UVA - out of state admissions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The out of state pool is where legacy matters.

NP
adding that OOS legacies are considered in the 2/3 in-state pool of admissions.

UVA dropped legacy hooks this past summer but if you have a relevant legacy story the applicant can put it in a supplemental essay

They didn’t drop consideration of legacy. They are considering in a different way though.

[Anonymous]

Its getting harder every year. My DS's OOS roommate's sister applied for this fall and was denied, not even waitlisted, and she had better stats than her brother, and is a female interested in CS (not enginnering school) with tons of amazing ECs and great stats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The out of state pool is where legacy matters.

NP
adding that OOS legacies are considered in the 2/3 in-state pool of admissions.

UVA dropped legacy hooks this past summer but if you have a relevant legacy story the applicant can put it in a supplemental essay

They didn’t drop consideration of legacy. They are considering in a different way though.

https://www.campusreform.org/article/uva-de-emphasizes-legacy-admissions-replaces-checkbox-with-essay-question-on-universities-ties/23770

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The out of state pool is where legacy matters.

NP
adding that OOS legacies are considered in the 2/3 in-state pool of admissions.

UVA dropped legacy hooks this past summer but if you have a relevant legacy story the applicant can put it in a supplemental essay

They didn’t drop consideration of legacy. They are considering in a different way though.

https://www.campusreform.org/article/uva-de-emphasizes-legacy-admissions-replaces-checkbox-with-essay-question-on-universities-ties/23770

and WaPo said this. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/01/uva-legacy-admissions-college-application/

[Anonymous]

They are not legacy blind. They are legacy optional.

[Anonymous]

I know of 3 OOS who were admitted from wait list last year.

[Anonymous]

Last year there were many more OOS EA applicants than in state but more in state ED than OOS ED apps.

For this fall (entering next fall) they didn’t break down the number of OOS ED apps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last year there were many more OOS EA applicants than in state but more in state ED than OOS ED apps.

For this fall (entering next fall) they didn’t break down the number of OOS ED apps.

That makes complete sense. Very few OOS applicants want to be stuck attending UVA when they have better choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year there were many more OOS EA applicants than in state but more in state ED than OOS ED apps.

For this fall (entering next fall) they didn’t break down the number of OOS ED apps.

That makes complete sense. Very few OOS applicants want to be stuck attending UVA when they have better choices.

Nice troll! of course the real reason is that in state students know they can afford it so have no problem going ED where OOS has to weight merit etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its getting harder every year. My DS's OOS roommate's sister applied for this fall and was denied, not even waitlisted, and she had better stats than her brother, and is a female interested in CS (not enginnering school) with tons of amazing ECs and great stats.

Still amazed that people think CS — regardless of gender — is anything but a huge negative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA is tricky. You can’t tell from naviance if the OOS kids who were rejected took the courses that UVA expects them to take. The most important thing to UVA is the coursework and the grades. A 4.5 or 4.6 doesn’t tell you much.

At my kid’s oos school a ton of kids are applying this year even though they know that they don’t have the coursework or grades that are needed tp get in.

What courses do they expect them to take? Most students applying know to take 4 years English, social sciences, math, science, and foreign language. Are there specific classes UVA is looking for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is tricky. You can’t tell from naviance if the OOS kids who were rejected took the courses that UVA expects them to take. The most important thing to UVA is the coursework and the grades. A 4.5 or 4.6 doesn’t tell you much.

At my kid’s oos school a ton of kids are applying this year even though they know that they don’t have the coursework or grades that are needed tp get in.

What courses do they expect them to take? Most students applying know to take 4 years English, social sciences, math, science, and foreign language. Are there specific classes UVA is looking for?

They should ideally have at least one of those classes in each core subject at the AP or IB level. A lot of students don’t have all of that. They will skip AP English or skip AP foreign language etc.

These students still apply. It is my understanding that there are many students at my kid’s school who applied EA this year who didn’t take 4 years of each of those subjects and also didn’t have AP level in all subjects.

[Anonymous]

From the other thread- are they penalizing kids that left the race box blank?

They claim race isn’t considered when reviewing the applications.

They should not have it on common app at all, but instead only ask students at time of enrollment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the other thread- are they penalizing kids that left the race box blank?

They claim race isn’t considered when reviewing the applications.

They should not have it on common app at all, but instead only ask students at time of enrollment.

And it’s fine to have the question about background/identity, but the race box should be removed.

It should only be provided at time of enrollment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is tricky. You can’t tell from naviance if the OOS kids who were rejected took the courses that UVA expects them to take. The most important thing to UVA is the coursework and the grades. A 4.5 or 4.6 doesn’t tell you much.

At my kid’s oos school a ton of kids are applying this year even though they know that they don’t have the coursework or grades that are needed tp get in.

What courses do they expect them to take? Most students applying know to take 4 years English, social sciences, math, science, and foreign language. Are there specific classes UVA is looking for?

They should ideally have at least one of those classes in each core subject at the AP or IB level. A lot of students don’t have all of that. They will skip AP English or skip AP foreign language etc.

These students still apply. It is my understanding that there are many students at my kid’s school who applied EA this year who didn’t take 4 years of each of those subjects and also didn’t have AP level in all subjects.

Interesting, those are OOS students you’re referring to? I would assume only the most competitive students would apply to UVA OOS. But, on second thought, I can see that; some students aren’t well informed. My kid has a friend applying to Amherst and Yale whose classes were mid-range in rigor. No hooks, regular white kid who is super nice, but doesn’t have access to good advice.