PA vs. NJ

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Anonymous wrote:I am from the tri-state area and husband is from Jersey. I would never ever live in NJ.

Pa is so much better??

No, I just really hate Jersey.

I'm not too familiar with NJ but am thinking of moving there too because there are houses and we're I live houses are scarce. Why do you not like NJ generally asking pp.

I do not like Jersey because of the traffic (Garden State and Turnpike), the high taxes, and frankly, the people. I’m going to get a lot of hate, but I find them to be obnoxious and unsophisticated. Though I admit I like people that grew up in Jersey - closer to Philly - as opposed to those that grew up in Jersey closer to NYC. Flame away.

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I grew up in NJ and would never live there again. Crazy high taxes and people who never left their hometown or state.

PA has its drawbacks, but there is more culture with Philadelphia closer by, better public transportation, and I do like the housing better. The people can be Pennsyltucky but it depends on the town. There are some charming suburbs like Swarthmore.

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Anonymous wrote:Both states have townships/towns that add an extra layer of government/taxes. An interesting thing is that PA/NJ feel far less connected than around here, maybe due to the bridges bring tolled. As a kid in the PA suburbs, I never visited the NJ side unless we were driving to the shore.

DH is from PA they also never went to NJ unless they went to the beach.

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Anonymous wrote:I am from the tri-state area and husband is from Jersey. I would never ever live in NJ.

Pa is so much better??

No, I just really hate Jersey.

I'm not too familiar with NJ but am thinking of moving there too because there are houses and we're I live houses are scarce. Why do you not like NJ generally asking pp.

I do not like Jersey because of the traffic (Garden State and Turnpike), the high taxes, and frankly, the people. I’m going to get a lot of hate, but I find them to be obnoxious and unsophisticated. Though I admit I like people that grew up in Jersey - closer to Philly - as opposed to those that grew up in Jersey closer to NYC. Flame away.

I'm not gonna flame you at all as I actually value people's opinions but would love examples of "obnoxious and unsophisticated" as different people think different ways of life is unsophisticated.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in NJ and would never live there again. Crazy high taxes and people who never left their hometown or state.

PA has its drawbacks, but there is more culture with Philadelphia closer by, better public transportation, and I do like the housing better. The people can be Pennsyltucky but it depends on the town. There are some charming suburbs like Swarthmore.

Is it the whole state high taxes or just some parts? I feel like it depends on the area no?

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Anonymous wrote:Do not move to Pennsylvania. The schools are terrible. Why? Tiny school districts funded almost entirely from property taxes (which are incredibly high) and in some places, separate school taxes.

Because there are so many tiny school districts with very high salaries and pensions you have two problems: First, the teachers get tenure and never leave, so everyone's teaching 30 years in the past. Second, there's usually one high school, one middle and one elementary. Stifling. You pay a crazy amt of property/school tax for schools, and then you still don't get the breadth and depth of schools in places like the DMV where you have magnet schools, bilingual schools, and AAP classrooms/centers. There is one option for all, and you better like it because it's not going to change.

Also check out how much public college costs in PA, it's ridiculously high. I'd rather send my kid to College of NJ versus the incredibly dangerous neighborhood of Temple U.

Schools full of 30 year veteran teachers? Umm, yes please! Seriously, in what world do you live? Do you not see the teacher shortages all around us? This is a HUGE advantage IMO. And number two is just wrong considering the areas OP is likely considering a move to. My PA high school was fed by 3 large middle schools, any many, multiple elementary schools. We all ended up in the same place. It was great! I got to be with all my friends. PA all the way, OP. Although there are some very lovely places in central and northern NJ as well.

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Because I'm a NYer, I was raised to hate Jersey, but in your scenario I'd pick Jersey. PA is way too republican for me.

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Anonymous wrote:Because I'm a NYer, I was raised to hate Jersey, but in your scenario I'd pick Jersey. PA is way too republican for me.

NYer's usually end up moving to CT or NJ eventually.

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Anonymous wrote:Because I'm a NYer, I was raised to hate Jersey, but in your scenario I'd pick Jersey. PA is way too republican for me.

NYer's usually end up moving to CT or NJ eventually.

Huh, I haven't seen that. What I've seen is that some have moved to NJ, but more have either stayed in NY or moved to South Florida.

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Anonymous wrote:Do not move to Pennsylvania. The schools are terrible. Why? Tiny school districts funded almost entirely from property taxes (which are incredibly high) and in some places, separate school taxes.

Because there are so many tiny school districts with very high salaries and pensions you have two problems: First, the teachers get tenure and never leave, so everyone's teaching 30 years in the past. Second, there's usually one high school, one middle and one elementary. Stifling. You pay a crazy amt of property/school tax for schools, and then you still don't get the breadth and depth of schools in places like the DMV where you have magnet schools, bilingual schools, and AAP classrooms/centers. There is one option for all, and you better like it because it's not going to change.

Also check out how much public college costs in PA, it's ridiculously high. I'd rather send my kid to College of NJ versus the incredibly dangerous neighborhood of Temple U.

Schools full of 30 year veteran teachers? Umm, yes please! Seriously, in what world do you live? Do you not see the teacher shortages all around us? This is a HUGE advantage IMO. And number two is just wrong considering the areas OP is likely considering a move to. My PA high school was fed by 3 large middle schools, any many, multiple elementary schools. We all ended up in the same place. It was great! I got to be with all my friends. PA all the way, OP. Although there are some very lovely places in central and northern NJ as well.

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The PP does not know what they are taking about. You cannot compare state to state. You must compare region to region, town to town, school district to school district and even school to school. Philadelphia suburbs have great schools

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I have family in both the PA and NJ suburbs.

PA: Cuter towns, but Trumpy.
NJ: Better schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do not move to Pennsylvania. The schools are terrible. Why? Tiny school districts funded almost entirely from property taxes (which are incredibly high) and in some places, separate school taxes.

Because there are so many tiny school districts with very high salaries and pensions you have two problems: First, the teachers get tenure and never leave, so everyone's teaching 30 years in the past. Second, there's usually one high school, one middle and one elementary. Stifling. You pay a crazy amt of property/school tax for schools, and then you still don't get the breadth and depth of schools in places like the DMV where you have magnet schools, bilingual schools, and AAP classrooms/centers. There is one option for all, and you better like it because it's not going to change.

Also check out how much public college costs in PA, it's ridiculously high. I'd rather send my kid to College of NJ versus the incredibly dangerous neighborhood of Temple U.

Schools full of 30 year veteran teachers? Umm, yes please! Seriously, in what world do you live? Do you not see the teacher shortages all around us? This is a HUGE advantage IMO. And number two is just wrong considering the areas OP is likely considering a move to. My PA high school was fed by 3 large middle schools, any many, multiple elementary schools. We all ended up in the same place. It was great! I got to be with all my friends. PA all the way, OP. Although there are some very lovely places in central and northern NJ as well.

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The PP does not know what they are taking about. You cannot compare state to state. You must compare region to region, town to town, school district to school district and even school to school. Philadelphia suburbs have great schools

Which are the good school districts in the philly suburbs? Because I've heard they vary quite a bit.

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Anonymous wrote:I have family in both the PA and NJ suburbs.

PA: Cuter towns, but Trumpy.
NJ: Better schools.

Well I actually live here and close in suburbs in PA aren't Trumpy at all and have some incredible schools so ?!?

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