Another ICE Shooting in Minnesota

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I think ICE/Noem are in too deep now. If they let off the gas, that means Minnesota “won”, even though there really isn’t any winning here.


Trump motto: Never back down, never admit defeat, double down and pound harder.


He learned that straight from Roy Cohen, which explains a lot.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This brings up a qhole other point most non gun owners don't even know about. Pretti had a round chambered (ready to fire, bypassing the need to rack a round it) In the gun world this is called carrying 'hot' and is extremely dangerous. Because Sigs often misfire. Like it did exactly here.


What the actual F?

Why would anyone carry a pistol any other way?



Because it takes seconds to chamber a round and dangerous to keep one chambered?


This is silly. If you don’t carry with a chambered round you’re basically carrying a hammer, not a gun. I suggest you take a shooting from concealed class.
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Anonymous wrote:I think this, as much as anything, really showcases the dichotomy between the thought process of Dems and MAGA.

After Charlie Kirk was murdered, lots of Dems immediately condemned it, said it was wrong, etc. Admittedly, not all, and some AH's even celebrated, but most run-of-the-mill Dems were appalled. Everyone I knew was.

I have yet to hear a single MAGA supporter say that this, or the shooting if Renee Good, was wrong. Not one..not publicly, and none of the MAGA people I know.

To me, it shows this - Dems are still capable of exercising independent thought and critical reasoning. Yes, they abhorred what Charlie Kirk stood for, but they also thought it was wrong to murder him. Both things could exist at the same time.

MAGA genuinely does not seem capable of that level of independent thought. It should not be hard for someone to watch these videos and say, "yes, this was messed up." It doesn't have to mean you don't support Trump. Just acknowledging that what happened in this instance was not ok. But they can't, no matter how plain the evidence. It's like their brains are literally not able to disagree with their leader. It's both sad and scary. And I genuinely don't know how we as a country recover and get back to normal function ever again.


Well, I voted for Trump twice. I didn't really vote for him as much as I voted against Clinton and Harris.

The Good shooting was a bad shooting. Didn't have to happen. He could have moved.

The Pretti shooting is bad because it was a mistake. I don't belive they wanted to shoot him. They were trying to subdue him, "Gun" was yelled and was present, Gray coat runs away with it and accidentally discharges it. That shot prompts the agents to open up.

All of it was wrong, but heres the thing. Good and Pretti were both absolute idiots inviting disaster. None of this would have happened if they didnt insert themselves.

This will continuwe to happen. There will be more. The choice is up to the protestors. ICE isnt going anywhere.


If we can't exercise our Constitutional rights without fear of the the government killing us for doing so, we don't actually have those rights.


Amen. People like PP think cold blooded murder of peaceful protesters is okay. It goes against everything this country used to stand for.


They will rationalize this awful behavior to not have to admit who and what they are continuing to support.


Uhhh, I 100% support the collection and deportation of people that aren't supposed to be here. Make no mistake there. To be clear- you think Laken Riley's killer should have been here?


Then you must object to what's happening in MN where they are rounding up citizens and shooting citizens in the street.

What a lame MAGA-ass stupid thing to bring up Laken Riley's killer. No one they have beaten and pepper sprayed and killed in MN is a murderer.

ICE are the murderers.

YOU support murder. A-hole.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This brings up a qhole other point most non gun owners don't even know about. Pretti had a round chambered (ready to fire, bypassing the need to rack a round it) In the gun world this is called carrying 'hot' and is extremely dangerous. Because Sigs often misfire. Like it did exactly here.


What the actual F?

Why would anyone carry a pistol any other way?



Because it takes seconds to chamber a round and dangerous to keep one chambered?


Most of those who carry do so with one in the chamber because you may not have "seconds."

Not a scientific poll but 90%-plus do so here https://www.reddit.com/r/CCW/comments/1opxg1f/how_many_of_us_carry_with_one_in_the_chamber/
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the Governor of Oklahoma who is VERY Trumpy. Can’t criticize Trump of course but says he’s getting bad advice (criticizing President Miller?)



It’s never Trump’s fault. Are they saying he isn’t capable of coming up with these ideas on his own or managing his team properly? Interesting.


Grandpa Trump doesn’t have a clue what is going on. It’s nothing but golf, Greenland, and ballrooms in his brain right now.

He doesn’t seem to know the difference between Greenland and Iceland.
Anonymous
The lies are finally catching up to them?
Anonymous
They messed up bad this time. I follow an old classmate on instagram who posts nothing but religious stuff and posted a Charlie Kirk memorial, and she reposted the letter from Pretti’s family. I doubt she will ever be a liberal but cracks are showing. It will matter when Republican primary time comes as well as conservative enthusiasm for the midterms.
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This is RN Alex Pretti, written by a physician who knew him and worked next to him.

For Alex Pretti — From a Physician, For a Nurse

Every physician knows this: we do not save lives alone. We do it arm in arm with nurses. With ICU nurses. With the ones who catch what we miss, who speak up, who stay late, who hold families together when the medicine runs out.

Alex Pretti was that nurse. He chose to serve his country throughout his life, working in the ICU at the VA, serving veterans, serving those who had already given everything. He stood at bedsides where courage is quiet and exhaustion is constant, where nurses don’t get headlines — they get blood on their shoes and families in their arms.

Ask any doctor who worked with him and they will tell you: he protected. He taught. He defended women colleagues. He bought coffee for broken interns. He made the ICU more human. That is what great nurses do. They don’t just carry out orders. They carry the unit.

And then, one last time, he served as a nurse outside the hospital. With a camera in his hand. With his conscience in front of him. He stepped toward someone being harmed — not as a threat, not as a protester looking for chaos, but as a healer responding to suffering: the same reflex that defines this profession. His gun was legally holstered. His hands were occupied filming. His instinct was the same one every ICU nurse knows: see harm, step in, protect.

As physicians, we talk about teams, about trust, about partnership. Alex was the kind of nurse every doctor hopes to have when things go bad: the one who has your back, the one who has the patient’s back, the one who never looks away.

We didn’t just lose a man. We lost a nurse. A protector. A healer. And the hardest truth of all: he spent his life running toward danger for others — and in the end, that is what killed him.

Rest in power, Alex Pretti. Medicine and humanity will feel your absence.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/comments/1qmtrr2/alex_pretti_from_the_perspective_of_those_who/


Garbage chatgpt AI


Yeah, no. Sorry that your narrative about him stinks like Norovirus diarrhea.

Interviews with people on the ground in Minneapolis:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e87reQrChA4 [/youtube]

Support Minnesota. https://www.standwithminnesota.com/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
This is RN Alex Pretti, written by a physician who knew him and worked next to him.

For Alex Pretti — From a Physician, For a Nurse

Every physician knows this: we do not save lives alone. We do it arm in arm with nurses. With ICU nurses. With the ones who catch what we miss, who speak up, who stay late, who hold families together when the medicine runs out.

Alex Pretti was that nurse. He chose to serve his country throughout his life, working in the ICU at the VA, serving veterans, serving those who had already given everything. He stood at bedsides where courage is quiet and exhaustion is constant, where nurses don’t get headlines — they get blood on their shoes and families in their arms.

Ask any doctor who worked with him and they will tell you: he protected. He taught. He defended women colleagues. He bought coffee for broken interns. He made the ICU more human. That is what great nurses do. They don’t just carry out orders. They carry the unit.

And then, one last time, he served as a nurse outside the hospital. With a camera in his hand. With his conscience in front of him. He stepped toward someone being harmed — not as a threat, not as a protester looking for chaos, but as a healer responding to suffering: the same reflex that defines this profession. His gun was legally holstered. His hands were occupied filming. His instinct was the same one every ICU nurse knows: see harm, step in, protect.

As physicians, we talk about teams, about trust, about partnership. Alex was the kind of nurse every doctor hopes to have when things go bad: the one who has your back, the one who has the patient’s back, the one who never looks away.

We didn’t just lose a man. We lost a nurse. A protector. A healer. And the hardest truth of all: he spent his life running toward danger for others — and in the end, that is what killed him.

Rest in power, Alex Pretti. Medicine and humanity will feel your absence.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nursing/comments/1qmtrr2/alex_pretti_from_the_perspective_of_those_who/


Garbage chatgpt AI


Yeah, no. Sorry that your narrative about him stinks like Norovirus diarrhea.

Interviews with people on the ground in Minneapolis:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e87reQrChA4 [/youtube]

Support Minnesota. https://www.standwithminnesota.com/


You disproved nothing.
Anonymous
Pretti allegedly had an Sig P320 - a gun that has a horrible safety issue of letting off shots without a trigger press. It’s a known issue. I wonder if in the process of disarming him a shot from his gun went off and the panic started and shots were directed at him. Not excusing but trying to make sense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Pretti allegedly had an Sig P320 - a gun that has a horrible safety issue of letting off shots without a trigger press. It’s a known issue. I wonder if in the process of disarming him a shot from his gun went off and the panic started and shots were directed at him. Not excusing but trying to make sense.


That is exactly what happened. But the left (who knows nothing about guns) wont accept it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Pretti allegedly had an Sig P320 - a gun that has a horrible safety issue of letting off shots without a trigger press. It’s a known issue. I wonder if in the process of disarming him a shot from his gun went off and the panic started and shots were directed at him. Not excusing but trying to make sense.


In all of the videos nobody seems alarmed until they start shooting at pretti. Also, If that was the case DHS would have said that to help exonerate themselves. The agent with the grey jacket also doesn’t seem to stop running to the car with the gun even after you hear the first shot. None of the witnesses have mentioned an early gunshot either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I cannot help but notice the similarities between the leftist forces arrayed against the current conservative government and the same forces in both the Spanish and Finnish civil wars.

Both civil wars arose from deep political divisions. In Spain, the conflict was between Republicans (leftists) and Nationalists (rightists), while in Finland it was between the Reds (socialists, Marxists, secularists) and Whites (evangelical Lutherans, conservatives). (AI search result)

I find it interesting that we are seeing another flare up between these two groups. Will history repeat? Both wars saw protests in the streets preceding the outbreak of war.


The more interesting question isn’t MAGA Mike and Margie not getting out their guns to fight alongside “the leftists” who told them this would lead to tyranny (because if 1/6)???

What happened to the gadsdens flag, the oaths to the flag, the tough talk?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The reason ICE wear masks is so that they can beat and ultimately murder people in cold blood without consequences. How do you identify the shooter. At this point, they are no better than stickup thugs.


Identified the last one and people are working on this one.

I do get your point, but these guys are crazy if they think that they can murder anonymously.


Do you know how Jonathan E Ross was identified? It wasn’t super sleuthing. Kristi Noem’s said the shooter was dragged and injured in June by an illegal alien. Ross was widely identified in news articles as the June agent. Observers found his home in time to see ICE moving storage boxes and he was leaving in a vehicle from the garage.

So far all I’ve got is yesterday’s shooter was wearing blue jeans and had a “Texas” patch on the back of his vest.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Shooter has fled the state

It’s so that Minnesota doesn’t arrest them for murder.


Did they arrest the other agent that shot someone?




No but there is no statute of limitations.


If they’re wearing masks, I think we’ll need to prosecute everyone working in ICE that day. Leave no man out. Masks shouldn’t save them from prosecution.
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