Typical A student is now a B student in math

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Anonymous wrote:Mathnasium saved the day in this exact same situation for us. It only took a couple of classes.


Exact same for us, except in 8th grade. She’s doing 2x a week until she’s got two semesters of B+s under her belt. Then will drop to 1x a week.
Anonymous
What happena when she takes a Khan academy test at home on the same sort of material as the school tests?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Generally speaking, problems in math at one level are because the student didn't learn it well enough at previous levels. She quite likely needs algebra or even pre-algebra skills she didn't fully develop.


She did have a sub for math the last two quarters of the year for algebra 1 because her teacher got fired.


I'd expect that her foundation from Algebra I isn't strong.
Anonymous
Same with my kid. It’s hard. No one is entitled to get A’s in math. This class in particular is very challenging. The material goes very quickly. It’s 1.5 years of math in one. You should be proud of your kid.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:test anxiety


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Anonymous
this year (9th), she has been unusually struggling in Alg 2/Trig


So, what would be her progression?
I'm guessing Precalc in 10th, Calc in 11th.
She didn't need this accelerated progression. You/she pushed this and are now surprised she's not a math genius.
She's just an excellent student. The school, and her grades are telling you this.
Anonymous
It is what it is. A ‘B’ will be a learning lesson.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My DD has always been known at her LCPS school for having really, really good grades. However, this year (9th), she has been unusually struggling in Alg 2/Trig. She managed to pull through with a low A last quarter, but got mostly Bs on the tests. After getting another B this quarter, she started doing math for hours every night, teaching herself concepts before she learned them in class, getting an extra workbook for more practice problems. Just got grades back for the last 2 tests she’s taken and they’re both Bs. DD is devastated because at this point her quarter grade is shot and she’s been working so very hard to improve. She also said that she thought the tests were easy and that she double and triple checked her work. I’m at a loss of how much else I can do to help her. She’s on track to get a B for the quarter, which is very, very unlike her. She has A+s in all other classes. She’s really trying her very best, but this year has just been hell for her, and math usually comes very easy to her. From talking to other kids in the course, she has better grades than most, but she knows this is going to tank her GPA and she’s very worried. Any advice on how else I can help her improve?


Get the tests back and see what she got wrong/right and how she lost points
Anonymous
If she wants to decelerate, she can take AP precalculus next year instead of the more challenging math analysis. Talk to her teacher before doing so of course.
Anonymous
Get a tutor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Generally speaking, problems in math at one level are because the student didn't learn it well enough at previous levels. She quite likely needs algebra or even pre-algebra skills she didn't fully develop.


She did have a sub for math the last two quarters of the year for algebra 1 because her teacher got fired.


I'd expect that her foundation from Algebra I isn't strong.


This is what we found out in our family. We also pushed our daughter into an accelerated math track, only to find out her alg 1 skills weren’t strong enough (even though she had straight As).

The department chair of her high school told us she really hopes the push for early math stops soon because many (most?) students aren’t ready for algebra around 6th-7th grade.
Anonymous
Those classes are advanced classes and are really hard.

Plus, B is a good grade; you seen kind of over-the top, OP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Generally speaking, problems in math at one level are because the student didn't learn it well enough at previous levels. She quite likely needs algebra or even pre-algebra skills she didn't fully develop.


She did have a sub for math the last two quarters of the year for algebra 1 because her teacher got fired.


I'd expect that her foundation from Algebra I isn't strong.


She got in A+ in Alg I. I doubt that is the problem.
Anonymous
I have a super smart and accelerated math kid that really struggled in precalc. We are a year out and he’s doing great again. According to him (I don’t remember this math content at all to comment), in trig/precalc they problems are very very long and time consuming and there are many new rules and formulas you have to remember and do in the correct order. The content to memorize is so much deeper than Alg I. So I do believe there probably isn’t anything wrong with her basic algebra or geometry skills. Math just gets very hard and complicated after geometry.

But I think it is time for her to work smarter, not harder. This isn’t a lack of effort issue. She is putting energy into the wrong places. Get her a tutor that can help narrow down where her problems are and teach her them- rather than her spending hours and hours pouring over her text book and trying to self teach.
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