Compacted Math for 2025-26

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Anonymous wrote:RSM kids or those who get enrichment at home obviously score really high on MAP. The rest of the kids not getting enrichment feel bad about themselves for not scoring as high.. its unfair.


The only way around this is to provide meaningful enrichment earlier so kids who need it can go deep. Instead, MCPS offers the harder problems in the Eureka problem set. Sorry, that is not cutting it for a kid who really needs more. -NP


It’s public education, not customized individual education for every student in every subject.


Then PP needs to stop crying that it's inequitable that kids who need more are getting it through enrichment. You can't have it both ways.
Anonymous
My DC scores 250+ at third grade but still complains about how easy Math 4/5 at 4th grade. We do not do RSM or AoPS or any other course outside of MCPS.

Anonymous wrote:With the rumors about ELC potentially going away, I’m curious about the future of compacted math. I know on these forums there have been conversations about them reeling compacted math in as too many kids were getting to algebra without the basics. While I don’t doubt that, I’m really hoping compacted math is available for my kid next year. He took the MAP-M today (3rd grade) and scored a 247. He has been at the 99th for every test. We have him in RSM because he long ago became bored with school math and we want to keep him engaged but he complains about school math being too easy every day when doing homework. We’ve been looking forward to math moving quicker starting next year.

Have the educators on this forum heard anything about compacted math for next year? Anything we should know to advocate for our kid effectively? He has a 504 for anxiety (not related to math) so planning on raising all of this when we meet with the team in a few weeks as well (we do believe giving him more challenge would be beneficial to helping him learn to manage challenge)
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Anonymous wrote:My DC scores 250+ at third grade but still complains about how easy Math 4/5 at 4th grade. We do not do RSM or AoPS or any other course outside of MCPS.

Anonymous wrote:With the rumors about ELC potentially going away, I’m curious about the future of compacted math. I know on these forums there have been conversations about them reeling compacted math in as too many kids were getting to algebra without the basics. While I don’t doubt that, I’m really hoping compacted math is available for my kid next year. He took the MAP-M today (3rd grade) and scored a 247. He has been at the 99th for every test. We have him in RSM because he long ago became bored with school math and we want to keep him engaged but he complains about school math being too easy every day when doing homework. We’ve been looking forward to math moving quicker starting next year.

Have the educators on this forum heard anything about compacted math for next year? Anything we should know to advocate for our kid effectively? He has a 504 for anxiety (not related to math) so planning on raising all of this when we meet with the team in a few weeks as well (we do believe giving him more challenge would be beneficial to helping him learn to manage challenge)

My 3rd grader scored 260+ with no expensive enrichment like rsm or aops (sorry product placement marketers). Now they are in 4th taking 4/5, and is fine with it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:RSM kids or those who get enrichment at home obviously score really high on MAP. The rest of the kids not getting enrichment feel bad about themselves for not scoring as high.. its unfair.

I also think it’s unfair many parents have so much $$ that they can stick their kids in elite boarding schools and buy their way into highly selective colleges.

But we have to work with what we have. The answer is not punching down at the middle class public school kids whose parents are doing the best with what little they have.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RSM kids or those who get enrichment at home obviously score really high on MAP. The rest of the kids not getting enrichment feel bad about themselves for not scoring as high.. its unfair.

I also think it’s unfair many parents have so much $$ that they can stick their kids in elite boarding schools and buy their way into highly selective colleges.

But we have to work with what we have. The answer is not punching down at the middle class public school kids whose parents are doing the best with what little they have.


No is punching at rich kids or middle class kids. We’re stating that it’s public education and that it tries first to meet the needs of the many which is does by setting a base level of where they think kids should be in a particular grade/age. Then it’s tries to help kids with special needs (including gifted learners). After it tries to provide more. Now folks who are pushing kids beyond this metrics and baselines are complaining that teachers and the school district are not doing enough to accommodate where their child is, seemingly not recognizing that the child is not Gifted they’ve just been provided access to more education in specific subjects. It’s fine that you’ve done this but expecting the school system to adapt itself to your every whim is the problem.

If the school system said fine we’ll test everyone and then allow you to take the class appropriate for you BUT note that your ES kid may need to go the MS or HS to get it and you’re responsible for transportation back and forth. Then folks would claim that’s not fair. Folks then try to threaten to go to private school. Well go right ahead because guess what, unless it’s a special school your 4th grader will be doing 4th grade math not MS/HS Algebra.

It’s a school system not your personal education system. If you want that there is HomeSchooling/Tutors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RSM kids or those who get enrichment at home obviously score really high on MAP. The rest of the kids not getting enrichment feel bad about themselves for not scoring as high.. its unfair.

I also think it’s unfair many parents have so much $$ that they can stick their kids in elite boarding schools and buy their way into highly selective colleges.

But we have to work with what we have. The answer is not punching down at the middle class public school kids whose parents are doing the best with what little they have.


No is punching at rich kids or middle class kids. We’re stating that it’s public education and that it tries first to meet the needs of the many which is does by setting a base level of where they think kids should be in a particular grade/age. Then it’s tries to help kids with special needs (including gifted learners). After it tries to provide more. Now folks who are pushing kids beyond this metrics and baselines are complaining that teachers and the school district are not doing enough to accommodate where their child is, seemingly not recognizing that the child is not Gifted they’ve just been provided access to more education in specific subjects. It’s fine that you’ve done this but expecting the school system to adapt itself to your every whim is the problem.

If the school system said fine we’ll test everyone and then allow you to take the class appropriate for you BUT note that your ES kid may need to go the MS or HS to get it and you’re responsible for transportation back and forth. Then folks would claim that’s not fair. Folks then try to threaten to go to private school. Well go right ahead because guess what, unless it’s a special school your 4th grader will be doing 4th grade math not MS/HS Algebra.

It’s a school system not your personal education system. If you want that there is HomeSchooling/Tutors.


This is OP. All I asked was the future of compacted math. No where did I ask about more than that…I’m sorry you don’t feel you can afford to put your kid in an external enrichment program. But, yes, the school system does have an obligation to meet the needs of gifted kids and MCPS does a piss poor job at doing so. And yes, we’ve had the WISC done and yes my kid scores in the “highly gifted” range so this isn’t about RSM pushing him beyond what the school needs to handle. The point is that kids like him who aren’t challenged are more likely to disengage from school (https://www.mdpi.com/2227-7102/10/10/274). I’m trying to prevent that at all costs.
Anonymous
Compacted math isn’t going anywhere. McPS has repeated this over and over again. That said, they have acknowledged that A) not everyone needs to be pushed into it and B) The needs to be on-ramps and off ramps to best serve the needs of kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Compacted math isn’t going anywhere. McPS has repeated this over and over again. That said, they have acknowledged that A) not everyone needs to be pushed into it and B) The needs to be on-ramps and off ramps to best serve the needs of kids.


Not going to trust MCPS central office when they just recently expanded ELC and now are taking it away. They'd love to take away compacted math too, and tried to a few years ago until parents called to complain en masse. That's really what should happen now with ELC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compacted math isn’t going anywhere. McPS has repeated this over and over again. That said, they have acknowledged that A) not everyone needs to be pushed into it and B) The needs to be on-ramps and off ramps to best serve the needs of kids.


Not going to trust MCPS central office when they just recently expanded ELC and now are taking it away. They'd love to take away compacted math too, and tried to a few years ago until parents called to complain en masse. That's really what should happen now with ELC.


MCPS hasn’t said they are doing away with ELC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compacted math isn’t going anywhere. McPS has repeated this over and over again. That said, they have acknowledged that A) not everyone needs to be pushed into it and B) The needs to be on-ramps and off ramps to best serve the needs of kids.


Not going to trust MCPS central office when they just recently expanded ELC and now are taking it away. They'd love to take away compacted math too, and tried to a few years ago until parents called to complain en masse. That's really what should happen now with ELC.


MCPS hasn’t said they are doing away with ELC.


You are naive if you think it's staying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compacted math isn’t going anywhere. McPS has repeated this over and over again. That said, they have acknowledged that A) not everyone needs to be pushed into it and B) The needs to be on-ramps and off ramps to best serve the needs of kids.


Not going to trust MCPS central office when they just recently expanded ELC and now are taking it away. They'd love to take away compacted math too, and tried to a few years ago until parents called to complain en masse. That's really what should happen now with ELC.


MCPS hasn’t said they are doing away with ELC.


You are naive if you think it's staying.


No. I think it’s for parents to partner with teachers, administrators and past students to show that it is worthwhile to stay. Budget forums are coming up which is the perfect time to advocate for curriculum funding that includes dedicated materials for the ELC classes. Also, that it be part of the Program Study or a separate program evaluation be done of just the ELC program.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Compacted math isn’t going anywhere. McPS has repeated this over and over again. That said, they have acknowledged that A) not everyone needs to be pushed into it and B) The needs to be on-ramps and off ramps to best serve the needs of kids.


Not going to trust MCPS central office when they just recently expanded ELC and now are taking it away. They'd love to take away compacted math too, and tried to a few years ago until parents called to complain en masse. That's really what should happen now with ELC.


MCPS hasn’t said they are doing away with ELC.


You are naive if you think it's staying.


What makes you say that? Do you have inside info on this?
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