Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

Anonymous
I've been thinking about Crossfield and the high school bus. As we get further and further into the school year, I've noticed more and more cars dropping kids off on our corner at 7:30. I finally asked a neighbor about it and it turns out our stop is the last stop on the route - parents are dropping our kids off on our street so that they can wake up a half an hour later in the mornings. Oakton starts at 8:10 and our stop is the last one, that means the kids at the last stop are on the bus for at least 30 minutes and the first one must be 60 minutes??

Hopefully the route stays this way if we're not rezoned, I will have a high schooler in three years. Fingers crossed!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, no one knows how to opt-in? And where this elusive link is?


I don’t think you can opt in now.

I guess “to opt in” means you’re registering your kid for the high school, since they won’t allow double registration. When does high school registration start? January?

On a separate note, I think they’ll have to look at the opt-in numbers to determine the boundary, because they have to provide buses to in-boundary kids.

For example, if very few kids from Crossfield opt in compared to other areas, it will be hard to justify a bus for them, which means they’ll likely be excluded from the Western boundary.




ABSOLUTELY NOT. It's not fair to families with younger children to make this decision based on 8th grade parents, many of whom already have kids at Oakton and want to keep their kids at the same school. NO. WAY.


Then move closer to KAA if that's your dream school


DP. No one in the options presented lives far from KAA.


People are complaining about transit times.

My kid lives 1 mile from her elementary but it's a 39 minute bus ride.




That makes no sense. Is she the first pick up?

No one in the KAA options should be on a bus that long.


2nd!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I've been thinking about Crossfield and the high school bus. As we get further and further into the school year, I've noticed more and more cars dropping kids off on our corner at 7:30. I finally asked a neighbor about it and it turns out our stop is the last stop on the route - parents are dropping our kids off on our street so that they can wake up a half an hour later in the mornings. Oakton starts at 8:10 and our stop is the last one, that means the kids at the last stop are on the bus for at least 30 minutes and the first one must be 60 minutes??

Hopefully the route stays this way if we're not rezoned, I will have a high schooler in three years. Fingers crossed!


Pupil placed students are probably being dropped off as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been thinking about Crossfield and the high school bus. As we get further and further into the school year, I've noticed more and more cars dropping kids off on our corner at 7:30. I finally asked a neighbor about it and it turns out our stop is the last stop on the route - parents are dropping our kids off on our street so that they can wake up a half an hour later in the mornings. Oakton starts at 8:10 and our stop is the last one, that means the kids at the last stop are on the bus for at least 30 minutes and the first one must be 60 minutes??

Hopefully the route stays this way if we're not rezoned, I will have a high schooler in three years. Fingers crossed!


Pupil placed students are probably being dropped off as well.


I'm not in Crossfield, but there is a bus stop I can see from my house. I think a lot of parents drop their kids off there rather than have them walk a few blocks. Has nothing to do with whether it is the last stop. The high school and middle school stops are not as close sometimes as the elementary stops.

Some are parents on their way to work who want to be sure the kid gets on the bus.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if there is a link to opt-in for 26-27?

Slide 14 here says enrollment begins on Nov 14: https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/DN829T0122CD/%24file/11-12%20Work%20Session%20-%20FCPS%20Boundary%20Review%20Presentation.pptx%20%20-%20%20SB%20Final.pdf


Honest question, why would you want to? You don't know what programs will be offered. You don't know who the teachers will be. You don't know who the student body will be. No sports or extra curriculars. No idea of you'll even have transportation after year 1. Is your current high School that bad? Our do you have that much faith in our superintendent and school board?


Easy, because they will have teachers for all the classes for freshman and sophomore year and they will have freshman and JV sports, even if they are not VHSL certified. I know they will have the classes and basics in place because they want to encourage kids to attend and be happy to be there. I know that the kids will be encouraged to create clubs and extra curricular activities.

I don’t know the teachers at SLHS and I know my kid has no shot of making sports teams at SLHS, he probably ha a better chance at the new school with fewer kids attending and the sports fanatics attending SLHS.



For what it's worth, I have a friend who is a science teacher at one of the highly rated high schools (don't want to out her) that has already talked to HR about a job at the new high school. She lives out here, and while her current commute isn't awful (20-30 minutes), this one would be 5-10. I know that's just one person, but I think it's silly to think that it will be all unknown and unseasoned teachers. I can imagine that a lot of experienced teachers who are fed up with their current administration or team members might apply to this school so that can start fresh. I also agree with this PP that it's a good opportunity for kids to start new clubs or for younger kids to be leaders in clubs/activities that they wouldn't have an opportunity to at Oakton/Chantilly/Westfield/SLHS. My daughter and her friends have been talking about it and it sounds like most of them want to opt in (no idea how their parents feel, of course, at least one of them is supposed to go to Oakton).


Sounds like your daughter and her friends are currently slotted to go to different high schools and they want to opt-in to the western high School so they can all go to the same school. Not the best reason, but at least it's one that makes sense.


Sounds to me like they are at Carson or Franklin and want to go to the new school because it will work out well for them. And, most of them are likely to go there, in any case because there are many at Carson who will end up there and many at Franklin who will end up there.

Only one school that currently goes to Franklin will probably end up at Western - Oak Hill. And 30% of them already go to Carson for AAP.


Thank God that AAP center nonsense in middle school will end soon.

It's ridiculous that 30% of Oak Hill goes to Carson for AAP. If they go there because it's their assigned school, like the kids from Emerald Chase, that's fine, but to go there for AAP is absurd when Franklin has AAP too.


Would it make sense to change the Oak Hill base school from Franklin to Carson? Then clean up the Rocky Run feeders Liberty and Stone back to base school. 2024-25 boundary yields would then have Liberty and Stone at 95% or less capacity.


No, Carson is already overcrowded and Franklin is not. They are not going to move more kids to Carson.

The easiest solution here would be to create an AAP Center at Franklin and move the Oak Hill and Navy Kids back there. This would relieve capacity at Carson (which is not overcrowded but certainly feels that way) and would take advantage of excess capacity at Franklin.


They have been talking about this since my oldest, who is now in college, started school. She is now in college.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if there is a link to opt-in for 26-27?

Slide 14 here says enrollment begins on Nov 14: https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/DN829T0122CD/%24file/11-12%20Work%20Session%20-%20FCPS%20Boundary%20Review%20Presentation.pptx%20%20-%20%20SB%20Final.pdf


Honest question, why would you want to? You don't know what programs will be offered. You don't know who the teachers will be. You don't know who the student body will be. No sports or extra curriculars. No idea of you'll even have transportation after year 1. Is your current high School that bad? Our do you have that much faith in our superintendent and school board?


Easy, because they will have teachers for all the classes for freshman and sophomore year and they will have freshman and JV sports, even if they are not VHSL certified. I know they will have the classes and basics in place because they want to encourage kids to attend and be happy to be there. I know that the kids will be encouraged to create clubs and extra curricular activities.

I don’t know the teachers at SLHS and I know my kid has no shot of making sports teams at SLHS, he probably ha a better chance at the new school with fewer kids attending and the sports fanatics attending SLHS.



For what it's worth, I have a friend who is a science teacher at one of the highly rated high schools (don't want to out her) that has already talked to HR about a job at the new high school. She lives out here, and while her current commute isn't awful (20-30 minutes), this one would be 5-10. I know that's just one person, but I think it's silly to think that it will be all unknown and unseasoned teachers. I can imagine that a lot of experienced teachers who are fed up with their current administration or team members might apply to this school so that can start fresh. I also agree with this PP that it's a good opportunity for kids to start new clubs or for younger kids to be leaders in clubs/activities that they wouldn't have an opportunity to at Oakton/Chantilly/Westfield/SLHS. My daughter and her friends have been talking about it and it sounds like most of them want to opt in (no idea how their parents feel, of course, at least one of them is supposed to go to Oakton).


Sounds like your daughter and her friends are currently slotted to go to different high schools and they want to opt-in to the western high School so they can all go to the same school. Not the best reason, but at least it's one that makes sense.


Sounds to me like they are at Carson or Franklin and want to go to the new school because it will work out well for them. And, most of them are likely to go there, in any case because there are many at Carson who will end up there and many at Franklin who will end up there.

Only one school that currently goes to Franklin will probably end up at Western - Oak Hill. And 30% of them already go to Carson for AAP.


Thank God that AAP center nonsense in middle school will end soon.

It's ridiculous that 30% of Oak Hill goes to Carson for AAP. If they go there because it's their assigned school, like the kids from Emerald Chase, that's fine, but to go there for AAP is absurd when Franklin has AAP too.


Would it make sense to change the Oak Hill base school from Franklin to Carson? Then clean up the Rocky Run feeders Liberty and Stone back to base school. 2024-25 boundary yields would then have Liberty and Stone at 95% or less capacity.


No, Carson is already overcrowded and Franklin is not. They are not going to move more kids to Carson.

The easiest solution here would be to create an AAP Center at Franklin and move the Oak Hill and Navy Kids back there. This would relieve capacity at Carson (which is not overcrowded but certainly feels that way) and would take advantage of excess capacity at Franklin.


They have been talking about this since my oldest, who is now in college, started school. She is now in college.


It’ll never happen basically.
Anonymous
Was anyone on here at the cluster that was the centreville hs renovation last night? Reid was a complete disaster. Here are some of the things that I am hearing from people that were there:
1. They might not be using any of the four choices for the mapping boundary. Somehow centreville high school will have a section of students that will be attending there.
2. They used the money that was allocated for cville renovation to buy KAA and now will need more funding sources to do a reno there.
3. The reno at cville is pushed back to some unknown date in the future because there is a fight with the park authority and according a Pat Herrity reid has more or less avioded meeting with them to settle it.
4. Reid lied to partents and got called out by Herrity for telling parents that they were in the "permit phase" for the renovation, when the truth is that they are not and that the reno is at least 2-2.5 years away at best.

Can anyone else confirm or claify any of this?
Anonymous
Crossfield/Carson moms freaking out about a meeting apparently being held with 8th graders about the new high school. Are their kids so fragile that they can’t hear about the possibility of there being a new school that some kids might choose to attend? Afraid their kids will actually want to go there? I’m baffled by the freakout. 8th graders from all over the country make choices along with their parents about where to attend high school in areas with they have school choice or if they attend a private/Catholic school. They are old enough to weigh pros and cons and talk with parents about their choices. Why are we acting like kids can’t handle anything that might be stressful for them? If this is their biggest concern I’d say life is pretty cushy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Was anyone on here at the cluster that was the centreville hs renovation last night? Reid was a complete disaster. Here are some of the things that I am hearing from people that were there:
1. They might not be using any of the four choices for the mapping boundary. Somehow centreville high school will have a section of students that will be attending there.
2. They used the money that was allocated for cville renovation to buy KAA and now will need more funding sources to do a reno there.
3. The reno at cville is pushed back to some unknown date in the future because there is a fight with the park authority and according a Pat Herrity reid has more or less avioded meeting with them to settle it.
4. Reid lied to partents and got called out by Herrity for telling parents that they were in the "permit phase" for the renovation, when the truth is that they are not and that the reno is at least 2-2.5 years away at best.

Can anyone else confirm or claify any of this?


NO. I cannot. If what you are hearing is true, it is quite disturbing and another nail in the coffin.
I have a couple of comments/question, though:
1. Does Reid have ANY sense of the geography and locations in the area? Centreville kids to KAA? That makes no sense at all. Has she ever looked at a map?
2. Far more money allotted to Centreville than it took to purchase KAA. So, that is a bogus answer.
3. Centreville's expansion could be pulled back and a smaller expansion and renovation could be performed if people did due diligence on the effort and good stewardship of the funds.
4. From what Herrity said, it seems to me that they are still in the "permit phase" since they don't yet have the permit. Herrity did explain what the problem was with the permitting--and, it appears, they have known this for years.

However, if the School Board and Reid moved in a sensible manner, Centreville could easily be provided relief with the purchase of KAA. Like everyone else, Centreville would like their kids to stay put. Chantilly parents would like their kids to stay put, too--but they all want the schools to be less crowded.
Herrity claims the school is not "needed." That is BS. Chantilly is almost 3000. Westfield is headed to 2800--and still growing. Oakton is full. Fairfax is full. Robinson is full.

Herndon does have seats--but, elimination of IB at South Lakes could help and, perhaps, one elementary school from Westfield would solve the problem. But, remember, the SB would not send that elementary school to Herndon in the South Lakes redistricting because of demographics.

That still leaves Chantilly grossly overcrowded; Centreville overcrowded; and Oakton at capacity and soon to be bursting at the seams.

Where is the voice of common sense?


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Crossfield/Carson moms freaking out about a meeting apparently being held with 8th graders about the new high school. Are their kids so fragile that they can’t hear about the possibility of there being a new school that some kids might choose to attend? Afraid their kids will actually want to go there? I’m baffled by the freakout. 8th graders from all over the country make choices along with their parents about where to attend high school in areas with they have school choice or if they attend a private/Catholic school. They are old enough to weigh pros and cons and talk with parents about their choices. Why are we acting like kids can’t handle anything that might be stressful for them? If this is their biggest concern I’d say life is pretty cushy.


Good grief. When my DD was in middle school--in boundary for an AP high school--the IB coordinator from the nearest IB school came and gave a talk about the 'advantages" of IB. DD liked the idea, but when she found out that I would have to drive her every day and that none of her friends would be there, she changed her mind quickly.

Ironically, her roommate in college had an IB diploma and told her that she wished her high school had AP instead.
Anonymous
A few points:

On your second point, Pat Herrity made a point to ask reid during the meeting where the money was going to come from for the centreville renovation and her answer was "I don't know, I will look into that for you"

On the point that the expansion could be smaller, I do not think that will be the case. They completed the very expensive planning phase already and I do not think they want to spend more money making new plans for a reduced school. Parents were frustrated last night because the renovation is going to take place (by their new timeline if you can call it that) 10 years after the planning phase meaning a lot of the tech they were going to put into the new building will be old and obsolete.
Anonymous
I also do not believe that cville is over crowded, they had 2370 students in 22/23 and are down to 2103 students in 24/25 (according to their school profile). I believe that the number are down again this year and are projected to continue to fall. Making a school for 3000, when 1800 are going there just bad planning and foresight. Then pulling some of those kids to send them to a different school just shows how poorly thought-out this entire thing has been
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I also do not believe that cville is over crowded, they had 2370 students in 22/23 and are down to 2103 students in 24/25 (according to their school profile). I believe that the number are down again this year and are projected to continue to fall. Making a school for 3000, when 1800 are going there just bad planning and foresight. Then pulling some of those kids to send them to a different school just shows how poorly thought-out this entire thing has been


Just checked profile. Slightly up this year--but it appears the Senior class is the largest.
But, the neighborhood right off the back of the school is sent to Fairfax. That is just wrong. It should be assigned to Centreville.

Westfield and Chantilly both have new construction presently and it appears to have it in the future, as well. And, Oakton is going to mushroom shortly.

KAA is needed.
Anonymous
Did Reid discuss how all four plans for KAA boundaries involve moving hundreds of current Centreville kids who live closer to CVHS than WFHS to Westfield? That seems like it would be a major topic of conversation. People like to stay put at their own high schools unless its an obvious upgrade.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Crossfield/Carson moms freaking out about a meeting apparently being held with 8th graders about the new high school. Are their kids so fragile that they can’t hear about the possibility of there being a new school that some kids might choose to attend? Afraid their kids will actually want to go there? I’m baffled by the freakout. 8th graders from all over the country make choices along with their parents about where to attend high school in areas with they have school choice or if they attend a private/Catholic school. They are old enough to weigh pros and cons and talk with parents about their choices. Why are we acting like kids can’t handle anything that might be stressful for them? If this is their biggest concern I’d say life is pretty cushy.


What is really funny is the the RootedinOakton website claims that sending them to KAA will separate them from their peers? Aren't their peers at Carson? What other Oakton kids go to Crossfield?

Is this being orchestrated by the Crossfield AAP parents at Navy? Makes no sense at all.
post reply Forum Index » Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS)
Message Quick Reply
Go to: