SLAC with strong ED numbers that aren't 35% athletes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even from Sidwell or STA a B+/A- kid isn’t getting into Williams or bowdoin, even with ED full pay. A reach would be bates. More likely ED at a place like bucknell.

I think Bates would be quite attainable ED full pay, esp if rigor and test scores are high. But that is the range. Male vs. female matters.

Unhooked at top 10-20 SLACs without being an A student is tall order. No matter how rigorous the school is, unfortunately.

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Bates has an admission rate of less than 12% and received a record number of applications this year: https://www.bates.edu/news/2024/03/08/bates-receives-record-number-of-applications-for-the-class-of-2028/
Highly unlikely admit for any student, particularly one without a sky high GPA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even from Sidwell or STA a B+/A- kid isn’t getting into Williams or bowdoin, even with ED full pay. A reach would be bates. More likely ED at a place like bucknell.

this is a NYC school that, per naviance, has kids getting into Williams w same GPA. There's a bit of grade deflation, for sure.

[Anonymous]

I researched this last year and don’t remember exactly what I found but the midwestern SLACs were generally better - fewer of the fancy East Coast sports. Look maybe at Grinnell, Carleton, Macalester.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even from Sidwell or STA a B+/A- kid isn’t getting into Williams or bowdoin, even with ED full pay. A reach would be bates. More likely ED at a place like bucknell.

this is a NYC school that, per naviance, has kids getting into Williams w same GPA. There's a bit of grade deflation, for sure.

you know what's helpful - look at naviance at these schools. they schools with very high correlation btw acceptances and enroll are usually because of ED. Find the ones that line up with your kids GPA and make a short list. Then talk to your advisor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bates has an admission rate of less than 12% and received a record number of applications this year: https://www.bates.edu/news/2024/03/08/bates-receives-record-number-of-applications-for-the-class-of-2028/
Highly unlikely admit for any student, particularly one without a sky high GPA.

I think it’s manipulated. Maybe lots of international apps. They take a very high ED percentage. Test score profile is weak. Bates has the lowest endowment of practically any SLAC. Full pay ED all day long but I actually think the school isn’t actually as good as many lower ranked schools.

[Anonymous]

Think Haverford/Wesleyan/Vassar rather than Bowdoin and Williams with Bs on the transcript. Wesleyan in particular is a bit bigger so the athlete/narp ratio is more forgiving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bates has an admission rate of less than 12% and received a record number of applications this year: https://www.bates.edu/news/2024/03/08/bates-receives-record-number-of-applications-for-the-class-of-2028/
Highly unlikely admit for any student, particularly one without a sky high GPA.

Yeah, this just isn’t true. Nearly every kid who applies to Bates ED from a prestigious private school is accepted, period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bates has an admission rate of less than 12% and received a record number of applications this year: https://www.bates.edu/news/2024/03/08/bates-receives-record-number-of-applications-for-the-class-of-2028/
Highly unlikely admit for any student, particularly one without a sky high GPA.

Yeah, this just isn’t true. Nearly every kid who applies to Bates ED from a prestigious private school is accepted, period.

ITA, but I don't agree Bates is as good as others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I researched this last year and don’t remember exactly what I found but the midwestern SLACs were generally better - fewer of the fancy East Coast sports. Look maybe at Grinnell, Carleton, Macalester.

We looked at something similar last year - at Macalester, about 20% kids (about 400 kids) are student athletes. According to EADA data (https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/institution/search)

Number of Full-time Undergraduates: 2,136
Men: 897 (223 student athletes)
Women: 1,239 (186 student athletes)

I think Carleton was somewhat similar ratio.

[Anonymous]

Most NESCAC ED is overwhelmingly recruited athletes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bates has an admission rate of less than 12% and received a record number of applications this year: https://www.bates.edu/news/2024/03/08/bates-receives-record-number-of-applications-for-the-class-of-2028/
Highly unlikely admit for any student, particularly one without a sky high GPA.

Yeah, this just isn’t true. Nearly every kid who applies to Bates ED from a prestigious private school is accepted, period.

ITA, but I don't agree Bates is as good as others.

They fill the class early, and then yield control aggressively RD. International applications skew the numbers too.

[Anonymous]

Tufts is three times as big as Williams but has about the same number of athletes. It also has a big ED boost.

[Anonymous]

Colby ED. Much easier admit than Bowdoin, Williams, Hamilton. And at Colby, honestly, even the athletes aren't that athletic.

[Anonymous]

I know a non-athlete who got in ED to Williams. Was a legacy though. I also know several non-athletes who didn’t get in ED and ended up at other LACs (midwestern, mostly).