Let’s talk election results. I guess we’re even MORE progressive now in the face of rising crime.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maybe people are watching the news and see what criminals the GOP are. Hard to run as being tough in crime when your party is the party of gun lovers and insurrectionists.


You don't have to elect progressives in order to vote for Democrats.
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's a split. Mayor, AG, at-large and Chair that just won are all moderates. The new Ward councilmembrs are more progressive.

Basically, rich white people in Wards 1 and 3 (Nadeu andn Frumin) and 6 (Allen unopposed) don't really understand that crime is bad for black people primarily and instead get feel-good votes that they imagine make them Good White People.


Explain Ward 5, a majority Black ward that elected a progressive, rejecting the Bowser and Washington Post-endorsed candidate?

The easy explanation is that Racine is the local political kingmaker and Bowser has no coattails.


Fairly accurate. I'm about to post something about this. But, obviously it has nothing to do with White Guilt or "Good White People" or whatever other psycho babble the PP is pushing
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There's a split. Mayor, AG, at-large and Chair that just won are all moderates. The new Ward councilmembrs are more progressive.

Basically, rich white people in Wards 1 and 3 (Nadeu andn Frumin) and 6 (Allen unopposed) don't really understand that crime is bad for black people primarily and instead get feel-good votes that they imagine make them Good White People.


Ward 1 is not only rich white people (nor is Ward 6). And policing and crime didn't seem like a major focus of the Ward 3 race for any of the candidates. (If anything, people in Ward 3 lately seem shocked — SHOCKED! — to find that crime sometimes happens here, too, and so you'd think someone could have run hard at that and done well with it, but apparently not.) Also, the D.C. attorney general isn't the chief prosecutor of crimes in the city, anyway, so crime is only tangentially related to that election.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maybe people are watching the news and see what criminals the GOP are. Hard to run as being tough in crime when your party is the party of gun lovers and insurrectionists.


There's got to be some middle ground between wokeism and fascism, no?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's a split. Mayor, AG, at-large and Chair that just won are all moderates. The new Ward councilmembrs are more progressive.

Basically, rich white people in Wards 1 and 3 (Nadeu andn Frumin) and 6 (Allen unopposed) don't really understand that crime is bad for black people primarily and instead get feel-good votes that they imagine make them Good White People.



This completely. At least these ward 3 residents can remain in good standing on the Georgetown cocktail party circuit


Yeah, because we all know people at Georgetown cocktail parties are big fans of higher city taxes, lighter sentences for criminals, and making it harder to drive around D.C.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe people are watching the news and see what criminals the GOP are. Hard to run as being tough in crime when your party is the party of gun lovers and insurrectionists.


You don't have to elect progressives in order to vote for Democrats.


This. We've had dem mayors and council members who were tough on crime.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So we’re taking the “addressing the root cause of crime” approach I see with an election of Brian Schwab and an even more left wing, progressive set of council members. At least Bowser won, but still I’m sure it’ll be easier for them to override a veto in order to not keep citizens safe when they pass more soft on crime legislation. What’s next? Taking up the age limit for the youth Rehabiliation act to 31? Less police? Sounds great.

Ugh I wish residents here would pull their heads out of their azzes. Look up once in a while. Maybe a more moderate city council would actually help bring crime down by electing folks who understand that arresting violent criminals is okay, too.

I bet we see other stupid policies like taxes unfriendly on businesses and pushing super low AMI% subsidized housing, so we can be sure to grow more crime organically in areas those pop up.


Wait what?

Spiva was endorsed by the progressives, Schwalb was endorsed by the Washington Post. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe people are watching the news and see what criminals the GOP are. Hard to run as being tough in crime when your party is the party of gun lovers and insurrectionists.


There's got to be some middle ground between wokeism and fascism, no?


The discourse was very surprising to me. Nadeau supporters called anyone voting for Salah, cop-lovers etc. in other words too, it was almost like if you were to vote moderate it’s a Trump vote… or maybe it’s just the advantage of incumbency and inertia

I’m glad Bowser won, and actually really liked Racine a lot. However, I would hope for an Independent upset or two in November in council
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in other wards
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Frumin publicly said that he supports more funding for MPD in the Washington Post. I'm not sure why people think he will be more progressive than Cheh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So we’re taking the “addressing the root cause of crime” approach I see with an election of Brian Schwab and an even more left wing, progressive set of council members. At least Bowser won, but still I’m sure it’ll be easier for them to override a veto in order to not keep citizens safe when they pass more soft on crime legislation. What’s next? Taking up the age limit for the youth Rehabiliation act to 31? Less police? Sounds great.

Ugh I wish residents here would pull their heads out of their azzes. Look up once in a while. Maybe a more moderate city council would actually help bring crime down by electing folks who understand that arresting violent criminals is okay, too.

I bet we see other stupid policies like taxes unfriendly on businesses and pushing super low AMI% subsidized housing, so we can be sure to grow more crime organically in areas those pop up.


Wait what?

Spiva was endorsed by the progressives, Schwalb was endorsed by the Washington Post. You have no idea what you are talking about.


Schwalb was endorsed by and is in the mold of Racine, who was reluctant to prosecute criminals. Get with the times.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So we’re taking the “addressing the root cause of crime” approach I see with an election of Brian Schwab and an even more left wing, progressive set of council members. At least Bowser won, but still I’m sure it’ll be easier for them to override a veto in order to not keep citizens safe when they pass more soft on crime legislation. What’s next? Taking up the age limit for the youth Rehabiliation act to 31? Less police? Sounds great.

Ugh I wish residents here would pull their heads out of their azzes. Look up once in a while. Maybe a more moderate city council would actually help bring crime down by electing folks who understand that arresting violent criminals is okay, too.

I bet we see other stupid policies like taxes unfriendly on businesses and pushing super low AMI% subsidized housing, so we can be sure to grow more crime organically in areas those pop up.


Wait what?

Spiva was endorsed by the progressives, Schwalb was endorsed by the Washington Post. You have no idea what you are talking about.


Schwalb was endorsed by and is in the mold of Racine, who was reluctant to prosecute criminals. Get with the times.


This is the kind of crap im talking about: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dc-attorney-general-wants-restorative-justice-for-all-juvenile-cases-even-murder

This city will just rot if we let violent crime get a pass. Other states have recalled their progressive on crime da’s (Chesa) and have tempered their outlook on restorative justice, violence interruptors and other routes that lead to incarceration. We have only doubled down as evidenced by this election. It’s just that we have a critical mass of progressive voters. Even with rising crime, they just simply double down on soft on crime folks. Obviously, crime will keep going up and city life will suffer, but hey people have to learn the hard way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's a split. Mayor, AG, at-large and Chair that just won are all moderates. The new Ward councilmembrs are more progressive.

Basically, rich white people in Wards 1 and 3 (Nadeu andn Frumin) and 6 (Allen unopposed) don't really understand that crime is bad for black people primarily and instead get feel-good votes that they imagine make them Good White People.


Explain Ward 5, a majority Black ward that elected a progressive, rejecting the Bowser and Washington Post-endorsed candidate?

The easy explanation is that Racine is the local political kingmaker and Bowser has no coattails.


This is exactly right. I don't think DC wants Bowser. There were really no good alternatives. Most people are lukewarm about her. I'm not sure why Racine has become the kingmaker. I think Hubbard was too close to Bowser.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's a split. Mayor, AG, at-large and Chair that just won are all moderates. The new Ward councilmembrs are more progressive.

Basically, rich white people in Wards 1 and 3 (Nadeu andn Frumin) and 6 (Allen unopposed) don't really understand that crime is bad for black people primarily and instead get feel-good votes that they imagine make them Good White People.


Ward 1 is not only rich white people (nor is Ward 6). And policing and crime didn't seem like a major focus of the Ward 3 race for any of the candidates. (If anything, people in Ward 3 lately seem shocked — SHOCKED! — to find that crime sometimes happens here, too, and so you'd think someone could have run hard at that and done well with it, but apparently not.) Also, the D.C. attorney general isn't the chief prosecutor of crimes in the city, anyway, so crime is only tangentially related to that election.


Ward 3 and Ward 6 don't have the same interests when it comes to crime. Ward 3 doesn't see crime, while Ward 6 deals with high crime daily. The problem with Ward 6 is no one ran against Allen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So we’re taking the “addressing the root cause of crime” approach I see with an election of Brian Schwab and an even more left wing, progressive set of council members. At least Bowser won, but still I’m sure it’ll be easier for them to override a veto in order to not keep citizens safe when they pass more soft on crime legislation. What’s next? Taking up the age limit for the youth Rehabiliation act to 31? Less police? Sounds great.

Ugh I wish residents here would pull their heads out of their azzes. Look up once in a while. Maybe a more moderate city council would actually help bring crime down by electing folks who understand that arresting violent criminals is okay, too.

I bet we see other stupid policies like taxes unfriendly on businesses and pushing super low AMI% subsidized housing, so we can be sure to grow more crime organically in areas those pop up.


Wait what?

Spiva was endorsed by the progressives, Schwalb was endorsed by the Washington Post. You have no idea what you are talking about.


Schwalb was endorsed by and is in the mold of Racine, who was reluctant to prosecute criminals. Get with the times.


I really don’t think people understand how limited the scope of the DC AG’s office is. If you’re sick of adults being given light sentences for violent crimes or not being prosecuted at all, Statehood is what you want to be fighting for.
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