TJ waitlist chances

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Anonymous wrote:I understand chances are very slim to move off waitlist as the majority of applicants are waitlisted. Does anyone know how many typically get in via waitlist and does TJ share any info on how high or low you are on the list if you reach out?

Despite all the handwringing by the folks on this board, most of the people here are really just looking for reasons why they should accept and most people find those reasons. Almost noone gets in off the waitlist.

As a percentage, because there are about 1000 people on the waitlist. But how many decline? At our school of 10 offers I think half might decline. I know of two for sure. The school may end up releasing spots to the general pool(or is it 5 a Loudoun only pool?)

Why would they apply if they planned to decline?

Because for FCPS' preferred profile, applying causes them almost nothing and they will have a free option to take the offer or not. But, I think majority will take the offers. Hence, the jump in dropout rate.

There isn't a jump in dropout rate.

There were fewer than 10 dropouts in the old admissions, there are 40-50 now. There are also 70-80 declined offers now.

BTW, anyone had an offer on Friday?

I might take a day to process all acceptances and the waitlist offers.

If you are looking for more information, here is 45 pages of discussion on why a child might not accept an offer to TJ:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1187864.page


Much of this “information” is probably wrong, however.

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Did anyone get in over the weekend?

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When are new offers going out?

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Anonymous wrote:When are new offers going out?

This week based on their decision announcement on April 12.

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When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

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Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Diversity factors will be paramount, as this is the admissions office chance to get the racial profile they are after for next years class.

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Any news today?

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Today?

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Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

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I think the message Algebra 1 students who decline TJ are sending is just that they decided not to attend TJ.

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I am pretty sure there are kids who meet the criteria and apply for TJ. They think more seriously about going or not if they are accepted. I would guess that many of the kids in Algebra 1 who get the offer find them selves really thinking if TJ is a good fit for them based on what they know about TJ. I would guess that many from schools like Carson and Rocky Run and the like are surprised that they received an offer. It will be interesting to see how many accept the offer.

I also don't think it is a bad thing that TJ has students who are not massively accelerated because I think it gives kids who are just discovering STEM a chance to attend.

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Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

Instead of yapping all over the places, you should just answer OP questions.

OP, I asked my kid yesterday if he heard about the waitlisted friends get offer, he said no he hadn’t hear any. Good luck OP!

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Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

What has this once advanced school come to be. Now being transformed into a remedial camp for kids whose base schools remain neglected?

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Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

What has this once advanced school come to be. Now being transformed into a remedial camp for kids whose base schools remain neglected?

Do you mean that you believed any of that nonsense? lol

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Anonymous wrote:I think the message Algebra 1 students who decline TJ are sending is just that they decided not to attend TJ.

Bottom-tier middle school students are being coerced and incentivized with extra credit to submit TJ application, just to artificially inflate the application numbers somewhat and use them to justify the couple of hundred Algebra 1 offers. However, the acceptance rate for the algebra 1 offers is significantly low compared to offers extended to students with higher math who apply from top middle schools.

Admissions are being balanced racially by using lower math of Algebra 1 as the criterion. Ever since the admissions change, FCPS is not revealing the number of applicants by middle school or by ethnic race, which was historically presented as basic information in initial news release.