Tj teachers - Be prepared!

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^ 2.5 hours a day.

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Anonymous wrote:^ 2.5 hours a day.

So their kid DESERVES As!!!! Because in this world, it should be raw talent over doing homework, ahhmmm, prep.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the folks cheering because their kids got in without “prepping” (aka working for it) are going to feel when they discover that their kids are signed up for 90 hour workweeks? I suppose they will argue their kids should get a TJ degree based on their “innate talent”. And then will move on to college admissions by “innate talent,” etc.

I wonder at what point they will expect their kids to work hard at something?

Genuinely talented kids do not have 90 hour workweeks at TJ. They come home, probably do about 2 hours of homework each night, and take a chunk of one of the two weekend days (4-5 hours) to get stuff done/get ahead for the week.

These kids have the ability to succeed in diverse extracurricular pursuits (athletics/arts/creatives) above and beyond just STEM, and it's no accident that those are the kids who tend to get into elite colleges.

I am sorry if this bursts your bubble with respect to your own kid, but it's the truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the folks cheering because their kids got in without “prepping” (aka working for it) are going to feel when they discover that their kids are signed up for 90 hour workweeks? I suppose they will argue their kids should get a TJ degree based on their “innate talent”. And then will move on to college admissions by “innate talent,” etc.

I wonder at what point they will expect their kids to work hard at something?

Genuinely talented kids do not have 90 hour workweeks at TJ. They come home, probably do about 2 hours of homework each night, and take a chunk of one of the two weekend days (4-5 hours) to get stuff done/get ahead for the week.

These kids have the ability to succeed in diverse extracurricular pursuits (athletics/arts/creatives) above and beyond just STEM, and it's no accident that those are the kids who tend to get into elite colleges.

I am sorry if this bursts your bubble with respect to your own kid, but it's the truth.

+1000. You can draw a direct line between the kids who did extensive TJ prep and the kids who require a million hours to get through the TJ workload.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the folks cheering because their kids got in without “prepping” (aka working for it) are going to feel when they discover that their kids are signed up for 90 hour workweeks? I suppose they will argue their kids should get a TJ degree based on their “innate talent”. And then will move on to college admissions by “innate talent,” etc.

I wonder at what point they will expect their kids to work hard at something?

Genuinely talented kids do not have 90 hour workweeks at TJ. They come home, probably do about 2 hours of homework each night, and take a chunk of one of the two weekend days (4-5 hours) to get stuff done/get ahead for the week.

These kids have the ability to succeed in diverse extracurricular pursuits (athletics/arts/creatives) above and beyond just STEM, and it's no accident that those are the kids who tend to get into elite colleges.

I am sorry if this bursts your bubble with respect to your own kid, but it's the truth.

+1000. You can draw a direct line between the kids who did extensive TJ prep and the kids who require a million hours to get through the TJ workload.

The primary reason for 4-5 hours of sleep is due to ECs such as band, orchestra, academic teams, volunteering, bigsib, research in addition to the usual homework, papers, presentations, tests, quizzes etc. Pp got it backwards.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the folks cheering because their kids got in without “prepping” (aka working for it) are going to feel when they discover that their kids are signed up for 90 hour workweeks? I suppose they will argue their kids should get a TJ degree based on their “innate talent”. And then will move on to college admissions by “innate talent,” etc.

I wonder at what point they will expect their kids to work hard at something?

Genuinely talented kids do not have 90 hour workweeks at TJ. They come home, probably do about 2 hours of homework each night, and take a chunk of one of the two weekend days (4-5 hours) to get stuff done/get ahead for the week.

These kids have the ability to succeed in diverse extracurricular pursuits (athletics/arts/creatives) above and beyond just STEM, and it's no accident that those are the kids who tend to get into elite colleges.

I am sorry if this bursts your bubble with respect to your own kid, but it's the truth.

+1000. You can draw a direct line between the kids who did extensive TJ prep and the kids who require a million hours to get through the TJ workload.

The primary reason for 4-5 hours of sleep is due to ECs such as band, orchestra, academic teams, volunteering, bigsib, research in addition to the usual homework, papers, presentations, tests, quizzes etc. Pp got it backwards.

Not if you have the time management skills and talent to handle it all. Sure, for every TJ student there will be the occasional night of 4-5 hours of sleep, but it shouldn't be the norm if your child is a) talented enough to handle the work and b) pursuing ECs that they're genuinely passionate about and not overloading themselves needlessly.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the folks cheering because their kids got in without “prepping” (aka working for it) are going to feel when they discover that their kids are signed up for 90 hour workweeks? I suppose they will argue their kids should get a TJ degree based on their “innate talent”. And then will move on to college admissions by “innate talent,” etc.

I wonder at what point they will expect their kids to work hard at something?

Genuinely talented kids do not have 90 hour workweeks at TJ. They come home, probably do about 2 hours of homework each night, and take a chunk of one of the two weekend days (4-5 hours) to get stuff done/get ahead for the week.

These kids have the ability to succeed in diverse extracurricular pursuits (athletics/arts/creatives) above and beyond just STEM, and it's no accident that those are the kids who tend to get into elite colleges.

I am sorry if this bursts your bubble with respect to your own kid, but it's the truth.

+1000. You can draw a direct line between the kids who did extensive TJ prep and the kids who require a million hours to get through the TJ workload.

The primary reason for 4-5 hours of sleep is due to ECs such as band, orchestra, academic teams, volunteering, bigsib, research in addition to the usual homework, papers, presentations, tests, quizzes etc. Pp got it backwards.

Not if you have the time management skills and talent to handle it all. Sure, for every TJ student there will be the occasional night of 4-5 hours of sleep, but it shouldn't be the norm if your child is a) talented enough to handle the work and b) pursuing ECs that they're genuinely passionate about and not overloading themselves needlessly.

So, I guess your kid cruised to all As of A+s for 4 years while handling several academic teams, volunteering, mentoring and researching and getting 8 hours of sleep each night?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the folks cheering because their kids got in without “prepping” (aka working for it) are going to feel when they discover that their kids are signed up for 90 hour workweeks? I suppose they will argue their kids should get a TJ degree based on their “innate talent”. And then will move on to college admissions by “innate talent,” etc.

I wonder at what point they will expect their kids to work hard at something?

Genuinely talented kids do not have 90 hour workweeks at TJ. They come home, probably do about 2 hours of homework each night, and take a chunk of one of the two weekend days (4-5 hours) to get stuff done/get ahead for the week.

These kids have the ability to succeed in diverse extracurricular pursuits (athletics/arts/creatives) above and beyond just STEM, and it's no accident that those are the kids who tend to get into elite colleges.

I am sorry if this bursts your bubble with respect to your own kid, but it's the truth.

+1000. You can draw a direct line between the kids who did extensive TJ prep and the kids who require a million hours to get through the TJ workload.

My kids prep: took the practice test off the website.

My kid’s reality: some weeks leaving at 7am to commute and getting home from band or drama at 7:30-8:30 (with a parent off the grid 1-2 night a week to run the evening caropol) Eating and setting in at 9 for 3-4 hours of homework. Most weekends marching or doing drama at least one day. The other day on homework. When you add commute, plus school, plus ECs, plus homework, you get to 80-90 hours a week fast. Most weeks, my kids had 40 in class, plus 12 commuting, plus 20-25 hours of homework (3 a night, plus most of a weekend day) plus 12-30+ between marching band and drama. Until junior year, when the homework load increased significantly.

This was very much in line with most kids I knew. Except the kids in crew, who put in even more time. And before my kid accepted the offer, we sketched out what his day and week would look like.

It’s not 90 hours of homework a week. But each of your 7 junior classes will expect 3-4. Plus an longer school day. Plus commute time. Plus ECs being so time intensive because TJ kids are expected to be the best at everything. And that’s 90 hours.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the folks cheering because their kids got in without “prepping” (aka working for it) are going to feel when they discover that their kids are signed up for 90 hour workweeks? I suppose they will argue their kids should get a TJ degree based on their “innate talent”. And then will move on to college admissions by “innate talent,” etc.

I wonder at what point they will expect their kids to work hard at something?

Genuinely talented kids do not have 90 hour workweeks at TJ. They come home, probably do about 2 hours of homework each night, and take a chunk of one of the two weekend days (4-5 hours) to get stuff done/get ahead for the week.

These kids have the ability to succeed in diverse extracurricular pursuits (athletics/arts/creatives) above and beyond just STEM, and it's no accident that those are the kids who tend to get into elite colleges.

I am sorry if this bursts your bubble with respect to your own kid, but it's the truth.

+1000. You can draw a direct line between the kids who did extensive TJ prep and the kids who require a million hours to get through the TJ workload.

The primary reason for 4-5 hours of sleep is due to ECs such as band, orchestra, academic teams, volunteering, bigsib, research in addition to the usual homework, papers, presentations, tests, quizzes etc. Pp got it backwards.

Not if you have the time management skills and talent to handle it all. Sure, for every TJ student there will be the occasional night of 4-5 hours of sleep, but it shouldn't be the norm if your child is a) talented enough to handle the work and b) pursuing ECs that they're genuinely passionate about and not overloading themselves needlessly.

So, I guess your kid cruised to all As of A+s for 4 years while handling several academic teams, volunteering, mentoring and researching and getting 8 hours of sleep each night?

I don't have kids.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the folks cheering because their kids got in without “prepping” (aka working for it) are going to feel when they discover that their kids are signed up for 90 hour workweeks? I suppose they will argue their kids should get a TJ degree based on their “innate talent”. And then will move on to college admissions by “innate talent,” etc.

I wonder at what point they will expect their kids to work hard at something?

Genuinely talented kids do not have 90 hour workweeks at TJ. They come home, probably do about 2 hours of homework each night, and take a chunk of one of the two weekend days (4-5 hours) to get stuff done/get ahead for the week.

These kids have the ability to succeed in diverse extracurricular pursuits (athletics/arts/creatives) above and beyond just STEM, and it's no accident that those are the kids who tend to get into elite colleges.

I am sorry if this bursts your bubble with respect to your own kid, but it's the truth.

+1000. You can draw a direct line between the kids who did extensive TJ prep and the kids who require a million hours to get through the TJ workload.

The primary reason for 4-5 hours of sleep is due to ECs such as band, orchestra, academic teams, volunteering, bigsib, research in addition to the usual homework, papers, presentations, tests, quizzes etc. Pp got it backwards.

Not if you have the time management skills and talent to handle it all. Sure, for every TJ student there will be the occasional night of 4-5 hours of sleep, but it shouldn't be the norm if your child is a) talented enough to handle the work and b) pursuing ECs that they're genuinely passionate about and not overloading themselves needlessly.

So, I guess your kid cruised to all As of A+s for 4 years while handling several academic teams, volunteering, mentoring and researching and getting 8 hours of sleep each night?

As long as I’ve known TJ, it has been a you pick two scenario: sleep, grades, something outside academics (ECs, friends). You can have two. You cannot have all three.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the folks cheering because their kids got in without “prepping” (aka working for it) are going to feel when they discover that their kids are signed up for 90 hour workweeks? I suppose they will argue their kids should get a TJ degree based on their “innate talent”. And then will move on to college admissions by “innate talent,” etc.

I wonder at what point they will expect their kids to work hard at something?

Genuinely talented kids do not have 90 hour workweeks at TJ. They come home, probably do about 2 hours of homework each night, and take a chunk of one of the two weekend days (4-5 hours) to get stuff done/get ahead for the week.

These kids have the ability to succeed in diverse extracurricular pursuits (athletics/arts/creatives) above and beyond just STEM, and it's no accident that those are the kids who tend to get into elite colleges.

I am sorry if this bursts your bubble with respect to your own kid, but it's the truth.

+1000. You can draw a direct line between the kids who did extensive TJ prep and the kids who require a million hours to get through the TJ workload.

The primary reason for 4-5 hours of sleep is due to ECs such as band, orchestra, academic teams, volunteering, bigsib, research in addition to the usual homework, papers, presentations, tests, quizzes etc. Pp got it backwards.

Not if you have the time management skills and talent to handle it all. Sure, for every TJ student there will be the occasional night of 4-5 hours of sleep, but it shouldn't be the norm if your child is a) talented enough to handle the work and b) pursuing ECs that they're genuinely passionate about and not overloading themselves needlessly.

So, I guess your kid cruised to all As of A+s for 4 years while handling several academic teams, volunteering, mentoring and researching and getting 8 hours of sleep each night?

I don't have kids.

Then why should anyone listen to you about how TJ kids manage their time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the folks cheering because their kids got in without “prepping” (aka working for it) are going to feel when they discover that their kids are signed up for 90 hour workweeks? I suppose they will argue their kids should get a TJ degree based on their “innate talent”. And then will move on to college admissions by “innate talent,” etc.

I wonder at what point they will expect their kids to work hard at something?

Genuinely talented kids do not have 90 hour workweeks at TJ. They come home, probably do about 2 hours of homework each night, and take a chunk of one of the two weekend days (4-5 hours) to get stuff done/get ahead for the week.

These kids have the ability to succeed in diverse extracurricular pursuits (athletics/arts/creatives) above and beyond just STEM, and it's no accident that those are the kids who tend to get into elite colleges.

I am sorry if this bursts your bubble with respect to your own kid, but it's the truth.

+1000. You can draw a direct line between the kids who did extensive TJ prep and the kids who require a million hours to get through the TJ workload.

My kids prep: took the practice test off the website.

My kid’s reality: some weeks leaving at 7am to commute and getting home from band or drama at 7:30-8:30 (with a parent off the grid 1-2 night a week to run the evening caropol) Eating and setting in at 9 for 3-4 hours of homework. Most weekends marching or doing drama at least one day. The other day on homework. When you add commute, plus school, plus ECs, plus homework, you get to 80-90 hours a week fast. Most weeks, my kids had 40 in class, plus 12 commuting, plus 20-25 hours of homework (3 a night, plus most of a weekend day) plus 12-30+ between marching band and drama. Until junior year, when the homework load increased significantly.

This was very much in line with most kids I knew. Except the kids in crew, who put in even more time. And before my kid accepted the offer, we sketched out what his day and week would look like.

It’s not 90 hours of homework a week. But each of your 7 junior classes will expect 3-4. Plus an longer school day. Plus commute time. Plus ECs being so time intensive because TJ kids are expected to be the best at everything. And that’s 90 hours.

Well sure, if you add the extracurricular stuff and the commute to the definition of the "work week" you can get there. I'll grant that. Based on what I hear from your narrative, it sounds like your kid had a fantastic experience that was a fair amount like mine.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the folks cheering because their kids got in without “prepping” (aka working for it) are going to feel when they discover that their kids are signed up for 90 hour workweeks? I suppose they will argue their kids should get a TJ degree based on their “innate talent”. And then will move on to college admissions by “innate talent,” etc.

I wonder at what point they will expect their kids to work hard at something?

Genuinely talented kids do not have 90 hour workweeks at TJ. They come home, probably do about 2 hours of homework each night, and take a chunk of one of the two weekend days (4-5 hours) to get stuff done/get ahead for the week.

These kids have the ability to succeed in diverse extracurricular pursuits (athletics/arts/creatives) above and beyond just STEM, and it's no accident that those are the kids who tend to get into elite colleges.

I am sorry if this bursts your bubble with respect to your own kid, but it's the truth.

+1000. You can draw a direct line between the kids who did extensive TJ prep and the kids who require a million hours to get through the TJ workload.

The primary reason for 4-5 hours of sleep is due to ECs such as band, orchestra, academic teams, volunteering, bigsib, research in addition to the usual homework, papers, presentations, tests, quizzes etc. Pp got it backwards.

Not if you have the time management skills and talent to handle it all. Sure, for every TJ student there will be the occasional night of 4-5 hours of sleep, but it shouldn't be the norm if your child is a) talented enough to handle the work and b) pursuing ECs that they're genuinely passionate about and not overloading themselves needlessly.

So, I guess your kid cruised to all As of A+s for 4 years while handling several academic teams, volunteering, mentoring and researching and getting 8 hours of sleep each night?

I don't have kids.

Then why should anyone listen to you about how TJ kids manage their time?

Because I went to TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how the folks cheering because their kids got in without “prepping” (aka working for it) are going to feel when they discover that their kids are signed up for 90 hour workweeks? I suppose they will argue their kids should get a TJ degree based on their “innate talent”. And then will move on to college admissions by “innate talent,” etc.

I wonder at what point they will expect their kids to work hard at something?

Genuinely talented kids do not have 90 hour workweeks at TJ. They come home, probably do about 2 hours of homework each night, and take a chunk of one of the two weekend days (4-5 hours) to get stuff done/get ahead for the week.

These kids have the ability to succeed in diverse extracurricular pursuits (athletics/arts/creatives) above and beyond just STEM, and it's no accident that those are the kids who tend to get into elite colleges.

I am sorry if this bursts your bubble with respect to your own kid, but it's the truth.

+1000. You can draw a direct line between the kids who did extensive TJ prep and the kids who require a million hours to get through the TJ workload.

The primary reason for 4-5 hours of sleep is due to ECs such as band, orchestra, academic teams, volunteering, bigsib, research in addition to the usual homework, papers, presentations, tests, quizzes etc. Pp got it backwards.

Not if you have the time management skills and talent to handle it all. Sure, for every TJ student there will be the occasional night of 4-5 hours of sleep, but it shouldn't be the norm if your child is a) talented enough to handle the work and b) pursuing ECs that they're genuinely passionate about and not overloading themselves needlessly.

So, I guess your kid cruised to all As of A+s for 4 years while handling several academic teams, volunteering, mentoring and researching and getting 8 hours of sleep each night?

I don't have kids.

Then why should anyone listen to you about how TJ kids manage their time?

Because I went to TJ.

+1000 owned. parents think they know about TJ

[Anonymous]

I am TJ student's parent. TJ teacher does not teach well. Only a few exceptions. Most of time students figure out things themselves.