APS Laptop use in HS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

Is your kid in APS MS now? You haven’t seen any of the videos or presentations that he’s made?

FWIW, some of the video projects are really engaging. And giving presentations to the class is a valuable skill

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

This is how the world is now! Don't you use a computer all day at work? They will be expected to of this in college, at work, internships, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

This is how the world is now! Don't you use a computer all day at work? They will be expected to of this in college, at work, internships, etc.

Learning and mastering new skills and knowledge is a different task than creating a work product for a corporate environment.

They will have much better retention and understanding if they are not staring at a screen, there are many studies about that, especially with the emphasis of learning and memorization for your handwriting.

In college, there are many professors that band laptops, because they know it tracks from the lecture and retention.

I agree the giving presentations is a valuable skill, and you can make the presentation material on a laptop for page layout, and better displays. But it should be them speaking in person in front of the crowd, not making a video that the class will play on their own, with chances to retake and without the pressure of in person.

[Anonymous]

Please go spend time in a school folks....

[Anonymous]

I'm laughing about the video presentations. What my kid is able to produce now, especially the foreign language ones for their exchange school, is so much more advanced than when I did in the early 90s. Creating video presentations for educational purposes is not a 2020's phenomena. It's just a lot easier and better since you don't have to find the one friend with a recording device (or check it out from the school).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At w-l, they carry their stuff around all day (my kids never requested lockers), so there isn’t much of a chance of it getting lost. I’d equate it to losing your iPad or binder in middle school.

He forgot it at school all the time, but it didn’t matter since he didn’t have any homework. He finished it all at school.

I assumed that they would have more in-depth instruction and more homework in high school, so they be less busy work on the computer during the day and actual homework at night they might require the laptop.

There really is this too much time during the day when they’re on a screen, why are they not having discussions or instruction, and leave the writing of essays to homework?

So they don’t have a locker (unless you request one) at w-l. So there is no way to forget it at school unless you have lost it (unlike middle school where they have lockers). My son forgot his iPad all the time at school in his locker, but hasn’t lost his laptop (yet— he’s only a sophomore).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't every school district use laptops in HS? I'd work on a system to help your DS remember it.

Agree with this.
Your kid is going to have to learn how to manage it at some point. The earlier he begins, the more practice he gets, the more he develops his skills. The world is not going to accommodate his every weakness forever.

With phones banned, he may need to communicate with people via email once in a while.

How is that better? It's more disruptive to have to go into email.

Presumably, because it’s harder to get sucked into TikTok on a school laptop

Do you have a high school student? Don't you know they can get into anything they want to on a school laptop? The cell phone ban is just to make anxious parents feel better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

This is how the world is now! Don't you use a computer all day at work? They will be expected to of this in college, at work, internships, etc.

Learning and mastering new skills and knowledge is a different task than creating a work product for a corporate environment.

They will have much better retention and understanding if they are not staring at a screen, there are many studies about that, especially with the emphasis of learning and memorization for your handwriting.

In college, there are many professors that band laptops, because they know it tracks from the lecture and retention.

I agree the giving presentations is a valuable skill, and you can make the presentation material on a laptop for page layout, and better displays. But it should be them speaking in person in front of the crowd, not making a video that the class will play on their own, with chances to retake and without the pressure of in person.

Shoud we go back to horses and buggies too? Smoke signals?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm laughing about the video presentations. What my kid is able to produce now, especially the foreign language ones for their exchange school, is so much more advanced than when I did in the early 90s. Creating video presentations for educational purposes is not a 2020's phenomena. It's just a lot easier and better since you don't have to find the one friend with a recording device (or check it out from the school).

Exactly. Our junior high video presentations for various classes in the mid 90s were okay but nothing compared with the advanced capabilities of today.

To the one PPP, video and multimedia as a part of learning core subjects have been commonplace in public schools since the 80s if not before. They are not a waste of time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

If this is what you manage to get (you won't) your kid will be tech illiterate and won't know how to manage college or the workforce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

This is how the world is now! Don't you use a computer all day at work? They will be expected to of this in college, at work, internships, etc.

Learning and mastering new skills and knowledge is a different task than creating a work product for a corporate environment.

They will have much better retention and understanding if they are not staring at a screen, there are many studies about that, especially with the emphasis of learning and memorization for your handwriting.

In college, there are many professors that band laptops, because they know it tracks from the lecture and retention.

I agree the giving presentations is a valuable skill, and you can make the presentation material on a laptop for page layout, and better displays. But it should be them speaking in person in front of the crowd, not making a video that the class will play on their own, with chances to retake and without the pressure of in person.

Shoud we go back to horses and buggies too? Smoke signals?

Well we would be walking more and healthier, and less global warming (well maybe not smoke signals)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

If this is what you manage to get (you won't) your kid will be tech illiterate and won't know how to manage college or the workforce.

I’m in tech. My kids will be fine. I just know it’s place and where it adds value.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm laughing about the video presentations. What my kid is able to produce now, especially the foreign language ones for their exchange school, is so much more advanced than when I did in the early 90s. Creating video presentations for educational purposes is not a 2020's phenomena. It's just a lot easier and better since you don't have to find the one friend with a recording device (or check it out from the school).

Exactly. Our junior high video presentations for various classes in the mid 90s were okay but nothing compared with the advanced capabilities of today.

To the one PPP, video and multimedia as a part of learning core subjects have been commonplace in public schools since the 80s if not before. They are not a waste of time.

And this is exactly why public schools produce kids who are unable to write. They should be writing analysis and essays not tweaking multimedia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm laughing about the video presentations. What my kid is able to produce now, especially the foreign language ones for their exchange school, is so much more advanced than when I did in the early 90s. Creating video presentations for educational purposes is not a 2020's phenomena. It's just a lot easier and better since you don't have to find the one friend with a recording device (or check it out from the school).

Exactly. Our junior high video presentations for various classes in the mid 90s were okay but nothing compared with the advanced capabilities of today.

To the one PPP, video and multimedia as a part of learning core subjects have been commonplace in public schools since the 80s if not before. They are not a waste of time.

And this is exactly why public schools produce kids who are unable to write. They should be writing analysis and essays not tweaking multimedia.

That goes back to errors in teaching reading/writing and removing phonics. That has all been reversed, and I’m certain high school writing will go back to at least the level of the 1990s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher at YHS and I don’t think there’s any way to leave it at home. My kids write essays in class or do collaborative work on Google Slides or make and edit videos. I know other teachers give tests online and I’m pretty sure math teachers use online programs daily

This is ridiculously depressing.

We should not be having kids make freaking PowerPoint slides, that is like the worst thing imaginable about corporate America, why in the world is in our education system

Editing videos? That should only be in like one multimedia class, are they doing videos and like history and nonsense like that?

And math should be pencil and paper, even our AOPS course which is online says to do the work on paper first and then take a picture to submit it to the teacher.

Is this because the classes are too big, the teachers are resorting to tools to automate a lot of the classwork? What caused this?

If this is what you manage to get (you won't) your kid will be tech illiterate and won't know how to manage college or the workforce.

I’m in tech. My kids will be fine. I just know it’s place and where it adds value.

Do you mean “its place”? Maybe you spend too much time in front of a screen.