s/o Packages, delivery, the environment and guilt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s a time and a place for everything, but there is basically no excuse for not buying toilet paper an toothpaste and everyday stuff locally.

To the above poster: yes, everything arrives at stores on trucks and in packaging, but it’s a volume game. You don’t grasp the difference between one sweater ordered online from Ann Taylor being packaged and delivered to your door, versus a huge box of sweaters being delivered to an Ann Taylor store? A huge box will have sweaters individually wrapped in plastic, yes, but that’s one huge box, not 40 small cardboard boxes each containing a sweater wrapped in plastic.

I can think of plenty of perfectly fine reasons. Basically, you don't know what you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My problem is that it really is impossible to get many items in the store. I live in NW DC and every Target or CVS or hardware store I can get to is total garbage and doesn't carry anything. There are zero art supply stores near me. Just recently I've needed rubber bands, baby shampoo, a specific kind of Raid, unscented wipes for school, folders for school, highlighter markers for school, kids masks, hair dye, compostable cups, batteries, and a potato peelers. None of these items can be found at the Targets or CVSs in NW.

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This is what online shopping has done to local retail landscapes everywhere. We’ve had to resort to buying some of our favorite things online because our Target just doesn’t carry them anymore. Some things we were able to find alternatives for, but some stuff we just couldn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We all need to consume less, period.

And personally, I can't buy my produce at the famers market because that would put me out $150 which is 75% of my weekly grocery bill as it is.

This.

I hate Amazon for a number of reasons BUT I find that if I get something from there (e.g. knitting needles, which I just bought) it actually might save me purchasing additional things if I were to actually have gone to the store. It's like very targeted spending.

Is it net better to buy less but go through all rigmarole and packaging to have it delivered to my house? Maybe not. But I do appreciate that I end up with fewer impulse purchases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s a time and a place for everything, but there is basically no excuse for not buying toilet paper an toothpaste and everyday stuff locally.

To the above poster: yes, everything arrives at stores on trucks and in packaging, but it’s a volume game. You don’t grasp the difference between one sweater ordered online from Ann Taylor being packaged and delivered to your door, versus a huge box of sweaters being delivered to an Ann Taylor store? A huge box will have sweaters individually wrapped in plastic, yes, but that’s one huge box, not 40 small cardboard boxes each containing a sweater wrapped in plastic.

I worked at the gap 30 years ago and every sweater is wrapped in plastic, just as it when it mailed home. Our job was to open boxes, remove the plastic, and fold before stacking on a shelf. Sure it’s another box, but is it more efficient for one car to drive to a mall, than to package orders and send it one truck that is driving to your neighborhood?

[Anonymous]

These arguments are just more misogyny packaged up in environmental guilt.

Women are supposed to make half the household income, do the bulk of child care duties, cook, and clean. And even if they manage to do all that well, some jackoff is going to tell them that they need to spend their weekends driving from store to store to buy qtips, cough syrup, dog food, poster paints, new shoes for junior, and potting soil instead of just ordering online and having 5 minutes of downtime.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know. Has there been any studies of environmental impact of keep brick and mortar shops compared to a delivery model? Deliveries could be made to be more environmentally friendly, resource efficient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s a time and a place for everything, but there is basically no excuse for not buying toilet paper an toothpaste and everyday stuff locally.

To the above poster: yes, everything arrives at stores on trucks and in packaging, but it’s a volume game. You don’t grasp the difference between one sweater ordered online from Ann Taylor being packaged and delivered to your door, versus a huge box of sweaters being delivered to an Ann Taylor store? A huge box will have sweaters individually wrapped in plastic, yes, but that’s one huge box, not 40 small cardboard boxes each containing a sweater wrapped in plastic.

There is no excuse for not installing a bidet and skipping toilet paper altogether.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a time and a place for everything, but there is basically no excuse for not buying toilet paper an toothpaste and everyday stuff locally.

To the above poster: yes, everything arrives at stores on trucks and in packaging, but it’s a volume game. You don’t grasp the difference between one sweater ordered online from Ann Taylor being packaged and delivered to your door, versus a huge box of sweaters being delivered to an Ann Taylor store? A huge box will have sweaters individually wrapped in plastic, yes, but that’s one huge box, not 40 small cardboard boxes each containing a sweater wrapped in plastic.

I worked at the gap 30 years ago and every sweater is wrapped in plastic, just as it when it mailed home. Our job was to open boxes, remove the plastic, and fold before stacking on a shelf. Sure it’s another box, but is it more efficient for one car to drive to a mall, than to package orders and send it one truck that is driving to your neighborhood?

Especially if it’s a postal truck that will be driving to your address anyway???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a time and a place for everything, but there is basically no excuse for not buying toilet paper an toothpaste and everyday stuff locally.

To the above poster: yes, everything arrives at stores on trucks and in packaging, but it’s a volume game. You don’t grasp the difference between one sweater ordered online from Ann Taylor being packaged and delivered to your door, versus a huge box of sweaters being delivered to an Ann Taylor store? A huge box will have sweaters individually wrapped in plastic, yes, but that’s one huge box, not 40 small cardboard boxes each containing a sweater wrapped in plastic.

There is no excuse for not installing a bidet and skipping toilet paper altogether.

So, you will just pull up those underpants after that haphazard spray and you are all done, huh? You've used one of those things, right? Naah. It's a tool, but you still need TP. Some things are necessary. Paper is necessary, sponges cleaning products, yes, plastic for a lot of things, unfortunately, paper towels, toilet paper, millions of products. Splitting hairs over a couple of items such as TP isn't really moving the needle.

[Anonymous]

Skipping 2 day shipping helps a lot too. That allows more efficiency and fewer boxes.

[Anonymous]

Climate change is not going to be fixed by going to stores. Geez. We need fewer people buying less stuff making less waste. Period.

So, have 1 kid if you want to be a parent. Buy only what you really need. And stop giving grandpa in a coma antibiotics.