“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women weren’t allowed to own property for much of history. Can the SCOTUS vanish that right now too?

Yes, yes they can.


Seems like it right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is going to make miscarriage illegal as well because oftentimes the same medications are used to help a woman through a miscarriage as they do through an abortion.
Doctors aren't going to risk doing a damn thing and women will suffer


And to all the women who say, “but my state is fine” and keep voting republican, the blood of women in other states will be on your hands.

+1
Any woman who votes Republican at this point is psychotic and quite possibly a masochist.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Women weren’t allowed to own property for much of history. Can the SCOTUS vanish that right now too?



Are we going back to some in our society only counting as 3/5th of a person?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is going to make miscarriage illegal as well because oftentimes the same medications are used to help a woman through a miscarriage as they do through an abortion.
Doctors aren't going to risk doing a damn thing and women will suffer

+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is going to make miscarriage illegal as well because oftentimes the same medications are used to help a woman through a miscarriage as they do through an abortion.
Doctors aren't going to risk doing a damn thing and women will suffer


Just stop.
The draft opinion stated
“To ensure that our decision is not misunderstood or mischaracterized, we emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” he wrote. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”

Miscarriage is an act of nature. It is not an abortion.


Google Savita Halappanavar.
Ireland had an abortion ban. She was actively miscarrying in her second trimester but, because there was still a heartbeat, her doctors took some sort of "wait it out" approach, despite the fact that there were compkications. She developed sepsis due to this decision, and she died. The situation garnered much publicity and contributed to Ireland overturning their abortion ban several years later.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women weren’t allowed to own property for much of history. Can the SCOTUS vanish that right now too?

Yes, yes they can.


Seems like it right?

Don’t worry, they have to let the slow witted Republican women get lulled into complacency before they do that. They want them to “keep sweet” as the Mormon fundies put it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is going to make miscarriage illegal as well because oftentimes the same medications are used to help a woman through a miscarriage as they do through an abortion.
Doctors aren't going to risk doing a damn thing and women will suffer


Just stop.
The draft opinion stated
“To ensure that our decision is not misunderstood or mischaracterized, we emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” he wrote. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”

Miscarriage is an act of nature. It is not an abortion.

Even more idiocy from Alito. A miscarriage is literally a spontaneous abortion, therefore it is a form of abortion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is going to make miscarriage illegal as well because oftentimes the same medications are used to help a woman through a miscarriage as they do through an abortion.
Doctors aren't going to risk doing a damn thing and women will suffer


Just stop.
The draft opinion stated
“To ensure that our decision is not misunderstood or mischaracterized, we emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” he wrote. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”

Miscarriage is an act of nature. It is not an abortion.


In medical terms it is an abortion. Are you unfamiliar with the technical definition of abortion?

At any rate, prove that a miscarriage wasn’t self-induced. That is what Republicans will start asking. Just as conservatives in countries that ban abortion have done. And if a pregnancy is failing but the heart activity is still detected, doctors will risk sepsis instead of terminating. As has already happened.



This. Any medical intervention during a miscarriage is labeled as an assisted abortion. You can tell that many people who have an opinion about this actually don't have the facts


They write like 20 year old boys. They probably are.


Nope. Older woman here who has actually had a miscarriage.

When speaking of "abortion rights," a miscarriage and abortion are very different things. While a miscarriage is medically referred to as a "spontaneous abortion," there is no "choice" in a miscarriage. It is an act of nature.
Abortion, on the other hand, is very much about choice.

Abortion refers to the termination of a pregnancy, which may happen naturally or with medical intervention. A miscarriage is known as a Abortion refers to the termination of a pregnancy, which may happen naturally or with medical intervention. A miscarriage is known as a "spontaneous abortion."
Abortion is a term that refers to the termination of a pregnancy. This can occur with medical intervention such as medications or surgical procedures or it can occur on its own.

A miscarriage is called a spontaneous abortion, and refers to a pregnancy loss before the 20th week of gestation or the expulsion an embryo or fetus weighing 500 g or less. Miscarriage at this stage occurs in about 31% of pregnancies.


https://www.emedicinehealth.com/what_are_abortion_and_miscarriage/article_em.htm
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is going to make miscarriage illegal as well because oftentimes the same medications are used to help a woman through a miscarriage as they do through an abortion.
Doctors aren't going to risk doing a damn thing and women will suffer

+1

+2
These women will die. “Good” women in the eyes of misogynist forced birthers, women who did everything “right.”

I find it absolutely deplorable (#hillarywasright) that we’re just going to have to wait for enough of the “right” women to die (and god knows how many of the “wrong” women in the meantime) before the fence sitters and casually misogynistic voters will realize that the GOP hates America and hates women.

Our lives depend on November. Vote those motherkillers out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Women weren’t allowed to own property for much of history. Can the SCOTUS vanish that right now too?



Are we going back to some in our society only counting as 3/5th of a person?


No, because that at least was fixed with a constitutional amendment. Guess we need one now to give people the right to medical care. Apparently the states have the power to stop you from getting healthcare if it’s not the healthcare most people in a state would choose. Sick.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is going to make miscarriage illegal as well because oftentimes the same medications are used to help a woman through a miscarriage as they do through an abortion.
Doctors aren't going to risk doing a damn thing and women will suffer


Just stop.
The draft opinion stated
“To ensure that our decision is not misunderstood or mischaracterized, we emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” he wrote. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”

Miscarriage is an act of nature. It is not an abortion.


In medical terms it is an abortion. Are you unfamiliar with the technical definition of abortion?

At any rate, prove that a miscarriage wasn’t self-induced. That is what Republicans will start asking. Just as conservatives in countries that ban abortion have done. And if a pregnancy is failing but the heart activity is still detected, doctors will risk sepsis instead of terminating. As has already happened.



This. Any medical intervention during a miscarriage is labeled as an assisted abortion. You can tell that many people who have an opinion about this actually don't have the facts


They write like 20 year old boys. They probably are.


Nope. Older woman here who has actually had a miscarriage.

When speaking of "abortion rights," a miscarriage and abortion are very different things. While a miscarriage is medically referred to as a "spontaneous abortion," there is no "choice" in a miscarriage. It is an act of nature.
Abortion, on the other hand, is very much about choice.

Abortion refers to the termination of a pregnancy, which may happen naturally or with medical intervention. A miscarriage is known as a Abortion refers to the termination of a pregnancy, which may happen naturally or with medical intervention. A miscarriage is known as a "spontaneous abortion."
Abortion is a term that refers to the termination of a pregnancy. This can occur with medical intervention such as medications or surgical procedures or it can occur on its own.

A miscarriage is called a spontaneous abortion, and refers to a pregnancy loss before the 20th week of gestation or the expulsion an embryo or fetus weighing 500 g or less. Miscarriage at this stage occurs in about 31% of pregnancies.


https://www.emedicinehealth.com/what_are_abortion_and_miscarriage/article_em.htm

Hey. Forced birther. You get that you don’t actually know anything here, right? People have already explained to you that you’re flat out wrong and still you’re arguing semantics?

Let’s try again: doctors won’t be allowed to do anything for missed miscarriages. Some will die easily preventable deaths for literally no reason other than people like you have internalized misogyny to such an extent that you think you’re entitled to crawl up another woman’s vagina and control her uterus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The SCOTUS leaked ruling simply says let the state legislators decide the issue of abortion. This is actually the correct position. Keep the feds out of it and let the people thru their elected officials decide. The blue states will keep abortions legal and the reds will limit it to 15 weeks or so.

The hysteria over this is … well … hysterical.



agreed, not that big of a deal.


Say the men who don’t have to worry about getting pregnant.


It’s not an accident that PP use the term “hysteria.” PP hates women and thinks we’re crazy and need to be regulated by our betters. DIAF, MFer. You never have and never will know what it’s like to carry a child, the toll it takes on your body, the risk you incur to bring another into being.

I have done it three times, willingly and happily, despite requiring three c-sections (once was not planned, but I don’t believe that inconvenience was a good enough reason not to proceed, but that was my choice, within the context of my comfortable life, knowing it would be another healthy child that wouldn’t place an insurmountable burden on my marriage and existing children). Each time it was a risk. It’s not something any human should be forced to endure against their will, as a “consequence.” Because what “consequence” does the father ever encounter that risks his actual life? None, ever. Nobody with a penis gets to weigh in. The end.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is going to make miscarriage illegal as well because oftentimes the same medications are used to help a woman through a miscarriage as they do through an abortion.
Doctors aren't going to risk doing a damn thing and women will suffer


Just stop.
The draft opinion stated
“To ensure that our decision is not misunderstood or mischaracterized, we emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” he wrote. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”

Miscarriage is an act of nature. It is not an abortion.


In medical terms it is an abortion. Are you unfamiliar with the technical definition of abortion?

At any rate, prove that a miscarriage wasn’t self-induced. That is what Republicans will start asking. Just as conservatives in countries that ban abortion have done. And if a pregnancy is failing but the heart activity is still detected, doctors will risk sepsis instead of terminating. As has already happened.



This. Any medical intervention during a miscarriage is labeled as an assisted abortion. You can tell that many people who have an opinion about this actually don't have the facts


They write like 20 year old boys. They probably are.


Nope. Older woman here who has actually had a miscarriage.

When speaking of "abortion rights," a miscarriage and abortion are very different things. While a miscarriage is medically referred to as a "spontaneous abortion," there is no "choice" in a miscarriage. It is an act of nature.
Abortion, on the other hand, is very much about choice.

Abortion refers to the termination of a pregnancy, which may happen naturally or with medical intervention. A miscarriage is known as a Abortion refers to the termination of a pregnancy, which may happen naturally or with medical intervention. A miscarriage is known as a "spontaneous abortion."
Abortion is a term that refers to the termination of a pregnancy. This can occur with medical intervention such as medications or surgical procedures or it can occur on its own.

A miscarriage is called a spontaneous abortion, and refers to a pregnancy loss before the 20th week of gestation or the expulsion an embryo or fetus weighing 500 g or less. Miscarriage at this stage occurs in about 31% of pregnancies.


https://www.emedicinehealth.com/what_are_abortion_and_miscarriage/article_em.htm


Did you require medical assistance to complete your miscarriage? Because that assistance is what some of us are saying could be put in jeopardy here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is going to make miscarriage illegal as well because oftentimes the same medications are used to help a woman through a miscarriage as they do through an abortion.
Doctors aren't going to risk doing a damn thing and women will suffer

+1


The GOP would prefer that she be left to die of sepsis, thank you very much. Support the troops!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is going to make miscarriage illegal as well because oftentimes the same medications are used to help a woman through a miscarriage as they do through an abortion.
Doctors aren't going to risk doing a damn thing and women will suffer


And to all the women who say, “but my state is fine” and keep voting republican, the blood of women in other states will be on your hands.

+1
Any woman who votes Republican at this point is psychotic and quite possibly a masochist.



Women who vote Republic don’t like to think for themselves. They must have someone else do it for them.
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