Taylor's Swift's new album - let's GOOOOO

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Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of ironic that Taylor refers to how Kayla treated Travis as a “pose” but look at how publicly her own relationship with Travis has played out.

Not sure what other outcome there could be with two famous people?

Jay Z and Beyonce dated for 3 years before making a public appearance as a couple. Fans found out they were married months after the tiny ceremony (about 30 people in attendance). The press discovered their marriage license, which is how it leaked to fans. Three years after the marriage she showed pics of her wedding dress during her tour and then six years later she released some video footage of the wedding during another tour. It can be done.

To be fair, Beyoncé‘s wedding was early 2008. Which means they started dating in 2005. The media landscape was totally different. It was easier to hide things. I had a blackberry in 2008 to put it in context.

Fair, the media was different back then. But it’s not like paparazzi disappeared. The difference is how much people feed into it. Some celebs play the game, some don’t. Taylor and Travis clearly don’t mind being seen.

Taylor’s previous boyfriends hated the attention. They felt emasculated by being “Taylor’s boyfriend” and not their own person. Travis is proud to be her boyfriend. That’s a big part of why this one finally works. Travis isn’t insecure.

I agree about Travis; he’s always been pretty open and public in his relationships. But it sounds like you’re suggesting that being private means someone’s insecure, and I don’t think that’s fair. A lot of celebrities choose to keep things low-key simply because they value privacy, not because they’re insecure.

Not at all. I’m a private person. But her exes issues with her fame are openly known. They’ve talked about it. She’s written songs about it.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of ironic that Taylor refers to how Kayla treated Travis as a “pose” but look at how publicly her own relationship with Travis has played out.

Not sure what other outcome there could be with two famous people?

Jay Z and Beyonce dated for 3 years before making a public appearance as a couple. Fans found out they were married months after the tiny ceremony (about 30 people in attendance). The press discovered their marriage license, which is how it leaked to fans. Three years after the marriage she showed pics of her wedding dress during her tour and then six years later she released some video footage of the wedding during another tour. It can be done.

To be fair, Beyoncé‘s wedding was early 2008. Which means they started dating in 2005. The media landscape was totally different. It was easier to hide things. I had a blackberry in 2008 to put it in context.

Fair, the media was different back then. But it’s not like paparazzi disappeared. The difference is how much people feed into it. Some celebs play the game, some don’t. Taylor and Travis clearly don’t mind being seen.

Taylor’s previous boyfriends hated the attention. They felt emasculated by being “Taylor’s boyfriend” and not their own person. Travis is proud to be her boyfriend. That’s a big part of why this one finally works. Travis isn’t insecure.

I agree about Travis; he’s always been pretty open and public in his relationships. But it sounds like you’re suggesting that being private means someone’s insecure, and I don’t think that’s fair. A lot of celebrities choose to keep things low-key simply because they value privacy, not because they’re insecure.

Not at all. I’m a private person. But her exes issues with her fame are openly known. They’ve talked about it. She’s written songs about it.

I think that's fair. It can't be easy being in a relationship with someone mega famous like her. Especially with someone like her who is very public with her relationships and life. In that regard, her and Travis are a good match.

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Anonymous wrote:If you spend time taking and posting about how much you don’t like TS, she wrote a song for you: “Actually Romantic”

Yes, yes, we have all heard this before. Likely put out there by Tree for you all to lap up and repeat.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m not even familiar with half her music. I’d miserably fail any trivia game about her music or her life.

But I know mean girls and bullies when I see them. Healthy, mature adults don’t spend any time talking about, thinking about, or learning about things and people I don’t like or think are awful.

You don’t like her because she sees you too.

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The haters' obsession with her is a classic example of mean girls and bullies. They know every intimate detail of her life (or at least, they think they do) yet they claim they can't stand her. They actually obsessed.

Taylor goes through friends faster than toilet paper.

She wants people to know every intimate detail because she appeared on talk shows daily, shared Instagram posts about her engagement, and has arranged pap walks.

If she wants to hide, she can hide. She chooses not to do that. Plenty of other billionaire celebs can lay low when they want. TS craves the attention and has her PR machine put the stories she wants out there.

I'm not a hater but I don't worship her like you do.

What a leap to assume that people who question your weird, miserable hobby “worship” her.

I never liked metal music growing up. So you know what I did? I didn’t listen to it. I sure as hell didn’t seek out opportunities to tell people how bad I thought was or how much I disliked the artists (whose names and lyrics I also didn’t know btw). THAT’S normal.

Do you think it makes you sound cool? Do you feel superior? What’s missing from your life that you need this?

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The haters know FAR more about her than I ever will. It’s unsettling, to put it mildly.

I kind of love it that the new Swiftie badge of honor is to know nothing about her. Progress!!! AND not all the reviews/articles of her were glowing. Gives me hope that maybe free speech will prevail and the power of internet fandom cults may be waning.

Free speech? Absurd. Free speech is about the government.

You are free to express your opinions online and other people are free to tell you you’re acting weird.

Yes, but, free speech is also about controlling what others are saying. For example, issuing death threats to journalists who write bad reviews (Swifties have done this) and using lawyers to silence critics.

https://www.aclunc.org/news/taylor-swift-attempts-silence-critic-aclu-fires-back

So yes, I do think people backing away from Swift and Swiftie culture shows cracks in the way internet fandoms wield power online. I do also think, this may come from watching Trump’s internet fandom and policies take shape in the real world, not just online.

Gosh, I dunno - accusing someone of being a "white supremacist" (with zero evidence, of course) sure seems like a defamation case to me. Who's intimidating who here?

It was an opinion article on a blog. Taylor’s team, dropped their suit after the aclu got involved. It never stated she was a white supremacist. More that white supremacists are using her songs lyrics to promote their cause and that her promotion of white girl victimhood upholds long standing white power structure.Here is a quote:

“Kanye upstaging Taylor in that moment not only gave that narrative merit in a lot of people’s eyes, it also looked like the personification of many a long-standing white fear: a black man taking away a white woman’s power. And Taylor has been playing off that narrative ever since, while America has embraced the notion of white victimhood —


It is clear her message of being white, pretty, and consequence-free is one that many in America have embraced. And like the quiet support that Trump received to the surprise of polls, Democrats, and the world, Taylor is giving support to the white nationalist movements through lyrics that speak to their anger, entitlement, and selfishness.”

You may not be able to process this and may push it away labeling it bizarre or weird or whatever term you choose to use. But in the America I believe in, that blogger had a right to state her opinion. Taylor and her team tried to scare her into silence.

You epitomize a victim mentality. You - and the blogger, whoever they are - are so far gone there is no rational discourse to be had. It's clear you are eager to hang the many chips on your shoulders on this one entertainer because she has dared to be white and pretty. The nerve!!

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Anonymous wrote:If you spend time taking and posting about how much you don’t like TS, she wrote a song for you: “Actually Romantic”

Yes, yes, we have all heard this before. Likely put out there by Tree for you all to lap up and repeat.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m not even familiar with half her music. I’d miserably fail any trivia game about her music or her life.

But I know mean girls and bullies when I see them. Healthy, mature adults don’t spend any time talking about, thinking about, or learning about things and people I don’t like or think are awful.

You don’t like her because she sees you too.

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The haters' obsession with her is a classic example of mean girls and bullies. They know every intimate detail of her life (or at least, they think they do) yet they claim they can't stand her. They actually obsessed.

Taylor goes through friends faster than toilet paper.

She wants people to know every intimate detail because she appeared on talk shows daily, shared Instagram posts about her engagement, and has arranged pap walks.

If she wants to hide, she can hide. She chooses not to do that. Plenty of other billionaire celebs can lay low when they want. TS craves the attention and has her PR machine put the stories she wants out there.

I'm not a hater but I don't worship her like you do.

What a leap to assume that people who question your weird, miserable hobby “worship” her.

I never liked metal music growing up. So you know what I did? I didn’t listen to it. I sure as hell didn’t seek out opportunities to tell people how bad I thought was or how much I disliked the artists (whose names and lyrics I also didn’t know btw). THAT’S normal.

Do you think it makes you sound cool? Do you feel superior? What’s missing from your life that you need this?

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The haters know FAR more about her than I ever will. It’s unsettling, to put it mildly.

I kind of love it that the new Swiftie badge of honor is to know nothing about her. Progress!!! AND not all the reviews/articles of her were glowing. Gives me hope that maybe free speech will prevail and the power of internet fandom cults may be waning.

Free speech? Absurd. Free speech is about the government.

You are free to express your opinions online and other people are free to tell you you’re acting weird.

Yes, but, free speech is also about controlling what others are saying. For example, issuing death threats to journalists who write bad reviews (Swifties have done this) and using lawyers to silence critics.

https://www.aclunc.org/news/taylor-swift-attempts-silence-critic-aclu-fires-back

So yes, I do think people backing away from Swift and Swiftie culture shows cracks in the way internet fandoms wield power online. I do also think, this may come from watching Trump’s internet fandom and policies take shape in the real world, not just online.

Gosh, I dunno - accusing someone of being a "white supremacist" (with zero evidence, of course) sure seems like a defamation case to me. Who's intimidating who here?

It was an opinion article on a blog. Taylor’s team, dropped their suit after the aclu got involved. It never stated she was a white supremacist. More that white supremacists are using her songs lyrics to promote their cause and that her promotion of white girl victimhood upholds long standing white power structure.Here is a quote:

“Kanye upstaging Taylor in that moment not only gave that narrative merit in a lot of people’s eyes, it also looked like the personification of many a long-standing white fear: a black man taking away a white woman’s power. And Taylor has been playing off that narrative ever since, while America has embraced the notion of white victimhood —


It is clear her message of being white, pretty, and consequence-free is one that many in America have embraced. And like the quiet support that Trump received to the surprise of polls, Democrats, and the world, Taylor is giving support to the white nationalist movements through lyrics that speak to their anger, entitlement, and selfishness.”

You may not be able to process this and may push it away labeling it bizarre or weird or whatever term you choose to use. But in the America I believe in, that blogger had a right to state her opinion. Taylor and her team tried to scare her into silence.

I’m sorry, someone actually thought a deranged bipolar man interrupting a 17-year-old at a music awards ceremony, taking her award and saying someone else should get it, stirred up a primal fear of a black man taking away white women’s power?

I’m so sick of utter morons having hot takes on things.

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Louder for the utter morons in the back.

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Anonymous wrote:“Insiders reveal Taylor Swift has been borrowing melodies

Taylor Swift’s tunes for her album, “The Life of a Showgirl,” seem to be borrowed. According to Rob Shuter’s sources, the Grammy-winner had been borrowing melodies from music composers for her songs. However, Swift has not been taking their work for granted. Reportedly, she has been quietly paying them in return.

Furthermore, insiders also pointed out that Swift’s TS12 album has achieved a whopping profit of $150 million. But it seemed not to be an easy task, as it apparently required a change in strategy. This time, the newly engaged celebrity went all in to get a successful result. Her first move was to block the purchase of individual songs on iTunes.

Due to this, listeners had only one option: to buy the entire album. Thanks to the strategy, Swift’s new record sold four million copies within a week. Once the momentum slowed, the singles became available for purchase. According to the outlet, seven songs from “The Life of a Showgirl” entered iTunes Top 100 in a few hours. “The Fate of Ophelia” topped the charts, followed by “Opalite.”

The report further mentioned Swift’s next plan, which was to introduce the deluxe packages. They included metallic vinyl, glitter vinyl, removable lyric panels, signed inserts, and limited-edition covers. Meanwhile, a label executive commented, saying that the “Cruel Summer” hitmaker was seemingly “monetizing nostalgia and obsession at the same time.”

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/music/articles/taylor-swift-quietly-paying-composers-071032504.html

Why have I been able to listen to any of these songs on Spotify from the moment they were released? I haven't purchased any albums at all. So much nonsense over nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:I am pretty, uh, into and around the Swiftie online universe. Nobody cares about Kayla. If anyone is harassing her it is a very minor subset and probably not actual Swifties.

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The truly unhinged are those who claim to hate her (TS). I've never seen anything like that level of obsession.

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Anonymous wrote:I am pretty, uh, into and around the Swiftie online universe. Nobody cares about Kayla. If anyone is harassing her it is a very minor subset and probably not actual Swifties.

Swifties are obsessed at the fact that Travis only dated black women before Taylor. So it looks suspicious that it takes a famous billionaire to change that preference. I guess everyone has a price.

You have that exactly backwards. Taylor Swift haters are obsessed by the fact that Travis Kelce only dated black women before Taylor. People like you constantly bring it up, as if it somehow matters in any way. I'm sorry it triggers you that his fiancée is white, but you'll get over it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am pretty, uh, into and around the Swiftie online universe. Nobody cares about Kayla. If anyone is harassing her it is a very minor subset and probably not actual Swifties.

Swifties are obsessed at the fact that Travis only dated black women before Taylor. So it looks suspicious that it takes a famous billionaire to change that preference. I guess everyone has a price.

No, black women are obsessed with this. Nobody else cares.

Exactly ^^

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Anonymous wrote:“Insiders reveal Taylor Swift has been borrowing melodies

Taylor Swift’s tunes for her album, “The Life of a Showgirl,” seem to be borrowed. According to Rob Shuter’s sources, the Grammy-winner had been borrowing melodies from music composers for her songs. However, Swift has not been taking their work for granted. Reportedly, she has been quietly paying them in return.

Furthermore, insiders also pointed out that Swift’s TS12 album has achieved a whopping profit of $150 million. But it seemed not to be an easy task, as it apparently required a change in strategy. This time, the newly engaged celebrity went all in to get a successful result. Her first move was to block the purchase of individual songs on iTunes.

Due to this, listeners had only one option: to buy the entire album. Thanks to the strategy, Swift’s new record sold four million copies within a week. Once the momentum slowed, the singles became available for purchase. According to the outlet, seven songs from “The Life of a Showgirl” entered iTunes Top 100 in a few hours. “The Fate of Ophelia” topped the charts, followed by “Opalite.”

The report further mentioned Swift’s next plan, which was to introduce the deluxe packages. They included metallic vinyl, glitter vinyl, removable lyric panels, signed inserts, and limited-edition covers. Meanwhile, a label executive commented, saying that the “Cruel Summer” hitmaker was seemingly “monetizing nostalgia and obsession at the same time.”

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/music/articles/taylor-swift-quietly-paying-composers-071032504.html

In other words, scamming and strong-arming her core fan base. Bleeding them dry like a private equity parasite. Meanwhile, her fans will jump on every thread on every forum defending and rationalizing her predatory greed. It's like they suffer from BWS.

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Anonymous wrote:I am pretty, uh, into and around the Swiftie online universe. Nobody cares about Kayla. If anyone is harassing her it is a very minor subset and probably not actual Swifties.

Did Taylor include a “diss” of Travis’ ex in her song? (Genuinely asking, I like Taylor’s music but am not familiar enough with her / her history / her lyrics to know the answer to this)

No. In a song about finding each other and the path to get to the happy place they are right now, she had one line about that relationship. It’s wasn’t a “diss” at all.

Why even mention your boyfriend’s ex that he dated years ago. Screams insecurity and gives the ex more undeserved attention.

Read the lyrics. She also talks about how her brother said she was eating out of the trash.

Jesus. That referred to her habit of revisiting "lovers past" - HER lovers, not his. Are you the PP who mentioned "screams insecurity"?? Because you epitomize it.
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Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of ironic that Taylor refers to how Kayla treated Travis as a “pose” but look at how publicly her own relationship with Travis has played out.

Not sure what other outcome there could be with two famous people?

Also, isn't this always the concern in a lopsided relationship where the famous one worries that the less famous one is using them or taking advantage? Or complaining that one person was always in their phone? That seems to be pretty common and relatable even for non famous couples.

And the point of the line was that she wasn’t as into him as he wanted. He felt like depth and real love was missing. Since she broke up with him, this seems like a fair take.

Sure, she broke up with him the last time, but they were on and off a lot during their 5 year relationship. And neither of them have said the reason they broke up, though they have both denied the numerous rumors about why they broke up.

DP. I hate to break this to you, but NO ONE CARES about his previous relationship(s). It's beyond bizarre how much you insist on making this a thing when it's not. Her one line in that song was not a "diss," it was simply a fact.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it kind of ironic that Taylor refers to how Kayla treated Travis as a “pose” but look at how publicly her own relationship with Travis has played out.

Not sure what other outcome there could be with two famous people?

Also, isn't this always the concern in a lopsided relationship where the famous one worries that the less famous one is using them or taking advantage? Or complaining that one person was always in their phone? That seems to be pretty common and relatable even for non famous couples.

And the point of the line was that she wasn’t as into him as he wanted. He felt like depth and real love was missing. Since she broke up with him, this seems like a fair take.

Sure, she broke up with him the last time, but they were on and off a lot during their 5 year relationship. And neither of them have said the reason they broke up, though they have both denied the numerous rumors about why they broke up.

DP. I hate to break this to you, but NO ONE CARES about his previous relationship(s). It's beyond bizarre how much you insist on making this a thing when it's not. Her one line in that song was not a "diss," it was simply a fact.

Then why even bring it up?

Only Swifties actually believe the relationship is real.

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Anonymous wrote:If you spend time taking and posting about how much you don’t like TS, she wrote a song for you: “Actually Romantic”

Yes, yes, we have all heard this before. Likely put out there by Tree for you all to lap up and repeat.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m not even familiar with half her music. I’d miserably fail any trivia game about her music or her life.

But I know mean girls and bullies when I see them. Healthy, mature adults don’t spend any time talking about, thinking about, or learning about things and people I don’t like or think are awful.

You don’t like her because she sees you too.

+1
The haters' obsession with her is a classic example of mean girls and bullies. They know every intimate detail of her life (or at least, they think they do) yet they claim they can't stand her. They actually obsessed.

Taylor goes through friends faster than toilet paper.

She wants people to know every intimate detail because she appeared on talk shows daily, shared Instagram posts about her engagement, and has arranged pap walks.

If she wants to hide, she can hide. She chooses not to do that. Plenty of other billionaire celebs can lay low when they want. TS craves the attention and has her PR machine put the stories she wants out there.

I'm not a hater but I don't worship her like you do.

What a leap to assume that people who question your weird, miserable hobby “worship” her.

I never liked metal music growing up. So you know what I did? I didn’t listen to it. I sure as hell didn’t seek out opportunities to tell people how bad I thought was or how much I disliked the artists (whose names and lyrics I also didn’t know btw). THAT’S normal.

Do you think it makes you sound cool? Do you feel superior? What’s missing from your life that you need this?

+100
The haters know FAR more about her than I ever will. It’s unsettling, to put it mildly.

I kind of love it that the new Swiftie badge of honor is to know nothing about her. Progress!!! AND not all the reviews/articles of her were glowing. Gives me hope that maybe free speech will prevail and the power of internet fandom cults may be waning.

Free speech? Absurd. Free speech is about the government.

You are free to express your opinions online and other people are free to tell you you’re acting weird.

Yes, but, free speech is also about controlling what others are saying. For example, issuing death threats to journalists who write bad reviews (Swifties have done this) and using lawyers to silence critics.

https://www.aclunc.org/news/taylor-swift-attempts-silence-critic-aclu-fires-back

So yes, I do think people backing away from Swift and Swiftie culture shows cracks in the way internet fandoms wield power online. I do also think, this may come from watching Trump’s internet fandom and policies take shape in the real world, not just online.

Gosh, I dunno - accusing someone of being a "white supremacist" (with zero evidence, of course) sure seems like a defamation case to me. Who's intimidating who here?

It was an opinion article on a blog. Taylor’s team, dropped their suit after the aclu got involved. It never stated she was a white supremacist. More that white supremacists are using her songs lyrics to promote their cause and that her promotion of white girl victimhood upholds long standing white power structure.Here is a quote:

“Kanye upstaging Taylor in that moment not only gave that narrative merit in a lot of people’s eyes, it also looked like the personification of many a long-standing white fear: a black man taking away a white woman’s power. And Taylor has been playing off that narrative ever since, while America has embraced the notion of white victimhood —


It is clear her message of being white, pretty, and consequence-free is one that many in America have embraced. And like the quiet support that Trump received to the surprise of polls, Democrats, and the world, Taylor is giving support to the white nationalist movements through lyrics that speak to their anger, entitlement, and selfishness.”

You may not be able to process this and may push it away labeling it bizarre or weird or whatever term you choose to use. But in the America I believe in, that blogger had a right to state her opinion. Taylor and her team tried to scare her into silence.

I’m sorry, someone actually thought a deranged bipolar man interrupting a 17-year-old at a music awards ceremony, taking her award and saying someone else should get it, stirred up a primal fear of a black man taking away white women’s power?

I’m so sick of utter morons having hot takes on things.

+ a million
Louder for the utter morons in the back.

You don’t have to agree with the ideas. I posted the blog and think it is a looong stretch by the author.

That said, that “moron” author still has a right to say those things without receiving threats.

Just as reporters have a right to give a bad review of Taylor without their families receiving death threats.

You are falling for the oldest trick in the book and having a knee jerk reaction to the blog.

Being a billionaire should not make you impervious to criticism.

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Anonymous wrote:If you spend time taking and posting about how much you don’t like TS, she wrote a song for you: “Actually Romantic”

Yes, yes, we have all heard this before. Likely put out there by Tree for you all to lap up and repeat.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m not even familiar with half her music. I’d miserably fail any trivia game about her music or her life.

But I know mean girls and bullies when I see them. Healthy, mature adults don’t spend any time talking about, thinking about, or learning about things and people I don’t like or think are awful.

You don’t like her because she sees you too.

+1
The haters' obsession with her is a classic example of mean girls and bullies. They know every intimate detail of her life (or at least, they think they do) yet they claim they can't stand her. They actually obsessed.

Taylor goes through friends faster than toilet paper.

She wants people to know every intimate detail because she appeared on talk shows daily, shared Instagram posts about her engagement, and has arranged pap walks.

If she wants to hide, she can hide. She chooses not to do that. Plenty of other billionaire celebs can lay low when they want. TS craves the attention and has her PR machine put the stories she wants out there.

I'm not a hater but I don't worship her like you do.

What a leap to assume that people who question your weird, miserable hobby “worship” her.

I never liked metal music growing up. So you know what I did? I didn’t listen to it. I sure as hell didn’t seek out opportunities to tell people how bad I thought was or how much I disliked the artists (whose names and lyrics I also didn’t know btw). THAT’S normal.

Do you think it makes you sound cool? Do you feel superior? What’s missing from your life that you need this?

+100
The haters know FAR more about her than I ever will. It’s unsettling, to put it mildly.

I kind of love it that the new Swiftie badge of honor is to know nothing about her. Progress!!! AND not all the reviews/articles of her were glowing. Gives me hope that maybe free speech will prevail and the power of internet fandom cults may be waning.

Free speech? Absurd. Free speech is about the government.

You are free to express your opinions online and other people are free to tell you you’re acting weird.

Yes, but, free speech is also about controlling what others are saying. For example, issuing death threats to journalists who write bad reviews (Swifties have done this) and using lawyers to silence critics.

https://www.aclunc.org/news/taylor-swift-attempts-silence-critic-aclu-fires-back

So yes, I do think people backing away from Swift and Swiftie culture shows cracks in the way internet fandoms wield power online. I do also think, this may come from watching Trump’s internet fandom and policies take shape in the real world, not just online.

Gosh, I dunno - accusing someone of being a "white supremacist" (with zero evidence, of course) sure seems like a defamation case to me. Who's intimidating who here?

It was an opinion article on a blog. Taylor’s team, dropped their suit after the aclu got involved. It never stated she was a white supremacist. More that white supremacists are using her songs lyrics to promote their cause and that her promotion of white girl victimhood upholds long standing white power structure.Here is a quote:

“Kanye upstaging Taylor in that moment not only gave that narrative merit in a lot of people’s eyes, it also looked like the personification of many a long-standing white fear: a black man taking away a white woman’s power. And Taylor has been playing off that narrative ever since, while America has embraced the notion of white victimhood —


It is clear her message of being white, pretty, and consequence-free is one that many in America have embraced. And like the quiet support that Trump received to the surprise of polls, Democrats, and the world, Taylor is giving support to the white nationalist movements through lyrics that speak to their anger, entitlement, and selfishness.”

You may not be able to process this and may push it away labeling it bizarre or weird or whatever term you choose to use. But in the America I believe in, that blogger had a right to state her opinion. Taylor and her team tried to scare her into silence.

I’m sorry, someone actually thought a deranged bipolar man interrupting a 17-year-old at a music awards ceremony, taking her award and saying someone else should get it, stirred up a primal fear of a black man taking away white women’s power?

I’m so sick of utter morons having hot takes on things.

+ a million
Louder for the utter morons in the back.

You don’t have to agree with the ideas. I posted the blog and think it is a looong stretch by the author.

That said, that “moron” author still has a right to say those things without receiving threats.

Just as reporters have a right to give a bad review of Taylor without their families receiving death threats.

You are falling for the oldest trick in the book and having a knee jerk reaction to the blog.

Being a billionaire should not make you impervious to criticism.

DP. Criticism is fine. Saying white women fear black men because Kanye is an idiot is not criticism. It’s just silly and racist. It also has nothing to do with Taylor Swift.

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This thread, argh. Rehashing the same arguments again and again.