Which kids should do ELC?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looking over my DDs assignments, I'm not that impressed with the ELC curriculum. The content is over her head and it's not teaching her necessary fundamental skills. My son did the ELC curriculum as well in the gifted magnet--he also didn't learn the fundamentals of writing-- I had to teach him how to write a basic paragraph/essay.

How do you teach how to write a basic paragraph/essay? As a parent, is there an instruction guide for me to follow to teach?

The same way you as a parent would write a paragraph or essay.

-Topic Sentence
-3-5 supporting sentences
-Conclusion


- Introductory Paragraph
- Topic paragraphs and analysis
- Wrapup/Conclusion

This isn't taught in school anymore? SMH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had 2 DCs (different ages) go through ELC at the same ES, but with different teachers. The differences were massive. DC1 had a much more rigorous and useful experience than DC2. It's not about the curriculum but about the implementation. YMMV, but ask a lot of questions about the teachers and their approaches, and check with current parents.

What does this mean, exactly? Is there space in the curriculum for different teachers to come up with their own content, or do you just mean that some grade differently than others/give better feedback on written work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looking over my DDs assignments, I'm not that impressed with the ELC curriculum. The content is over her head and it's not teaching her necessary fundamental skills. My son did the ELC curriculum as well in the gifted magnet--he also didn't learn the fundamentals of writing-- I had to teach him how to write a basic paragraph/essay.

Some of this is very teacher specific as some teacher are better at teaching the basics than others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had 2 DCs (different ages) go through ELC at the same ES, but with different teachers. The differences were massive. DC1 had a much more rigorous and useful experience than DC2. It's not about the curriculum but about the implementation. YMMV, but ask a lot of questions about the teachers and their approaches, and check with current parents.

What does this mean, exactly? Is there space in the curriculum for different teachers to come up with their own content, or do you just mean that some grade differently than others/give better feedback on written work?

DC1 had much more work to do, including scaffolding assignments with the internal steps being graded, and much longer essays to much higher standards. I also think DC1 actually read and wrote a lot more than DC2.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ELC experiences vary widely. My kid is in ELC and she does the CKLA curriculum and then for ELC and she is part of a book club. My friend's kid is in ELC and gets a different ELA class with a separate curriculum. You might want to email the school's reading specialist to figure out how the school implements ELC.

Then your kid is not in ELC. Your kid is in the CKLA enrichment pilot ELC is a different curriculum and at least as of now has no CKLA in it.

ELC is a different curriculum as acknowledged by Central Office. They are assessing this year using CKLA with enrichment options for some students and then determining what if any changes should be made to ELC curriculum to initialize all or parts of CKLA.

Correct, but that doesn’t change that the person who said her kid is in ELC is incorrect. The pilot is not ELC.

Pp here. Principal confirmed she is in the ELC pilot of Ckla

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking over my DDs assignments, I'm not that impressed with the ELC curriculum. The content is over her head and it's not teaching her necessary fundamental skills. My son did the ELC curriculum as well in the gifted magnet--he also didn't learn the fundamentals of writing-- I had to teach him how to write a basic paragraph/essay.

How do you teach how to write a basic paragraph/essay? As a parent, is there an instruction guide for me to follow to teach?

The same way you as a parent would write a paragraph or essay.

-Topic Sentence
-3-5 supporting sentences
-Conclusion


- Introductory Paragraph
- Topic paragraphs and analysis
- Wrapup/Conclusion

This isn't taught in school anymore? SMH.

It is in my fourth graders ELC. He knew about usual types of introductions and the structure of a paragraph. We are in the Einstein cluster - not sure if west county kids get the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had 2 DCs (different ages) go through ELC at the same ES, but with different teachers. The differences were massive. DC1 had a much more rigorous and useful experience than DC2. It's not about the curriculum but about the implementation. YMMV, but ask a lot of questions about the teachers and their approaches, and check with current parents.

I think it is both. A crappy curriculum will mean that everyone will get something g bad. Benchmark was crappy. People wanted ELC because it was better than Benchmark. But yeah, teaching quality always matters. No curriculum will negate a bad teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking over my DDs assignments, I'm not that impressed with the ELC curriculum. The content is over her head and it's not teaching her necessary fundamental skills. My son did the ELC curriculum as well in the gifted magnet--he also didn't learn the fundamentals of writing-- I had to teach him how to write a basic paragraph/essay.

How do you teach how to write a basic paragraph/essay? As a parent, is there an instruction guide for me to follow to teach?

The same way you as a parent would write a paragraph or essay.

-Topic Sentence
-3-5 supporting sentences
-Conclusion


- Introductory Paragraph
- Topic paragraphs and analysis
- Wrapup/Conclusion

This isn't taught in school anymore? SMH.

This is absolutely taught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ELC experiences vary widely. My kid is in ELC and she does the CKLA curriculum and then for ELC and she is part of a book club. My friend's kid is in ELC and gets a different ELA class with a separate curriculum. You might want to email the school's reading specialist to figure out how the school implements ELC.

Then your kid is not in ELC. Your kid is in the CKLA enrichment pilot ELC is a different curriculum and at least as of now has no CKLA in it.

ELC is a different curriculum as acknowledged by Central Office. They are assessing this year using CKLA with enrichment options for some students and then determining what if any changes should be made to ELC curriculum to initialize all or parts of CKLA.

Correct, but that doesn’t change that the person who said her kid is in ELC is incorrect. The pilot is not ELC.

Pp here. Principal confirmed she is in the ELC pilot of Ckla

That is some spin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had 2 DCs (different ages) go through ELC at the same ES, but with different teachers. The differences were massive. DC1 had a much more rigorous and useful experience than DC2. It's not about the curriculum but about the implementation. YMMV, but ask a lot of questions about the teachers and their approaches, and check with current parents.

I think it is both. A crappy curriculum will mean that everyone will get something g bad. Benchmark was crappy. People wanted ELC because it was better than Benchmark. But yeah, teaching quality always matters. No curriculum will negate a bad teacher.

Wanting ELC because it’s not Benchmark is not the solution. And schools that used it as such shortchange either the on level kids or more likely the above/gifted kids that needed ELC.

[Anonymous]

Our school has ELC for all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had 2 DCs (different ages) go through ELC at the same ES, but with different teachers. The differences were massive. DC1 had a much more rigorous and useful experience than DC2. It's not about the curriculum but about the implementation. YMMV, but ask a lot of questions about the teachers and their approaches, and check with current parents.

I think it is both. A crappy curriculum will mean that everyone will get something g bad. Benchmark was crappy. People wanted ELC because it was better than Benchmark. But yeah, teaching quality always matters. No curriculum will negate a bad teacher.

Wanting ELC because it’s not Benchmark is not the solution. And schools that used it as such shortchange either the on level kids or more likely the above/gifted kids that needed ELC.

Well, that problem is solved because MCPS finally got rid of Benchmark. Now they have a much better curriculum, so I think there will be fewer parents pushing to get into ELC just to escape a bad curriculum. Frankly, I trust Amplify more than ELC. Amplify is extrenally created. ELC came from MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had 2 DCs (different ages) go through ELC at the same ES, but with different teachers. The differences were massive. DC1 had a much more rigorous and useful experience than DC2. It's not about the curriculum but about the implementation. YMMV, but ask a lot of questions about the teachers and their approaches, and check with current parents.

I think it is both. A crappy curriculum will mean that everyone will get something g bad. Benchmark was crappy. People wanted ELC because it was better than Benchmark. But yeah, teaching quality always matters. No curriculum will negate a bad teacher.

Wanting ELC because it’s not Benchmark is not the solution. And schools that used it as such shortchange either the on level kids or more likely the above/gifted kids that needed ELC.

Well, that problem is solved because MCPS finally got rid of Benchmark. Now they have a much better curriculum, so I think there will be fewer parents pushing to get into ELC just to escape a bad curriculum. Frankly, I trust Amplify more than ELC. Amplify is extrenally created. ELC came from MCPS.

ELC uses units/content that is externally created from Junior Great Books and from the William & Mary Center for Gifted Education.

https://education.wm.edu/centers/cfge/curriculum/languagearts/materials/
https://www.greatbooks.org/k-5-features/