HHS RIF

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CDC appears to have started

What is happening at CDC?

RIFs

Say more. I'm CDC and haven't heard anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CDC appears to have started

What is happening at CDC?

RIFs

Say more. I'm CDC and haven't heard anything.

Same.

[Anonymous]

I keep hearing this Friday at my OPDIV. Makes sense. Things usually happen on Fridays under this Admin. Prob Friday at 6.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I keep hearing this Friday at my OPDIV. Makes sense. Things usually happen on Fridays under this Admin. Prob Friday at 6.

Care to disclose what OPDIV?

[Anonymous]

10,000 job cuts in addition to those who already left.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/rfk-jr-plans-10-000-job-cuts-in-major-restructuring-of-health-department-bdec28b0

[Anonymous]

Any way to link this without paywall?

[Anonymous]

I'm not IT, but I'm a decentralized administrative program. If our department centralized us, it would create enormous waste. Instead of eliminating anything, they'd just create another level of managers (I'm sure GS15s) over all of us and more red tape to get through. My current organizational structure is very nimble and flat. We also know that the Department doesn't know our programs the way that we do, so there'd be a big learning curve. I actually can't think of one single way that we'd be improved by having more people over us. You couldn't get more work out of my team either, we're at max capacity.

I'm a large cabinet level Department, but there aren't 40 of us, more like 10 offices. My colleagues in the other offices are also nimble and flat.

[Anonymous]

Key points from the article:

“The worker cuts are in addition to roughly 10,000 employees who opted to leave the department since President Trump took office, through voluntary separation offers, according to the documents.”

“Key to the reorganization is a plan to centralize the department’s communications, procurement, human resources, information technology and policy planning—efforts currently distributed throughout the health department’s divisions and even their branches.”

“As part of the 10,000 workers to be let go, the Trump administration plans to cut:

3,500 full-time employees from the Food and Drug Administration—or about 19% of the agency’s workforce
2,400 employees from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention—or about 18% of its workforce
1,200 employees from the National Institutes of Health—or about 6% of its workforce
300 employees from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services—or about 4% of its workforce”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not IT, but I'm a decentralized administrative program. If our department centralized us, it would create enormous waste. Instead of eliminating anything, they'd just create another level of managers (I'm sure GS15s) over all of us and more red tape to get through. My current organizational structure is very nimble and flat. We also know that the Department doesn't know our programs the way that we do, so there'd be a big learning curve. I actually can't think of one single way that we'd be improved by having more people over us. You couldn't get more work out of my team either, we're at max capacity.

I'm a large cabinet level Department, but there aren't 40 of us, more like 10 offices. My colleagues in the other offices are also nimble and flat.

I’m against centralization but how would it create waste if they fired redundancies? The centralization and RIF work together. Your team would most likely be let go entirely or reduced considerably. Centralization will leave a hodge podge of staff from all over that know a little bit of something but not enough of other things because that was never their expertise. Sure they can learn it but how long will that take? Centralization and decentralization go back and forth in the private sector all the time. Most times re-orgs are BS and a sign of poor management from the top basically not knowing how to utilize their staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Key points from the article:

“The worker cuts are in addition to roughly 10,000 employees who opted to leave the department since President Trump took office, through voluntary separation offers, according to the documents.”

“Key to the reorganization is a plan to centralize the department’s communications, procurement, human resources, information technology and policy planning—efforts currently distributed throughout the health department’s divisions and even their branches.”

“As part of the 10,000 workers to be let go, the Trump administration plans to cut:

3,500 full-time employees from the Food and Drug Administration—or about 19% of the agency’s workforce
2,400 employees from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention—or about 18% of its workforce
1,200 employees from the National Institutes of Health—or about 6% of its workforce
300 employees from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services—or about 4% of its workforce”

Do we know when the cuts will be shared with staff, today or tomorrow? Also how much notice will they be given or will they be placed on leave right away? Assuming there will be no lawsuit because this is a legal RIF?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not IT, but I'm a decentralized administrative program. If our department centralized us, it would create enormous waste. Instead of eliminating anything, they'd just create another level of managers (I'm sure GS15s) over all of us and more red tape to get through. My current organizational structure is very nimble and flat. We also know that the Department doesn't know our programs the way that we do, so there'd be a big learning curve. I actually can't think of one single way that we'd be improved by having more people over us. You couldn't get more work out of my team either, we're at max capacity.

I'm a large cabinet level Department, but there aren't 40 of us, more like 10 offices. My colleagues in the other offices are also nimble and flat.

I’m against centralization but how would it create waste if they fired redundancies? The centralization and RIF work together. Your team would most likely be let go entirely or reduced considerably. Centralization will leave a hodge podge of staff from all over that know a little bit of something but not enough of other things because that was never their expertise. Sure they can learn it but how long will that take? Centralization and decentralization go back and forth in the private sector all the time. Most times re-orgs are BS and a sign of poor management from the top basically not knowing how to utilize their staff.

Take procurement for instance. Even before Trump took office, our procurement team was chronically understaffed, and our own productivity suffered because orders weren't being placed in a timely manner. There wasn't redundancy in the system, so when someone went on sick leave or on vacation, things got delayed even further. With the proposed RIF, we will be reduced even further in capacity - down to one person (or even half a person) doing all the work that a whole team used to accomplish.

Further, procurement looks very different at NIH vs HHS headquarters vs the CDC. What supplies/reagents are needed, and the details/paperwork/systems needed to get orders placed is highly specialized. Heck, it is widely different even between ICs within NIH. So now you'll have drastically fewer people doing the job of many, using a new system that is likely too broad to effectively capture the requirements of each organization.

At NIH, this creates waste by severely delaying the arrival of reagents, meaning that we can't perform experiments within a reasonable timeframe, and our experiments will often fail simply because something didn't get ordered in time. The short-gap solutions are often time-consuming and more expensive.

There you go, creating waste.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Key points from the article:

“The worker cuts are in addition to roughly 10,000 employees who opted to leave the department since President Trump took office, through voluntary separation offers, according to the documents.”

“Key to the reorganization is a plan to centralize the department’s communications, procurement, human resources, information technology and policy planning—efforts currently distributed throughout the health department’s divisions and even their branches.”

“As part of the 10,000 workers to be let go, the Trump administration plans to cut:

3,500 full-time employees from the Food and Drug Administration—or about 19% of the agency’s workforce
2,400 employees from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention—or about 18% of its workforce
1,200 employees from the National Institutes of Health—or about 6% of its workforce
300 employees from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services—or about 4% of its workforce”

Do we know when the cuts will be shared with staff, today or tomorrow? Also how much notice will they be given or will they be placed on leave right away? Assuming there will be no lawsuit because this is a legal RIF?

I think by COB tomorrow. I believe they are supposed to give 60 days, but many are giving 30 days and will be placed on leave right away. I believe this would be a legal RIF. Watching and waiting as a spouse at one of the agencies listed above that is involved in IT operations. I am terrified as my spouse is the breadwinner.

[Anonymous]

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/hhs-restructuring-doge.html

Still light on the details but here’s a bit more

[Anonymous]

They’re planning to eliminate the EEO offices at HHS sub-agencies and transferring their functions to another component.

[Anonymous]

My friend at HHS told me there are rumors they're gutting the measles response team which is just completely insane.