Explain MCPS magnets to me?

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Anonymous wrote:Middle School: there is a down-county STEM magnet (TPMS) and a down-county Humanities magnet (Eastern) and there are up-county counterparts (won't get into it since coming from DC I assume you're gonna stick to down county).

Your kid applies in Fall of 5th grade and is notified in late Winter of 5th grade. This used to be via essay/testing/scores, but now it is more of a "you made the cut, do you want to enter the lottery?" thing and I don't know if the kids are involved or write an essay because my kid did it 4+ years ago when the process was selective beyond the initial cut. Yes, the cohorts used to be filled with even higher-testing more motivated kids. Yes, the cohorts are still very strong.

High School: if you move you'll know what to do, but basically the big ones are as follows:
- Blair SMACS - eligible if you live down-county
- Richard Montgomery IB - I forget if it's all county but if you live in the down-county portion you're eligible
- Blair CAP (Humanities) - eligible if you are zoned for Blair, Einstein, Kennedy, Wheaton, or Northwood or attended a middle school magnet at TPMS or Eastern
- Wheaton Engineering or Wheaton Biomed (same eligibility as CAP, I think?) - these are selective magnets, Wheaton also has focused programs in these subjects but they are not the same rigor/selection
- Poolesville has a Global Ecology program that is open to the entire county - focused on field trips and sustainability and hands-on science stuff.

You apply for HS magnets in fall of 8th grade and are notified in late Jan/early Feb.

If you live to the west and are zoned for Whitman, Wootton, Churchill, or Walter Johnson, your entire school pyramid will be solid. Some kids opt for magnets if offered a spot, some pass, some do them and return for high school, but any way you slice it these four high schools are excellent. People complain that they don't have special programs but they don't need them.



Not any more. There is no applying in 5th grade. There is a universal review of 5th graders instead. For the HS magnets there is still an application process which happens in the fall of 8th grade.


Not quite correct. There is a universal review for the Math /Science and Humanities magnets for 5th. The speciality magnets like Aerospace, Performing Arts, Design & Development students still have select/apply.


They have apply, but not select. It's a straight lottery, without qualification criteria, for the small number of seats at each school reserved for those out-of-bounds applicants.
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Anonymous wrote:Magnets in MOCO are geography based, test based. Basically kid tests in get an option of a magnet either Math or Humanities based.

One does not need a magnet if at top HS in MOCO.

Most public home HS have all the advanced classes except IB.

Top publics in MD are way better than any DC private particuarly math and science.



What do you mean by "One does not need a magnet if at a top HS in MOCO"? Please explain.

NP. They mean that if you attend one of the top HS in Montgomery county, the course offerings will be very solid to challenge any kid, and the cohort will be strong too. I agree with one of the previous posts that name 4 very strong HS.

These 4 HS may be strong but they don't have the rigor of the magnets.


Nothing is going to have the rigor of the SMCS magnets, but that comparison applies only for the very few kids accepted, or who might have been, if magnet seats were higher in number. There is rigor in several of the other magnet programs, but not quite at that level.

The 4 high schools listed are very likely to have the greatest breadth of advanced options available, putting them on something of a par with those other magnets. Some would say above the other magnets, some might not, and it depends on the magnet in question and the breadth of subjects for which a student would seek advanced coursework.

The reason for that breadth at some local schools is that MCPS has schools plan courses and teaching personnel based upon "pull from the community". That means that schools with a larger number of higher-performing students and/or demanding families will more likely try to have those courses available. And having had such in the past, awareness increases interest on the one hand, while staffing is already in place on the other. This is one of the more challenging equity problems that MCPS has not addressed well, leaving high-performing/high-potential students in schools without a large peer cohort with fewer options at their local HS.

However, all MCPS high schools offer at least some advanced courses, and, though logistically challenging, students might access college-level courses via MC2/dual enrollment. The consortia schools also offer access to some of the magnet programs previously listed only for those in-bounds.

Also, different HS administrations have different rules for what a student might take in a particular grade, including among those 4 listed. That might differentially limit, to a degree, access to some courses or combinations of courses in the first place.
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Hi all- OP here, just wanted to say thank you for all the thoughtful and detailed answers! Looks increasingly likely that we will follow the well-trod (trodden?) path from NWDC to MOCO. I will bookmark some of these links - really appreciate it
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Anonymous wrote:Hi all- OP here, just wanted to say thank you for all the thoughtful and detailed answers! Looks increasingly likely that we will follow the well-trod (trodden?) path from NWDC to MOCO. I will bookmark some of these links - really appreciate it


I don’t think anyone has mentioned the (small) benefit of living in-bounds for Takoma Park Middle School if you’re aiming for the TPMS magnet. There are 25 seats set aside for in-bounds TPMS students, so it can be slightly easier to get into the program from in-bounds.

They still have to meet the cutoff scores to be placed in the lottery pool—and plenty of in-bounds kids will—but you’d be competing against a somewhat proportionally smaller pool in the lottery for those in-bounds MS STEM magnet spots, vs. the whole downcounty pool vying for the other 100 slots.

Still nothing guaranteed, but at least your kid would have access to the same extracurricular math teams that the magnet kids would. And they have an amazing instrumental music program, if your kid is into that.
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Additionally at TPMS if you didn’t make the lottery for the magnet program there are really only 1 or 2 classes that are held for magnet enrolled students only. So you can still benefit from the majority of the classes offered particularly if you are tracked for the fast math.
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Anonymous wrote:Middle School: there is a down-county STEM magnet (TPMS) and a down-county Humanities magnet (Eastern) and there are up-county counterparts (won't get into it since coming from DC I assume you're gonna stick to down county).

Your kid applies in Fall of 5th grade and is notified in late Winter of 5th grade. This used to be via essay/testing/scores, but now it is more of a "you made the cut, do you want to enter the lottery?" thing and I don't know if the kids are involved or write an essay because my kid did it 4+ years ago when the process was selective beyond the initial cut. Yes, the cohorts used to be filled with even higher-testing more motivated kids. Yes, the cohorts are still very strong.

High School: if you move you'll know what to do, but basically the big ones are as follows:
- Blair SMACS - eligible if you live down-county
- Richard Montgomery IB - I forget if it's all county but if you live in the down-county portion you're eligible
- Blair CAP (Humanities) - eligible if you are zoned for Blair, Einstein, Kennedy, Wheaton, or Northwood or attended a middle school magnet at TPMS or Eastern
- Wheaton Engineering or Wheaton Biomed (same eligibility as CAP, I think?) - these are selective magnets, Wheaton also has focused programs in these subjects but they are not the same rigor/selection
- Poolesville has a Global Ecology program that is open to the entire county - focused on field trips and sustainability and hands-on science stuff.

You apply for HS magnets in fall of 8th grade and are notified in late Jan/early Feb.

If you live to the west and are zoned for Whitman, Wootton, Churchill, or Walter Johnson, your entire school pyramid will be solid. Some kids opt for magnets if offered a spot, some pass, some do them and return for high school, but any way you slice it these four high schools are excellent. People complain that they don't have special programs but they don't need them.



Not any more. There is no applying in 5th grade. There is a universal review of 5th graders instead. For the HS magnets there is still an application process which happens in the fall of 8th grade.


Not quite correct. There is a universal review for the Math /Science and Humanities magnets for 5th. The speciality magnets like Aerospace, Performing Arts, Design & Development students still have select/apply.


They have apply, but not select. It's a straight lottery, without qualification criteria, for the small number of seats at each school reserved for those out-of-bounds applicants.


This is close but with a small correction. Yes, it is a lottery. However, they say they take into account socioeconomic and demographic factors and they certainly take into account siblings in school already (but not siblings who graduated). In the open day at Parkland this year they told us chances of getting into your preferred school are ~10%.
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