What Winter Championship meets do you like and why?

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Anonymous wrote:Mom of College Swimmer-I always liked the Potomac Marlin's winter classic at GMU. It wasn't too fast, and a lot of people make finals for the first time. I also like that pool and parking lot. When my kid got faster they went to NCAP, and that meet is super fast, some of the fastest high school swimmers in the country.

NCI is super fast. My kid just made the cut in one event and was a little bummed because he knows he will be at the bottom at NCI vs making the finals at Turkey Claus.

Is this the one at UMD? Am I looking at the right meet? The cuts do not seem fast at all.

Look at the results from last year.

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Anonymous wrote:Mom of College Swimmer-I always liked the Potomac Marlin's winter classic at GMU. It wasn't too fast, and a lot of people make finals for the first time. I also like that pool and parking lot. When my kid got faster they went to NCAP, and that meet is super fast, some of the fastest high school swimmers in the country.

NCI is super fast. My kid just made the cut in one event and was a little bummed because he knows he will be at the bottom at NCI vs making the finals at Turkey Claus.

Are only certain clubs invited to NCI? It looks like there are swimmers from NY, MA, CT, PA and others there. Frankly it seems more competitive than JOs with so many fast non-PVS swimmers.

Locally, I think Machine and TOLL are invited to the meet.

Do they invite out of LSC clubs too? Or are these just random fast swimmers who come? On last years results, it looks like a lot of kids from AGUA and LIAC in NYC area, but also from a bunch of other clubs in the Northeast.

Yes, they invite teams from other LSCs. It’s fun for the kids to compete against swimmers they don’t see every month.

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Anonymous wrote:Mom of College Swimmer-I always liked the Potomac Marlin's winter classic at GMU. It wasn't too fast, and a lot of people make finals for the first time. I also like that pool and parking lot. When my kid got faster they went to NCAP, and that meet is super fast, some of the fastest high school swimmers in the country.

NCI is super fast. My kid just made the cut in one event and was a little bummed because he knows he will be at the bottom at NCI vs making the finals at Turkey Claus.

Is this the one at UMD? Am I looking at the right meet? The cuts do not seem fast at all.

The cuts are generally just a little slower than the JO cuts in March.

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Anonymous wrote:Mom of College Swimmer-I always liked the Potomac Marlin's winter classic at GMU. It wasn't too fast, and a lot of people make finals for the first time. I also like that pool and parking lot. When my kid got faster they went to NCAP, and that meet is super fast, some of the fastest high school swimmers in the country.

NCI is super fast. My kid just made the cut in one event and was a little bummed because he knows he will be at the bottom at NCI vs making the finals at Turkey Claus.

Is this the one at UMD? Am I looking at the right meet? The cuts do not seem fast at all.

The cuts are generally just a little slower than the JO cuts in March.

You generally need a AA or better to make the finals. That’s definitely fast.

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Anonymous wrote:Mom of College Swimmer-I always liked the Potomac Marlin's winter classic at GMU. It wasn't too fast, and a lot of people make finals for the first time. I also like that pool and parking lot. When my kid got faster they went to NCAP, and that meet is super fast, some of the fastest high school swimmers in the country.

NCI is super fast. My kid just made the cut in one event and was a little bummed because he knows he will be at the bottom at NCI vs making the finals at Turkey Claus.

Is this the one at UMD? Am I looking at the right meet? The cuts do not seem fast at all.

The cuts are generally just a little slower than the JO cuts in March.

You generally need a AA or better to make the finals. That’s definitely fast.

Yes, it’s definitely a fast meet, faster than the Speedo winter champs too in Florida. There aren’t many winter meets that are faster. I’m not the poster implying that the meet isn’t fast.

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Anonymous wrote:Mom of College Swimmer-I always liked the Potomac Marlin's winter classic at GMU. It wasn't too fast, and a lot of people make finals for the first time. I also like that pool and parking lot. When my kid got faster they went to NCAP, and that meet is super fast, some of the fastest high school swimmers in the country.

NCI is super fast. My kid just made the cut in one event and was a little bummed because he knows he will be at the bottom at NCI vs making the finals at Turkey Claus.

Are only certain clubs invited to NCI? It looks like there are swimmers from NY, MA, CT, PA and others there. Frankly it seems more competitive than JOs with so many fast non-PVS swimmers.

The 15&O level is particularly competitive.

But aren't the super fast 15&overs going to Winter Juniors in Columbus?

Sometimes they just come to the NCI.

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Anonymous wrote:Mom of College Swimmer-I always liked the Potomac Marlin's winter classic at GMU. It wasn't too fast, and a lot of people make finals for the first time. I also like that pool and parking lot. When my kid got faster they went to NCAP, and that meet is super fast, some of the fastest high school swimmers in the country.

NCI is super fast. My kid just made the cut in one event and was a little bummed because he knows he will be at the bottom at NCI vs making the finals at Turkey Claus.

Is this the one at UMD? Am I looking at the right meet? The cuts do not seem fast at all.

The cuts are generally just a little slower than the JO cuts in March.

You generally need a AA or better to make the finals. That’s definitely fast.

Yes, it’s definitely a fast meet, faster than the Speedo winter champs too in Florida. There aren’t many winter meets that are faster. I’m not the poster implying that the meet isn’t fast.

15 and over is ridiculously fast

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I am not talking about the winter champs in Florida, I am referring to the winter juniors east in Columbus, the same weekend as NCAP Invite. Wouldn’t most of the really fast 15&overs go to Columbus? I thought they were all trying to make that meet to get recruited.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not talking about the winter champs in Florida, I am referring to the winter juniors east in Columbus, the same weekend as NCAP Invite. Wouldn’t most of the really fast 15&overs go to Columbus? I thought they were all trying to make that meet to get recruited.

NCAPs fastest 15 and overs generally go to NCI.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not talking about the winter champs in Florida, I am referring to the winter juniors east in Columbus, the same weekend as NCAP Invite. Wouldn’t most of the really fast 15&overs go to Columbus? I thought they were all trying to make that meet to get recruited.

NCAPs fastest 15 and overs generally go to NCI.

I think these meets are apples to oranges. Winter Juniors is a national meet that is faster than futures that will have a handful of PVS swimmers. Different league than any PVS invite meet.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not talking about the winter champs in Florida, I am referring to the winter juniors east in Columbus, the same weekend as NCAP Invite. Wouldn’t most of the really fast 15&overs go to Columbus? I thought they were all trying to make that meet to get recruited.

NCAPs fastest 15 and overs generally go to NCI.

No, any swimmer who qualified for Winter Juniors is most certainly not going to an NCAP meet. They are not remotely in the same realm.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not talking about the winter champs in Florida, I am referring to the winter juniors east in Columbus, the same weekend as NCAP Invite. Wouldn’t most of the really fast 15&overs go to Columbus? I thought they were all trying to make that meet to get recruited.

NCAPs fastest 15 and overs generally go to NCI.

No, any swimmer who qualified for Winter Juniors is most certainly not going to an NCAP meet. They are not remotely in the same realm.

Well considering Camille Spink, Caven Gormsen and Tess Howley were all there last year you would be wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not talking about the winter champs in Florida, I am referring to the winter juniors east in Columbus, the same weekend as NCAP Invite. Wouldn’t most of the really fast 15&overs go to Columbus? I thought they were all trying to make that meet to get recruited.

NCAPs fastest 15 and overs generally go to NCI.

No, any swimmer who qualified for Winter Juniors is most certainly not going to an NCAP meet. They are not remotely in the same realm.

This is not correct- NCap swimmers will always go to NCI EVEN IF they have Winter Juniors cuts. It's non-negotiable for NCap swimmers. That's why you saw Trials qualifiers and junior national team members at NCI and not Winter Juniors.

non-NCap swimmers who make Winter Juniors cuts go to Winter Juniors, tho for sure

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Anonymous wrote:I am not talking about the winter champs in Florida, I am referring to the winter juniors east in Columbus, the same weekend as NCAP Invite. Wouldn’t most of the really fast 15&overs go to Columbus? I thought they were all trying to make that meet to get recruited.

NCAPs fastest 15 and overs generally go to NCI.

No, any swimmer who qualified for Winter Juniors is most certainly not going to an NCAP meet. They are not remotely in the same realm.

If you look at last year’s results, there were in fact swimmers at NCI with times that qualified them for winter juniors. It’s only 2-3 per event, but there are some.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not talking on about the winter champs in Florida, I am referring to the winter juniors east in Columbus, the same weekend as NCAP Invite. Wouldn’t most of the really fast 15&overs go to Columbus? I thought they were all trying to make that meet to get recruited.

NCAPs fastest 15 and overs generally go to NCI.

No, any swimmer who qualified for Winter Juniors is most certainly not going to an NCAP meet. They are not remotely in the same realm.

If you look at last year’s results, there were in fact swimmers at NCI with times that qualified them for winter juniors. It’s only 2-3 per event, but there are some.

I don’t understand why some of these PPs are just straight talking out of their @sses about something that is so easily disproved by looking at the participants at last year’s meet and their times.