to work overtime to get anything done. Everyone will do their jobs for 8 hours per day. But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.

Sorry - when did the chairman say that his staff is overpaid with benefits too generous and they’ll never get telework back? Genuinely asking because I didn’t hear this and if it’s the case need to at least try to leave.

Is it really surprising? At the union meeting I went to they relayed the same thing except the telework part, but I'm sure those are his true feelings. And anyone thinking we will get TW back is living in cuckoo land. If this bothers you I suggest you indeed try to leave, because this is what's in store, and thinking otherwise is delusional at this point.

Nothing is forever. People are very short sighted in general. Someone once compared it to women entering the workforce and then trying to push them out post ww2. Eventually everyone accepted that women wanted high paying jobs too. With technology it doesn’t make sense that we must commute hours to use Teams from a different place. This administration won’t always be in power and something unexpected could happen. The people currently in power will be judged including the heads of agencies intent on destroying it and its staff.

The other party wanted us all back in the office as well. The only thing which saved us was collective bargaining, which the courts have basically said can be ignored. So moving forward we are screwed. If Covid didn't change anything long term re. TW then nothing will.

People are way too optimistic in general and think things are just going to go back to "normal" in 3 years. No, the damage this admin and scotus is doing is going to take decades of normalcy and an update of the Constitution and reform of the judiciary to recover from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get why they want to reorg OIT. But the rest seems to be more moving people around to get the right ratios of managers to staff. But, whatever. They don’t seem to be able to get anything done. Not a single rule proposal. Everything is policy statements or extending compliance dates. So far they appear completely incapable of managing the agency.

And now that DOGE is gone, the Chairman is the target of staff’s ire. Maybe he doesn’t understand that running around saying staff is overpaid, benefits are too generous and they will never get telework back while he’s there isn’t going to inspire staff to work overtime to get anything done. Everyone will do their jobs for 8 hours per day. But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.

When did DOGE leave?

[Anonymous]

When will there be open positions to switch to internally? Or are we stuck for at least 3 years in current role?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get why they want to reorg OIT. But the rest seems to be more moving people around to get the right ratios of managers to staff. But, whatever. They don’t seem to be able to get anything done. Not a single rule proposal. Everything is policy statements or extending compliance dates. So far they appear completely incapable of managing the agency.

And now that DOGE is gone, the Chairman is the target of staff’s ire. Maybe he doesn’t understand that running around saying staff is overpaid, benefits are too generous and they will never get telework back while he’s there isn’t going to inspire staff to work overtime to get anything done. Everyone will do their jobs for 8 hours per day. But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.

When did DOGE leave?

Because anyone worth a damn doesnt want spend 8 - 12 hours a day in a crappy government windowless office pouring over contracts and IT crap and org charts for 1/10 of what they could be making elsewhere, for little or no thanks. Plus, if I were doge, I’d be super pissed that I was doing the work that MANAGEMENT was and is supposed to be doing all along.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get why they want to reorg OIT. But the rest seems to be more moving people around to get the right ratios of managers to staff. But, whatever. They don’t seem to be able to get anything done. Not a single rule proposal. Everything is policy statements or extending compliance dates. So far they appear completely incapable of managing the agency.

And now that DOGE is gone, the Chairman is the target of staff’s ire. Maybe he doesn’t understand that running around saying staff is overpaid, benefits are too generous and they will never get telework back while he’s there isn’t going to inspire staff to work overtime to get anything done. Everyone will do their jobs for 8 hours per day. But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.

I doubt he said this. And the union has zero credibility, as far as I’m concerned. All they do is whine and collect dues but never get results.

To the extent he did say something like this, he probably meant that the lawyers and accountants and other highly educated professionals should be paid MORE, while many other positions are grossly overpaid (given that they’d be lucky to get 60 percent of what they make here anywhere in the private sector).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get why they want to reorg OIT. But the rest seems to be more moving people around to get the right ratios of managers to staff. But, whatever. They don’t seem to be able to get anything done. Not a single rule proposal. Everything is policy statements or extending compliance dates. So far they appear completely incapable of managing the agency.

And now that DOGE is gone, the Chairman is the target of staff’s ire. Maybe he doesn’t understand that running around saying staff is overpaid, benefits are too generous and they will never get telework back while he’s there isn’t going to inspire staff to work overtime to get anything done. Everyone will do their jobs for 8 hours per day. But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.

Sorry - when did the chairman say that his staff is overpaid with benefits too generous and they’ll never get telework back? Genuinely asking because I didn’t hear this and if it’s the case need to at least try to leave.

Is it really surprising? At the union meeting I went to they relayed the same thing except the telework part, but I'm sure those are his true feelings. And anyone thinking we will get TW back is living in cuckoo land. If this bothers you I suggest you indeed try to leave, because this is what's in store, and thinking otherwise is delusional at this point.

Nothing is forever. People are very short sighted in general. Someone once compared it to women entering the workforce and then trying to push them out post ww2. Eventually everyone accepted that women wanted high paying jobs too. With technology it doesn’t make sense that we must commute hours to use Teams from a different place. This administration won’t always be in power and something unexpected could happen. The people currently in power will be judged including the heads of agencies intent on destroying it and its staff.

The other party wanted us all back in the office as well. The only thing which saved us was collective bargaining, which the courts have basically said can be ignored. So moving forward we are screwed. If Covid didn't change anything long term re. TW then nothing will.

People are way too optimistic in general and think things are just going to go back to "normal" in 3 years. No, the damage this admin and scotus is doing is going to take decades of normalcy and an update of the Constitution and reform of the judiciary to recover from.

Did you read the recent WSJ article about RTO being unsuccessful? Companies are already backing off and managers are openly acknowledging that it wasn’t the best decision.

Thinking that we will never telework again is like thinking during COVID that we will never return to an office.

The private sector only did RTO to lay people off. Except now companies are figuring out it pushed top performers out. Many private sector companies have moved past RTO.

There’s also the assumption this labor market continues and AI takes over many jobs. There is no guarantee this happens.

[Anonymous]

This whole RTO is kabuki theater. Both government and private sector can establish whatever “policies” they want, but it’s virtually impossible to consistently and rigorously enforce them, even if they wanted to (which they don’t). It’s just PR so that the administration/opm and (in that case of private companies) boards of directors will stop nagging them.

“Yes, sir, we have a RTO policy.” Meanwhile, everyone teleworks 2-3x a week under one of the million “exceptions” in the policy. It’s all BS.

The only people faithfully and fully following RTO are low-agency, neurotic, paranoid, risk-averse suckers who are too worried about “getting caught.” You know the type — the kind who drive 55 on I95.

[Anonymous]

Having the same chair as the CFTC is not the same thing as merging the two agencies, which is far less likely from a political standpoint.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having the same chair as the CFTC is not the same thing as merging the two agencies, which is far less likely from a political standpoint.

+1. I think there are several people running multiple agencies now. I think Vought has OMB and whatever is left of CFPB. I also think Rubio is wearing multiple hats and so is Duffy (DOT and NASA).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole RTO is kabuki theater. Both government and private sector can establish whatever “policies” they want, but it’s virtually impossible to consistently and rigorously enforce them, even if they wanted to (which they don’t). It’s just PR so that the administration/opm and (in that case of private companies) boards of directors will stop nagging them.

“Yes, sir, we have a RTO policy.” Meanwhile, everyone teleworks 2-3x a week under one of the million “exceptions” in the policy. It’s all BS.

The only people faithfully and fully following RTO are low-agency, neurotic, paranoid, risk-averse suckers who are too worried about “getting caught.” You know the type — the kind who drive 55 on I95.

Well public agencies are tracking and enforcing policies. Whereas private companies look the other way. However your typical government worker is so risk adverse they can’t understand they don’t really need to RTO.

[Anonymous]

Thinking that we will never telework again is like thinking during COVID that we will never return to an office.

I may be the outlier, but I think that if there is an administration change in the future, we will be able to telework one or maybe (long shot) two days a week. Nothing like it was previously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get why they want to reorg OIT. But the rest seems to be more moving people around to get the right ratios of managers to staff. But, whatever. They don’t seem to be able to get anything done. Not a single rule proposal. Everything is policy statements or extending compliance dates. So far they appear completely incapable of managing the agency.

And now that DOGE is gone, the Chairman is the target of staff’s ire. Maybe he doesn’t understand that running around saying staff is overpaid, benefits are too generous and they will never get telework back while he’s there isn’t going to inspire staff to work overtime to get anything done. Everyone will do their jobs for 8 hours per day. But anyone who has been around long enough knows any serious rulemaking requires people working many more hours than 40 per week. Good luck with that, Chairman.

When did DOGE leave?

Because anyone worth a damn doesnt want spend 8 - 12 hours a day in a crappy government windowless office pouring over contracts and IT crap and org charts for 1/10 of what they could be making elsewhere, for little or no thanks. Plus, if I were doge, I’d be super pissed that I was doing the work that MANAGEMENT was and is supposed to be doing all along.

Thanks. I asked WHEN they left, not why they left.

Anyone know when they left?