track times to be recruited by Ivies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a coach up here in NJ - and amazed the miles kids are running in hs to chase that golden time during their junior year track - 90+ miles a week at some of the schools up here in NJ, and I have that on very credible authority. That’s why u see many kids with peak time of hs career occurring during junior year indoor track - and little incremental improvement thru graduation.

I will say for x country state placing matters - the old adage is “place for x country / time for track”. Although the Holmdel course in NJ does mean something with a good time

OP asked about track, not XC.

some states have faster runners and faster divisions and faster girls vs boys- time is what matters. Conditions are definitely not an asterik on the time.

I don’t think you understand the sport. I used to run against Villanova’s head coach, one of the best in the business. Marcus has related how difficult recruiting can be, especially on a limited budget, and track times alone cannot be dispositive. A real factor in recruiting is cross country performance. Why would you dismiss it based on a comment about the OP’s question? You likely have no idea of how top level D1 athletics works. I didn’t like cross country but ended up one year as 4th in a power 4 conference. My track times were much faster than mentioned here, but I know for a fact that my cross country performances were a real factor in my recruiting. It matters. Given it is DCUM, you likely will disagree but you haven’t walked the walk and haven’t talked to D1 coaches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a coach up here in NJ - and amazed the miles kids are running in hs to chase that golden time during their junior year track - 90+ miles a week at some of the schools up here in NJ, and I have that on very credible authority. That’s why u see many kids with peak time of hs career occurring during junior year indoor track - and little incremental improvement thru graduation.

I will say for x country state placing matters - the old adage is “place for x country / time for track”. Although the Holmdel course in NJ does mean something with a good time

OP asked about track, not XC.

some states have faster runners and faster divisions and faster girls vs boys- time is what matters. Conditions are definitely not an asterik on the time.

I don’t think you understand the sport. I used to run against Villanova’s head coach, one of the best in the business. Marcus has related how difficult recruiting can be, especially on a limited budget, and track times alone cannot be dispositive. A real factor in recruiting is cross country performance. Why would you dismiss it based on a comment about the OP’s question? You likely have no idea of how top level D1 athletics works. I didn’t like cross country but ended up one year as 4th in a power 4 conference. My track times were much faster than mentioned here, but I know for a fact that my cross country performances were a real factor in my recruiting. It matters. Given it is DCUM, you likely will disagree but you haven’t walked the walk and haven’t talked to D1 coaches.

cool story bro - you sound like everyone you are disparaging

[Anonymous]

As a family that is in the middle of recruiting- it is all about the times for track. XC has a little more wiggle room because courses are different but times for girls is still around 18 minutes or lower (no matter the course).

For distance and some middle distance it is expected that you do both XC and track.

And the Ivies are just as competitive as other D1 schools and expect the academics too. My advice is to fill out the questionnaires and reach out to the coaches at any school that your kid has interest in. The biggest thing we have learned is that it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense schools that I thought should be on my kids list- never heard anything from and it looks like she is going to go to a school that I thought would be a reach.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, the college coaches want to see the dedication and devotion to the sport. Hard to be a spring only track recruit. Everything is year round, 100% devotion, working out, running as much as possible.

You’ll still see football/track stars but that’s about it. Everyone else is grinding it out year round in middle/long distance.