Boundary Review Meetings

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Anonymous wrote:Edison general education enrollment for 2024-25 was 2,111.

West Springfield general education enrollment was 2,528.

Lewis was 1,474 students, despite being boarded on both sides by huge student populations.

Even Mount Vernon, which is another under-populated school, had 1,618.

Why would the school board peel off additional students from Lewis?

It's not just AP versus IB. The school is starting to become too small to keep its sports teams fully populated, to have enough kids go into its music and drama programs. It doesn't have the depth of student population to feed into its programs. Which starts to create a spiral of people transfering out of the school, which makes the school smaller, which leads to fewer kids to go into programs, and more kids transferring out.

If the school board wants to close Lewis, the surrounding neighborhoods need to be prepared to take in an influx of students.

Blame the school board and use your vote wisely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Points of interest from last night's meeting:
1 - Reid indicated maps for KAA would be out the end of October
2 - Transportation for grandfathered students would be voted on in December.
3 - They relied very heavily on the feedback from scenario 3 and the BRAC to make adjustments to create this new scenario 4. So places where they had attempted to eliminate an island or a split feeder got feedback that basically said "we're happy where we are, don't move us" so they reverted back to the split feeder/island.
4 - When you attend the meeting for your pyramid, you will get details on the numbers of students shifting at each level.

Dr. Reid - Said she expected "Drafty Drafts' of the maps to be shared with the public before the scheduled open house at KAA on 10/25. There's a School Board meeting on 10/23 which I expect is when they will be shared.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People are locked in on the number of homes for whatever reason. Only seems to be Lewis parents.

There are WAY more than 20 high school students living in those 282 Lewis townhomes getting rezoned to WSHS.

It is probably closer to 50 high school students. Maybe more. Maybe less.

There are around 8-9 students per grade at the elementary level from that neighborhood getting rezoned to WSHS from Lewis, approximately 60 elementary students total.

FCPS is estimating 20 students, which is roughly 3 students per grade.

This means the number of students who will attend WSHS from that neighborhood is at least triple the FCPS estimates.

Once that RV neighborhood is zoned for WSHS, that number will skyrocket. It will probably end up bringing in more students than FCPS is removing from Sangster.

Here we go again. Broken record. Speculation. Wrong info. Please stop.

It is not speculating.

Other than the math correction of double from triple, this post is correct and you know it.

It completely discounts and ignores the number of homes and students lost to LBSS and only focuses on the gains - which are offset by a great number resulting in a big net loss of both homes and students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Edison general education enrollment for 2024-25 was 2,111.

West Springfield general education enrollment was 2,528.

Lewis was 1,474 students, despite being boarded on both sides by huge student populations.

Even Mount Vernon, which is another under-populated school, had 1,618.

Why would the school board peel off additional students from Lewis?

It's not just AP versus IB. The school is starting to become too small to keep its sports teams fully populated, to have enough kids go into its music and drama programs. It doesn't have the depth of student population to feed into its programs. Which starts to create a spiral of people transfering out of the school, which makes the school smaller, which leads to fewer kids to go into programs, and more kids transferring out.

If the school board wants to close Lewis, the surrounding neighborhoods need to be prepared to take in an influx of students.

There is some development going on in the area. Granted the development that is almost done seems to be more of the apartment category that won’t attract a lot of students, but it will still be some. The old buildings around the area of Old Keene Mill and Backlick are supposed to be torn down and housing put in there as well. And there is development happening in the parts of Alexandria zoned for Edison - granted moving some kids out of Edison to Annandale maybe takes care of this, for now, but I wouldn’t be surprised if borders have to shift in that area eventually since Edison is in such a bad physical location and can’t really expand to take more students. Maybe they think that the development in Springfield will draw kids to the schools eventually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Edison general education enrollment for 2024-25 was 2,111.

West Springfield general education enrollment was 2,528.

Lewis was 1,474 students, despite being boarded on both sides by huge student populations.

Even Mount Vernon, which is another under-populated school, had 1,618.

Why would the school board peel off additional students from Lewis?

It's not just AP versus IB. The school is starting to become too small to keep its sports teams fully populated, to have enough kids go into its music and drama programs. It doesn't have the depth of student population to feed into its programs. Which starts to create a spiral of people transfering out of the school, which makes the school smaller, which leads to fewer kids to go into programs, and more kids transferring out.

If the school board wants to close Lewis, the surrounding neighborhoods need to be prepared to take in an influx of students.

Lewis has almost 300 students transferring to other schools.

How many of that 300 are from that Rolling Valley neighborhood getting rezoned to WSHS?

Dozens?

A hundred?

It will NOT be "just 20 students" added to WSHS from that neighborhood.

FCPS needs to release the number of Lewis students living in that neighborhood who currently pupil place to other schools.

That transfer number was overlooked when Daventry was moved to WSHS from Lewis, which resulted in the actual number of new WSHS students being many times more the "fewer than 20" students used to justify the rezoning.

The number of high school students in that neighborhood who will switch to WSHS far exceeds the 20 students currently attending Lewis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People are locked in on the number of homes for whatever reason. Only seems to be Lewis parents.

There are WAY more than 20 high school students living in those 282 Lewis townhomes getting rezoned to WSHS.

It is probably closer to 50 high school students. Maybe more. Maybe less.

There are around 8-9 students per grade at the elementary level from that neighborhood getting rezoned to WSHS from Lewis, approximately 60 elementary students total.

FCPS is estimating 20 students, which is roughly 3 students per grade.

This means the number of students who will attend WSHS from that neighborhood is at least triple the FCPS estimates.

Once that RV neighborhood is zoned for WSHS, that number will skyrocket. It will probably end up bringing in more students than FCPS is removing from Sangster.

Here we go again. Broken record. Speculation. Wrong info. Please stop.

It is not speculating.

Other than the math correction of double from triple, this post is correct and you know it.

It completely discounts and ignores the number of homes and students lost to LBSS and only focuses on the gains - which are offset by a great number resulting in a big net loss of both homes and students.

There are far more than 20 lewis zoned high school students in that RV neighborhood.

FCPS is not counting all the lewis zoned students from that neighborhood who are pupil placing to other high schools, who will switch to WSHS in 2026.

The number is substantial.

Moving any neighborhood into WSHS will negate any enrollment increase by moving Sangster to LB.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People are locked in on the number of homes for whatever reason. Only seems to be Lewis parents.

There are WAY more than 20 high school students living in those 282 Lewis townhomes getting rezoned to WSHS.

It is probably closer to 50 high school students. Maybe more. Maybe less.

There are around 8-9 students per grade at the elementary level from that neighborhood getting rezoned to WSHS from Lewis, approximately 60 elementary students total.

FCPS is estimating 20 students, which is roughly 3 students per grade.

This means the number of students who will attend WSHS from that neighborhood is at least triple the FCPS estimates.

Once that RV neighborhood is zoned for WSHS, that number will skyrocket. It will probably end up bringing in more students than FCPS is removing from Sangster.

Here we go again. Broken record. Speculation. Wrong info. Please stop.

It is not speculating.

Other than the math correction of double from triple, this post is correct and you know it.

It completely discounts and ignores the number of homes and students lost to LBSS and only focuses on the gains - which are offset by a great number resulting in a big net loss of both homes and students.

There are far more than 20 lewis zoned high school students in that RV neighborhood.

FCPS is not counting all the lewis zoned students from that neighborhood who are pupil placing to other high schools, who will switch to WSHS in 2026.

The number is substantial.

Moving any neighborhood into WSHS will negate any enrollment increase by moving Sangster to LB.

Spouting opinions as facts. Just stop it.

[Anonymous]

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I doubt the whole Oak Hill would go to KAA. But maybe Emerald Chase goes to South Lakes and the rest of Oak Hill go to KAA.

Remember currently Emerald Chase kids (and Bradley Farm kids south of West Ox) go to Westfield. Moving them to KAA won’t give relief to Chantilly.

I don't take it for granted that Thru and the school board will do what makes sense, but what makes sense is to send Emerald Chase to KAA with the rest of Oak Hill in order to keep pyramids aligned (and, assuming the Franklin Middle School kids get redistricted for Carson, to eliminate a split feeder).

I agree. The school board has an opportunity to build an actual school pyramid with no split feeders with just making a few changes. I hope they don’t find a way to screw that up.

It is going to be very difficult to do that. Franklin and Carson are about 1.5 miles from each other.
They could send the Westfield kids who go to Franklin to Rocky Run. Then, they could make Franklin a Chantilly/Oakton split.
Carson could be South Lakes/KAA.

A lot depends on who they send to KAA. They need to determine that before switching middle schools.

Unless a student is AAP at Rocky Run (Bull Run to Westfields, Colin Powell to Centreville), the entirety of the school goes to Chantilly. As many on this board has been delighted to point out, the AAP MS placement is coming to an end as AAP is rolled out at all MS. Turning Rocky Run into a split feeder between Chantilly and Westfield doesn't make sense a lot of sense versus keeping the spolit only at Franklin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People are locked in on the number of homes for whatever reason. Only seems to be Lewis parents.

There are WAY more than 20 high school students living in those 282 Lewis townhomes getting rezoned to WSHS.

It is probably closer to 50 high school students. Maybe more. Maybe less.

There are around 8-9 students per grade at the elementary level from that neighborhood getting rezoned to WSHS from Lewis, approximately 60 elementary students total.

FCPS is estimating 20 students, which is roughly 3 students per grade.

This means the number of students who will attend WSHS from that neighborhood is at least triple the FCPS estimates.

Once that RV neighborhood is zoned for WSHS, that number will skyrocket. It will probably end up bringing in more students than FCPS is removing from Sangster.

Here we go again. Broken record. Speculation. Wrong info. Please stop.

It is not speculating.

Other than the math correction of double from triple, this post is correct and you know it.

It completely discounts and ignores the number of homes and students lost to LBSS and only focuses on the gains - which are offset by a great number resulting in a big net loss of both homes and students.

There are far more than 20 lewis zoned high school students in that RV neighborhood.

FCPS is not counting all the lewis zoned students from that neighborhood who are pupil placing to other high schools, who will switch to WSHS in 2026.

The number is substantial.

Moving any neighborhood into WSHS will negate any enrollment increase by moving Sangster to LB.

Look, we realize that you are thrilled that you managed to increase your property value by 20% overnight, but get real.

There are around 8 to 9 elementary kids per grade living in that Lewis neighborhood attending Rolling Valley.

At the minimum, the number of high school kids living in that Lewis neighborhood is double the projection of fewer than 20 students that FCPS is using to justify rezoning them.

FCPS needs to do a count of how many kids from that Lewis neighborhood, likely dozens, who are zoned for Lewis but attending other schools due to pupil placement options like Lake Braddock for AP and Edison for academy classes.

The number of high school students in that Lewis neighborhood is much higher than 20.

Rezone them or not, but use accurate numbers and make the numbers public.

Using fake numbers impacts every kid at WSHS, including the WSHS Sangster students.

Spouting opinions as facts. Just stop it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are locked in on the number of homes for whatever reason. Only seems to be Lewis parents.

There are WAY more than 20 high school students living in those 282 Lewis townhomes getting rezoned to WSHS.

It is probably closer to 50 high school students. Maybe more. Maybe less.

There are around 8-9 students per grade at the elementary level from that neighborhood getting rezoned to WSHS from Lewis, approximately 60 elementary students total.

FCPS is estimating 20 students, which is roughly 3 students per grade.

This means the number of students who will attend WSHS from that neighborhood is at least triple the FCPS estimates.

Once that RV neighborhood is zoned for WSHS, that number will skyrocket. It will probably end up bringing in more students than FCPS is removing from Sangster.

Here we go again. Broken record. Speculation. Wrong info. Please stop.

It is not speculating.

Other than the math correction of double from triple, this post is correct and you know it.

It completely discounts and ignores the number of homes and students lost to LBSS and only focuses on the gains - which are offset by a great number resulting in a big net loss of both homes and students.

There are far more than 20 lewis zoned high school students in that RV neighborhood.

FCPS is not counting all the lewis zoned students from that neighborhood who are pupil placing to other high schools, who will switch to WSHS in 2026.

The number is substantial.

Moving any neighborhood into WSHS will negate any enrollment increase by moving Sangster to LB.

Spouting opinions as facts. Just stop it.

Look, we realize that you are thrilled that you managed to increase your property value by 20% overnight, but get real.

There are around 8 to 9 elementary kids per grade living in that Lewis neighborhood attending Rolling Valley.

At the minimum, the number of high school kids living in that Lewis neighborhood is double the projection of fewer than 20 students that FCPS is using to justify rezoning them.

FCPS needs to do a count of how many kids from that Lewis neighborhood, likely dozens, who are zoned for Lewis but attending other schools due to pupil placement options like Lake Braddock for AP and Edison for academy classes.

The number of high school students in that Lewis neighborhood is much higher than 20.

Rezone them or not, but use accurate numbers and make the numbers public.

Using fake numbers impacts every kid at WSHS, including the WSHS Sangster students.

[Anonymous]

I just emailed my school board rep and asked for an explanation on how Lewis is going to be fixed. I agree they are leaving Lewis behind. Absolutely disgusting how this school is treated.

[Anonymous]

I thought one of the goals was to help create more equity between the schools from an SES perspective? Ignoring Lewis problems seems to be the opposite. Equity is just a slogan?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just emailed my school board rep and asked for an explanation on how Lewis is going to be fixed. I agree they are leaving Lewis behind. Absolutely disgusting how this school is treated.

Ooh, oooh, pick me!

A good start is to close transfers out and have parents in the community step up more and start engaging with the school rather than just hoping to drag other families into the school so that those other parents can put in the elbow grease.

Be the change you want to see in the world.

[Anonymous]

Reading some of these comments sounds like there are school board members being ‘anonymous’ trying to defend rationale for pushing this redoing of boundaries. Telling WSHS families to ‘just stop’ when the data shows kids moving from Lewis to WSHS when there is an overcrowding issue makes no sense and moving Sangster kids to LB for really no reason.

I bet too that if WSHS parents had a vote they’d rather the kids being moved in scenario 4 than taking in the Lewis kids—prove me wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People are locked in on the number of homes for whatever reason. Only seems to be Lewis parents.

There are WAY more than 20 high school students living in those 282 Lewis townhomes getting rezoned to WSHS.

It is probably closer to 50 high school students. Maybe more. Maybe less.

There are around 8-9 students per grade at the elementary level from that neighborhood getting rezoned to WSHS from Lewis, approximately 60 elementary students total.

FCPS is estimating 20 students, which is roughly 3 students per grade.

This means the number of students who will attend WSHS from that neighborhood is at least triple the FCPS estimates.

Once that RV neighborhood is zoned for WSHS, that number will skyrocket. It will probably end up bringing in more students than FCPS is removing from Sangster.

Here we go again. Broken record. Speculation. Wrong info. Please stop.

It is not speculating.

Other than the math correction of double from triple, this post is correct and you know it.

It completely discounts and ignores the number of homes and students lost to LBSS and only focuses on the gains - which are offset by a great number resulting in a big net loss of both homes and students.

There are far more than 20 lewis zoned high school students in that RV neighborhood.

FCPS is not counting all the lewis zoned students from that neighborhood who are pupil placing to other high schools, who will switch to WSHS in 2026.

The number is substantial.

Moving any neighborhood into WSHS will negate any enrollment increase by moving Sangster to LB.

Spouting opinions as facts. Just stop it.

Look, we realize that you are thrilled that you managed to increase your property value by 20% overnight, but get real.

There are around 8 to 9 elementary kids per grade living in that Lewis neighborhood attending Rolling Valley.

At the minimum, the number of high school kids living in that Lewis neighborhood is double the projection of fewer than 20 students that FCPS is using to justify rezoning them.

FCPS needs to do a count of how many kids from that Lewis neighborhood, likely dozens, who are zoned for Lewis but attending other schools due to pupil placement options like Lake Braddock for AP and Edison for academy classes.

The number of high school students in that Lewis neighborhood is much higher than 20.

Rezone them or not, but use accurate numbers and make the numbers public.

Using fake numbers impacts every kid at WSHS, including the WSHS Sangster students.

I’m not from those townhomes. No impact either way to my property value or kids. I was and still am zoned for WSHS.

I just don’t want misinformation tossed out there like it’s fact. Or you can go to the meeting and say the same stats and numbers, look dumb, and invalidate your points. Up to you.

I do agree Lewis is a disaster. And I’m shocked the fcps board and thru were smart enough to not send other kids there in a stupid attempt to raise averages etc. I don’t know the answer to fix Lewis if it’s even fixable.